Any info on where I can and can't fly. Prettyy much got the info on how we fly, but not where. I was looking to visit family in Tokyo, but I'm not sure US Airlies there. Any info or redirection to right place of this this thread would be appreciated.

I'm by no means an expert on US, but I imagine a visit to usairways.com is in order. In particular, this nifty page I found after about 5 seconds of searching:

http://www.usairways.com/awa/content/aboutus/pressroom/routemap.aspx

Happy travels.

Any info on where I can and can't fly. Prettyy much got the info on how we fly, but not where. I was looking to visit family in Tokyo, but I'm not sure US Airlies there. Any info or redirection to right place of this this thread would be appreciated.


You can also fly other airlines at a reduced rate so if USAIR doesnot go to Tokyo, you could fly NWA or other airlines that have that routing. Your wife will have to get the information from her job as to the cost to fly on the other airlines. :cool:

I'll move this to the US Air forum for further discussion. Ocn Vw 1K, Co-Mod, TBuzz.

You can also fly other airlines at a reduced rate so if USAIR doesnot go to Tokyo, you could fly NWA or other airlines that have that routing. Your wife will have to get the information from her job as to the cost to fly on the other airlines. :cool:

Industry generally offers employee fares called ID75 and ID90 fares. Essentially, they represent fares that are 75% and 90% off, respectively, full Y fares. All in all, a great deal.

It all depends on what contracts each airline has in place with the other. With a little checking around, your wife will quickly understand how it all works.

Most employee travel off line is done by ZED fares now, meaning that the distance travelled dictates the fare charged. Zone 1 might be up to 250 miles, Zone 2 might be up to 500 miles, etc.
I would have to look up the exact mileage, but that gives you an idea of how it works. The distance to Tokyo is obviously very far so you would be in the highest ticket zone I'm sure. ZED fares are based on the highest Y ticket sold, so most of the time it's actually cheaper to find a cheapie ticket to get a better price and to be guaranteed a seat. Remember, all ZED fares and tickets are space available, and as an employee of a different airline from the one you are travelling on you will be placed at the bottom of the boarding list.
When you travel on US (on the east side) your wife's seniority will dictate where you fall on the list of standbys; if she was hired on the west side, they still board first come-first served instead of company seniority.
What kind of job did your wife get, and where will she be working?

Any info on where I can and can't fly. Prettyy much got the info on how we fly, but not where. I was looking to visit family in Tokyo, but I'm not sure US Airlies there. Any info or redirection to right place of this this thread would be appreciated.

US does not fly their own metal to Tokyo. They have a codeshare with UA and UA has several flights there.

Customer service in Philadelphia. What is codeshare with UA?

Customer service in Philadelphia. What is codeshare with UA?

USAirways offers some flights in conjunction with other carriers (in this case, United) that are flown by, say, United to Tokyo. However, it is possible to book this flight under a USAirways flight number as a paying passenger.

Lots of airlines do this code-sharing business and it essentially extends their marketing efforts to offer service to all sorts of places they don't actually fly with their own planes. In a similar fashion, many USAirways flights operate as United code share flights, too. USAirways offers a much greater presence in the Caribbean market than United does, but by offering their flights to United for code-sharing, both carriers benefit as do their passengers.

Does that make any sense?

In any case (and perhaps GalleyWench or other current US employees can comment here), I do NOT think that United code-share flights are offered to USAirways employees as "company travel" flights. In other words, she may be able to get a tremendous discount on this flight (operated by United or anyone else), but it won't be considered a USAir benefit flight. (i.e. it's not going to be $50...)

Thanks for the info and any more that will be coming.

My suggestion is to find more information from US Airways Pass Bureau - they may have an intranet site where you can access both interline and zonal agreement information.

I am brand new to this and appreciate all help. What is the pass bureau?

UAL does not participate in the ZED (zonal employee discount) fares, but I believe they are either an ID75 or ID90 which means that you pay either 25% or 10% of the highest Y fare per segment. For example, if you want to fly between IAD and LAS and the highest one way Y fare is $1000, for an ID75 the fare would be $250 and for an ID90 the fare would be $100 one way. This is a space available fare and you would only clear after all of the full fare standbys and all UAL employee stand bys have cleared. If it's an ID75 at $250 one way (or $500 round trip) it would make more sense to watch the fares and buy a cheap regular ticket and be guaranteed a seat.
Another consideration is that for most interline agreements, you must be employed at least 6 months to a year before you can get a pass on another carrier, each one varies.
You can find all of the interline agreements on the HUB, an employee only website that your wife should get access to once she is fully employed. Good luck to her in her new job! :)

Customer service in Philadelphia. What is codeshare with UA?

Customer service in Philadelphia????????

Isn't that an oxymoron?

Any more info?

Any more info?
Flight benifits kick in over time. On US it is after two weeks (used to be 90 days) on SWA and some other it is after 6 months. Most OALs (That's other airlines) it is after one year of service. Her folks (if still living, if not yours) get bennies also!

Once your wife starts work, she'll be able to access "theHub" - the employee web site for the East (original US) side. There you will find all the travel info concerning the ZED (Zonal Employee Discount) fares and the carriers we have ZED agreements with. As Warbo said, the industry seems to be slowly replacing the old ID90/ID75 interline pricing with this.

For carriers that we don't yet have a ZED agreement with, the ID90/ID75 is still available. As Warbo said, however, if you can plan ahead you can find a low regular fare for about the same price - often for less when the ID75 is all that's available from another carrier. The info on this is available from the pass bureau or one of your wife's co-workers can show her how to access it through Sabre.

Given some time, you'll become expert at traveling on off days or off seasons, spending unplanned nights when things go awry, etc. But taken in the right spirit - it's space available travel, afterall - you and your wife can have great adventures.

Jim

Once your wife starts work, she'll be able to access "theHub" - the employee web site for the East (original US) side. There you will find all the travel info concerning the ZED (Zonal Employee Discount) fares and the carriers we have ZED agreements with. As Warbo said, the industry seems to be slowly replacing the old ID90/ID75 interline pricing with this.

For carriers that we don't yet have a ZED agreement with, the ID90/ID75 is still available. As Warbo said, however, if you can plan ahead you can find a low regular fare for about the same price - often for less when the ID75 is all that's available from another carrier. The info on this is available from the pass bureau or one of your wife's co-workers can show her how to access it through Sabre.

Given some time, you'll become expert at traveling on off days or off seasons, spending unplanned nights when things go awry, etc. But taken in the right spirit - it's space available travel, afterall - you and your wife can have great adventures.

Jim

Warbo?! ;)

Oops - sorry GW. The old memory isn't as good as it once was...... :o Can I blame it on trying to catch up on 4 days of posts in one sitting???? :eek:

Jim

Once your wife has been at US long enough, you can fly stand-by (called "space available") on most other major carriers world-wide. US needs to have a mutual agreement with them, and US (East at least) used to have them with all of the larger carriers (but not all). Usually, the requirement is that for ZED or ID travel, the employee must have been with US for either 3 months, 6 months, or 1 year (depends on the agreement with the other carrier).

As a rule of thumb, ZED = good = cheap, while ID = bad = expensive. United, for example, has an ID95 agreement with US, meaning that you pay 5% of the full Y fare. However, those full Y fares, which few few few people buy, are very high, very close to the business fares. If you can get on, say AA, with which US has a ZED agreement, AA will be much cheaper.

When you want to fly, you need to buy the ZED or ID ticket from a US ticket counter or ticket office, and pay all applicable taxes (which can also be high - for example, around $70 for MEX). Then you need to follow the instructions for the carrier you want to fly, and create a listing for whoever is flying ("non-revenue passengers"). Those instructions will be listed on The Hub, and in most cases it is just a call to their 800 number. Others, though, like LH, have a ZED website that you list through.

Then there are travel embargos, imposed by the different airlines on non-revenue passengers. So, for example, getting anywhere to Latin America on say Christmas is most likely not possible. US will have embargos for its own employees as well, be it no checked luggage allowed, or outright no non-reving to XYZ on specific dates.

Hope this helps, and happy non-reving!!!

Customer service in Philadelphia????????

Isn't that an oxymoron?


OMG....THAT's funny!! :D

How to the ZED rates compare to say an ID75 or ID90?

Also say someone works for US, are they able to upgrade to business or first class on other airlines when traveling under either ZED or an ID75/ID90? E.g. if I were a US employee, could I fly space avail in intl biz or first class on say LH or BA or UA?

If upgrading is officially not allowed, is it a common thing to have happen at the gate unoficially as a professional courtesy?

If upgrading is officially not allowed, is it a common thing to have happen at the gate unoficially as a professional courtesy?


This is the ultimate YMMV scenario. Even employees of an airline flying on their own airline never know what the GA will ultimately do even when there are open seats in F/J. Even moreso when flying on a carrier that's not your employer. Others may comment here, but I know this is a crapshoot most anyplace. You never count on it and you may get lucky from time to time.

In instances where the GA has not opted to upgrade the non-revving employees when there is still space available (and I'm really talking about long haul internatl here), I've seen most flight attendants move the party up to F/J as soon as the cabin doors are closed. This, however, is not always the case.