View Full Version : Anyone fly BOS-BHB recently?


Lurker1999
Oct 17, 06, 9:41 pm
I have a flight coming up this week from BOS to BHB. Anyone fly this route recently? I think it's going to be on a Beechcraft 1900 from Colgan Air. Seatguru lists no overhead space or IFE. What size bag can you bring onto the plane? I assume a regulation sized carry-on will have to be gate checked.

Also anyone know how reliable this flight is? I'm flying back BHB-BOS-DCA and I absolutely need to get to DC that afternoon. I figure if I can at least make it back to BOS I can take any available flight to DC in the event there's a problem with the US BOS-DCA leg.

I skimmed through the old posts on FT about Beechcraft 1900. I'll bring some industrial earplugs for the flight so I can get some reading done on the plane (hopefully).

Travels2mch
Oct 17, 06, 10:44 pm
I have a flight coming up this week from BOS to BHB. Anyone fly this route recently? I think it's going to be on a Beechcraft 1900 from Colgan Air. Seatguru lists no overhead space or IFE. What size bag can you bring onto the plane? I assume a regulation sized carry-on will have to be gate checked.

Also anyone know how reliable this flight is? I'm flying back BHB-BOS-DCA and I absolutely need to get to DC that afternoon. I figure if I can at least make it back to BOS I can take any available flight to DC in the event there's a problem with the US BOS-DCA leg.

I skimmed through the old posts on FT about Beechcraft 1900. I'll bring some industrial earplugs for the flight so I can get some reading done on the plane (hopefully).
I can tell you about the Beech1900....it's a wicked little thing. No overheard, you have to bend over to walk down the aisle, and don't trip over the hump half way down. Single seats on each side, underseat barely has enough room for a computer bag, and that leaves little room for your legs. If you have a coat, nowhere to put it.

It's loud and many flights you get that 'washing machine' swaying going....like being in an amusement park. No F/A's, and no lav, so make sure you make a pit stop in the airport. One nice thing is they sometimes used to (not sure if they still do) leave the flight deck doors (if you can call them that) open and if your close to the front, you get a good view. Also, quick on and off, but you feel like a sardine when you get off.

Lurker1999
Oct 17, 06, 11:34 pm
Thanks for the warning about the Beechcraft. The no bathroom thing could have been interesting. It's only an hour's hop from BOS to BHB and even after you add in the commute to the airport and security screening time it's unfortunately faster and more expedient to fly than to drive 6 hours. Hopefully this isn't going to be too taxing a flight. I need to be well rested after I get off the plane..

violist
Oct 18, 06, 7:27 am
I've flown on the 1900 and agree with the description offered by
Travels2mch; and from what I recall, if it's an evening flight I
wouldn't count on getting much reading done. I must say though
that I like it better than a Jetstream.

Never taken the BOS-BHB but have occasionally seen
it listed as cancelled on the monitor when checking my own
flight. That's probably not what you wanted to hear ...

jfunk138
Oct 18, 06, 8:57 am
Based on my experience with puddle jumpers. If there is any weather at all in Boston that day, it will be cancelled. I'd say you have roughly a 30% chance of being completely cancelled. Another 30% that from beginning of your journey to DCA takes longer than the 6 hours it would take to drive. 40% you are there on time. I'm sure there are others that would put this number even lower.

murphy
Oct 18, 06, 9:29 am
Based on my experience with puddle jumpers. If there is any weather at all in Boston that day, it will be cancelled. I'd say you have roughly a 30% chance of being completely cancelled. Another 30% that from beginning of your journey to DCA takes longer than the 6 hours it would take to drive. 40% you are there on time. I'm sure there are others that would put this number even lower.
30% chance of cancellation? 40% chance of ontime? C'mon. According to flightstats.com, from Aug 01, 2006 through Sep 30, 2006 the stats are:
BHB - BOS Operated: 220 Ontime: 71% Avg Delay: 20 Max Delay: 240 Cancelled: 0
BOS - BHB Operated: 246 Ontime: 79% Avg Delay: 35 Max Delay: 153 Cancelled: 0

CHOwahoo
Oct 18, 06, 10:11 am
IFE on a Beech 1900!! That gave me a good laugh. The only IFE you'll get is the co-pilot giving the safety speal at the beginning and maybe some entertainment from your fellow pax if it's a bumpy ride.

Lurker1999
Oct 18, 06, 10:40 am
Hey I travel with my own IFE usually: Treo + Shure e4cs.

Thanks for the reminder about flightstatus.com. I don't care if the BOS-BHB flight is late but I have only 2 hours to make my connection in BOS going back BHB-BOS-DCA. Let's just hope I don't hit one of those max delay times..

Travlnman1
Oct 18, 06, 11:12 am
I can tell you about the Beech1900....it's a wicked little thing. No overheard, you have to bend over to walk down the aisle, and don't trip over the hump half way down. Single seats on each side, underseat barely has enough room for a computer bag, and that leaves little room for your legs. If you have a coat, nowhere to put it.

It's loud and many flights you get that 'washing machine' swaying going....like being in an amusement park. No F/A's, and no lav, so make sure you make a pit stop in the airport. One nice thing is they sometimes used to (not sure if they still do) leave the flight deck doors (if you can call them that) open and if your close to the front, you get a good view. Also, quick on and off, but you feel like a sardine when you get off.


Travels2mch has nailed everything on the head.
I have flown this route many times.
Love flying into BHB.
The problems I encouter on this route usually have more to do with BOS than Colgan and BHB.

Lurker1999
Oct 20, 06, 3:00 pm
Well flying out to BHB was rather unremarkable. A pair of Shure e4cs or any good pair of earplugs will allow you to get quite a bit of work done since it effectively drowns out most of the turboprop noise. I will need to bring a headlamp of some kind next time though since the reading light is essentially useless. No problems with the rain today. Let's hope flying back will be just as unremarkable.

jfunk138
Nov 27, 06, 1:36 pm
I have to wonder about the data from flightstats.com. Flightaware.com doesn't even show Colgan 4965 going on November 16th, indicating a cancellation, yet flightstats.com still shows 0 cancellations for this period of time.

CHOwahoo
Nov 27, 06, 2:46 pm
:mad: I have to wonder about the data from flightstats.com. Flightaware.com doesn't even show Colgan 4965 going on November 16th, indicating a cancellation, yet flightstats.com still shows 0 cancellations for this period of time.
If there's a route in the US system operated by Colgan that hasn't suffered a cancellation this year, I'd be surprised. It's showing 72% ontime for the Colgan route operated between CHO and LGA, which might be accurate given a loose interpretation of "on time." It's also showing a 0% cancellation rate, which I know to be false since I was forced to fly standby CHO-CLT-EWR during the measurement period when one of the Colgan flights was cancelled due to mechanical difficulties. My experience over the last 5-6 years has been that Colgan regularly cancels flights on B1900s and Saab 340s, and not infrequently on the CHO-LGA route.
It also states that Flt 4848 has an ontime rate of 47%???? That's odd since last night's 3hr 10min delay ought to be just a bit above average for this route, not 3x the average given by Flightstats.


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