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TVCMH
Jul 8, 06, 10:40 am
A letter to the management of the NEW USAirways:

I remember a routine from a few years ago where a comedian suggested that nothing could be "new AND improved." If it's truly new then there's no foundation on which to improve. I'd suggest that in the case of the NEW USAirways he's right -- it may be NEW but it's certainly not an improvement over the OLD USAirways.

As a top-tier Chairman's Preferred dividend miles member (or occasionally a "platinum," depending on the America West boarding pass machine's mood) I have encountered a series of frustrations that have me questioning if the NEW USAirways is the right place for this high-yield business traveler. Here, in no particular order, are ten things that need to change if the NEW USAirways wants to keep me as an OLD USAirways customer:

1) NEW boarding procedures at my home airport. The NEW USAirways has four gates at CMH: one for America West operated flights and three for US and US Express flights. Problem is the three NEW USAirways gates are accessed by a single door in the terminal. Although the OLD USAirways ground staff at CMH continues to do a very respectable job at managing this I'd like to know how they're supposed to board a 5:30 to CLT, 5:45 to LGA and 5:50 to PHL through a single door without delays or mass confusion.

2) NEW on-board infomercial, or better yet NO on-board infomercial. Most domestic carriers have some sort of video spiel that includes a preview of their in-flight movie and maybe a Skymall plug, but on my most recent NEW USAirways flight we were forty minutes past wheels-up by the time the pitches for in flight cafe, credit cards, trips to Jamaica, movie previews, a rundown of the Star Alliance benefits and other gratuitous self promotion were complete. The videos were spaced out by a couple minutes of silence, but consider this: on a four segment itinerary I'm subjected to over an hour of NEW USAirways plugs both on the screen and over the PA. With overuse like that is it really any wonder that we're conditioned to ignore the safety announcements?

3) NEW branding and airport signage until things are worked out. The NEW USAirways "umbrella branding" is confusing and misleading for most travelers. I personally understand that the NEW USAirways is really just the OLD USAirways plus the OLD America West. But to a novice flyer it doesn't make sense that there is a separate bank of NEW USAirways kiosks for flights to PHX and LAS and that a gate agent with a NEW USAirways name badge standing in front of a NEW USAirways computer can't help them with their NEW USAirways reservation since it's really an OLD USAirways reservation. How about at least some separation in the branding until the NEW USAirways is really a single entity?

4) NEW updates to the OLD computers to make them recognize status from both carriers. The NEW USAirways offers unlimited upgrades to their OLD USAirways and OLD America West elites. Problem is, the upgrades rarely, if ever, work 100% correctly when crossing between OLD carriers. Case in point: my last trip on OLD America West where only the first three segments upgraded even though the fourth "should have" according to a CP agent and the OLD America West gate agent. This is not the first time an OLD America West gate agent stated that my upgrade "should have cleared, there are a lot of silvers up front." I don't get upset - I paid Y and I'll fly Y, but I don't get the chance to fly mainline much so every time my upgrade doesn't clear because of a computer malfunction it significantly devalues my status. If silvers who the computers recognize are upgraded over CP's who the computers "don't see" then silver becomes more valuable for that particular flight.

5) NEW thinking on the F seating plans. NEW A321 F seating plans and current OLD USAirways 757 F seating configs are an insult. Take a single F seat out of an A321 and you'll essentially be removing me along with it. Also, as long as you're replacing OLD mainline routes with NEW higher-capacity RJ's consider that United Express and Delta Connection fly the same E170 that the NEW USAirways does but with a first class cabin.

6) NEW cabin updates on aging planes. NEW USAirways planes have really, really OLD USAirways interiors. The money crunch isn't as ominous as it was a few years ago... spend a few bucks on the 767's and older 737's and make it at least seem like we're flying a NEWer plane that's seen the inside maintenance hanger in the last ten years.

7) NEW "GO" programs. The GoFirst, GoEnvoy and GoEnvoySleeper programs can all go NEW themselves. The Sleeper seat benefit was one of the extremely lucrative benefits of Trans Atlantic travel for CP's. Kind of like a pacifier persuading me to overlook some of the shortcomings of the OLD USAirways program. If you charge $300 on top of my Envoy fare then you're creating a third class of seating on the plane, and I expect service consistent with other three-cabin international airlines. As far as GoUpgrades: It hasn't happened to me yet, but if a once-a-year tourist bumps me off the F waitlist for $50 you'll see a NEW CP benefit called GoToContinentalTicketCounter.

8) NEW full fare purchase rules. NEW Y fares don't qualify for bonus miles.... Why? Thanks to the NEW USAirways' use of the OLD Amercia West CRJ900 we're stuck with more regional aircraft than ever in CMH. When I buy a last minute Y fare to CLT that prices out at over $1/mile I'm earning the same EQM as when I buy ticket to PHL three weeks out that is priced at under $100 r/t to compete with WN. I'd buy F if I could, but if I got moved up any further on the RJ flight to CLT I'd have to fly the plane. Reward me for paying more.

9) NEW customer service standards. Innovative tip for NEW management: respond to OLD customers. You're in the middle of a confusing and slow-moving merger that isn't exactly the envy of the airline passenger world. At the very least, have the courtesy to write back to us on occasion or even (gasp) consider taking your NEW feedback and implementing changes based on it. Maybe it's my fault for suggesting you not write back unless you had something more than a form letter to reply with, but still -- a customary acknowledgment that the postal service is functional would be a nice gesture to a guy who's spent almost $15,000 with his "backup" carrier YTD.

10) NEW USAirways.com improvements... Simple, user-friendly changes would keep me from clogging up the CP phone lines with routine requests every time my corporate agency books a reservation for me. I can choose a seat and enter my DM number during online checkin, so why not before?

Give me some NEW reasons to "fly with US" or I'll continue to fly with "them" more often.

LAX1K to AmWest
Jul 8, 06, 10:53 am
A letter to the management of the NEW USAirways:

I remember a routine from a few years ago where a comedian suggested that nothing could be "new AND improved." If it's truly new then there's no foundation on which to improve. I'd suggest that in the case of the NEW USAirways he's right -- it may be NEW but it's certainly not an improvement over the OLD USAirways.

As a top-tier Chairman's Preferred dividend miles member (or occasionally a "platinum," depending on the America West boarding pass machine's mood) I have encountered a series of frustrations that have me questioning if the NEW USAirways is the right place for this high-yield business traveler. Here, in no particular order, are ten things that need to change if the NEW USAirways wants to keep me as an OLD USAirways customer:

1) NEW boarding procedures at my home airport. ....

2) NEW on-board infomercial, or better yet NO on-board infomercial. ....

3) NEW branding and airport signage until things are worked out. ....

4) NEW updates to the OLD computers to make them recognize status from both carriers. ....
5) NEW thinking on the F seating plans. ....
6) NEW cabin updates on aging planes. ....

7) NEW "GO" programs. ....
8) NEW full fare purchase rules. ...

9) NEW customer service standards. ...

10) NEW USAirways.com improvements...

Give me some NEW reasons to "fly with US" or I'll continue to fly with "them" more often.

I really agree with you on your 10 rants!!! For the branding, If US Airways was smart, they would have stated US Airways and America West are part of the new US Airways family... etc..

Or even, change the name America West to US Airways WEST until the carriers are merged. Then it is like having a US Airways EXpress flight.. you would have a US Airways West flight.. then people would know it is different, and then you remove the WEST when you merge the certificates. I am awestruck that there is not a creative person in Tempe who understands the customer experience.... I guess they could never use the AA commerical "We know why you fly..." :(

mikey110890
Jul 8, 06, 10:58 am
Give me some NEW reasons to "fly with US" or I'll continue to fly with "them" more often.

Just make this the list of reasons that US Air does not really want your business. If its gets your business it is a bonus to them. Sorry to say we are not targeted.

Royiv
Jul 8, 06, 5:55 pm
I agree with everything you said. There have been a lot of times recently that I wished I didn't live in a hub (PHX) and was essentially held hostage by US if I want a choice of non-stops. Granted, I could always switch some of my business over to WN, but Rapid Rewards is totally useless in my opinion. I see some improvements here and there (F catering improvements, for example), but those are negated by bone-headed decisions like ripping F class seats out of the A321 and taking away the Row 1 benefit on the A330 for CP's.

deschutespc
Jul 8, 06, 8:00 pm
Hey I agree with every one of your ten. But, there is an eleventh. How about deciding at what window no capacity controls will be applied to upgrades and then process all upgrades at that instant based on status? Have it just be 24 hours and don't lie to CP's about 7 days. The gate game is demeaning. I now fly US almost never just because of that.

US @ DEN
Jul 8, 06, 8:54 pm
Branding? I just pulled up the website tonight and it now is titled US Airways / America West Airlines. I have not seen that since the new site was launched. Maybe they are taking a step back? Anyone else have thoughts?

me4yankees
Jul 8, 06, 10:37 pm
Perhaps those who do not fly frequently are not aware of the merger and are confused when they type in HP and get US, so they added both so people would know they are at the correct site?

flyastrojets
Jul 9, 06, 8:16 am
Branding? I just pulled up the website tonight and it now is titled US Airways / America West Airlines. I have not seen that since the new site was launched. Maybe they are taking a step back? Anyone else have thoughts?

I saw that and wondered if I'd just been missing it the whole time. Glad to see it wasn't just me.

swanscn
Jul 9, 06, 2:58 pm
I have been a CP since CP started but am glad to say that will end this year. ALso I have even been a advisory board memeber in the past (that seems to have gone away), and I agree with everything you stated.

I will only add 2 more since I think it will help US if they do theses things.

a) The face of the airline (the web) is a joke. It is hard to use and does not work well or sometimes at all. I am not refferencing last month when PHL was not served by US I am refering to today.

b) Also web related make check in easier, if I put in my DM number dont you know my name so why do I need to enter my name on another screen.

While my flying enough to make CP is a good thing for me, the way things are turning I will not do a milage run to make up the difference.

sdlevi27
Jul 9, 06, 5:02 pm
I saw that and wondered if I'd just been missing it the whole time. Glad to see it wasn't just me.

My guess is this has to do with Internet search engine results rather than something cosmetic. The previous window title was something like "cheap tickets" which was obviously designed to pick up hits on search egnines.

shuttle_boy
Jul 10, 06, 12:49 am
I have been a CP since CP started but am glad to say that will end this year. ALso I have even been a advisory board memeber in the past (that seems to have gone away), and I agree with everything you stated.

I will only add 2 more since I think it will help US if they do theses things.

a) The face of the airline (the web) is a joke. It is hard to use and does not work well or sometimes at all. I am not refferencing last month when PHL was not served by US I am refering to today.

b) Also web related make check in easier, if I put in my DM number dont you know my name so why do I need to enter my name on another screen.

While my flying enough to make CP is a good thing for me, the way things are turning I will not do a milage run to make up the difference.

Big problem buying tickets on the web..self service check-in does not work. Agent was not able to print non electronic ticket even though I explained the problem (ticket on AZ stock because I purchased on the new website :mad: )

Reductions in DM benefits, pardon your BS...no :td:

LAX1K to AmWest
Jul 10, 06, 1:05 am
Big problem buying tickets on the web..self service check-in does not work. Agent was not able to print non electronic ticket even though I explained the problem (ticket on AZ stock because I purchased on the new website :mad: )

Reductions in DM benefits, pardon your BS...no :td:


I despise the website. It does not do what it is suppose to, has not error checking or ability to check if a feature should be active...

For example, WebCheckin icon next to your reservations in the list, NEVER works for me. I do not know what it is really suppose to do, but it does not do it. It should just let you check in ...

Also, buying or checking in, seat assignments are not working consistently.... get the dreaded **, ** as seat assignments, then it won't let me pick seats on the seat map.. then I get the "This part of the web-site is temporary unavailable"...

AWFUL, JUNK, AMATEUR!!

goheelswks
Jul 10, 06, 9:08 am
8) NEW full fare purchase rules. NEW Y fares don't qualify for bonus miles.... Why? Thanks to the NEW USAirways' use of the OLD Amercia West CRJ900 we're stuck with more regional aircraft than ever in CMH. When I buy a last minute Y fare to CLT that prices out at over $1/mile I'm earning the same EQM as when I buy ticket to PHL three weeks out that is priced at under $100 r/t to compete with WN. I'd buy F if I could, but if I got moved up any further on the RJ flight to CLT I'd have to fly the plane. Reward me for paying more.

I just don't understand why they killed bonus miles. AT LEAST give status-only bonuses if you don't want to shell out the actual miles. Reward the schmegs paying $1000+ for RJ flights out of hubs and feeder cities.

Or, I guess I should be buying that ticket from DL, where I DO get that bonus.

SS255
Jul 10, 06, 10:47 am
I just don't understand why they killed bonus miles. AT LEAST give status-only bonuses if you don't want to shell out the actual miles.

I think they should give us bonus miles just for *trying* to use the website! :D

etch5895
Jul 10, 06, 11:39 am
I just don't understand why they killed bonus miles. AT LEAST give status-only bonuses if you don't want to shell out the actual miles. Reward the schmegs paying $1000+ for RJ flights out of hubs and feeder cities.

Or, I guess I should be buying that ticket from DL, where I DO get that bonus.

I've gotten my bonus miles, but they don't show up on the entry screen. I've found them when you click on the history and look that way. I'm not sure why they don't show it on the entry screen, but they havn't missed posting mine yet.

Hope this wasn't too confusing to read.

dingo
Jul 10, 06, 1:08 pm
I honestly think we're all going to have to live with what we have got for right now. The decision makers at the airline have to feel like they can do no wrong...that they can devalue and diminish and we will love them just the same. Planes are full...jam packed. Fares are going up. Planes are still full. Award seats are darned near impssible to find. Planes are still full.

I rode up front on United about 10 days ago after US stretched a 6 hour travel day into around 20 for me due to...well everything. Whether the product is better or not I can't really say because it was a short haul. The seats though, are certainly better than those filthy leather ones on US.

But the planes are still full.

PhillyPhlyer40
Jul 10, 06, 2:44 pm
Add one on for me....BRING BACK MEALS! I am so tired of flying PHL-MIA with nothing but chips...great breakfast dougie p! Oh well, I shouldnt complain, I DO get meals, on my new airlines of choice...CO/NW.

murphy
Jul 10, 06, 4:18 pm
Add one on for me....BRING BACK MEALS! I am so tired of flying PHL-MIA with nothing but chips...great breakfast dougie p! Oh well, I shouldnt complain, I DO get meals, on my new airlines of choice...CO/NW.
I think you've mentioned that before ... in 24 of your last 25 posts. Maybe we can create a sticky where ex-US folks can post their hatred of US and love for a new airline over and over.

murphy
Jul 10, 06, 9:25 pm
What did I admit to? Being "the most negative guy on here"? What does that even mean? This is the US Airways board. It's purpose is not to "steer people to the best airlines", it's to discuss US Airways.

And no, it's really not cool to post the same thing 24 times.

SOBE ER DOC
Jul 10, 06, 9:43 pm
Out of curiosity...how can you be on the US board and NOT be negative? The other airlines giveth and US taketh away.

Besides, mama used to always say "If you can't say something nice, come sit next to me." :D

DC-USCP-UAPE
Jul 11, 06, 6:08 pm
I agree. This merger is awful. In DCA and TPA I've noticed that they have the HP and US check-in stations next to each other - that's a plus. However (and I assume it is due to when the flights leave), the times I've been there HP reps are doing nothing and the US line is across the concourse. What's up with that? When are they going to cross train on each other's computer systems (aren't they one now)? Even if they aren't cross training, how about the HP reps at least pulling baggage tags for the self check-in people freeing up the few US people left to deal with ticketing issues....

Tough to 'pardon the dust' if they can't even harvest the low hanging fruit...

GotCalcio4
Jul 11, 06, 10:44 pm
Out of curiosity...how can you be on the US board and NOT be negative? The other airlines giveth and US taketh away.

Besides, mama used to always say "If you can't say something nice, come sit next to me." :D


So true. PhillyPhlyer certainly has a right to complain. No meals on these 2.5+ hour northeast-Florida trips is ridiculous!!


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