Does anyone have suggestions for finding a minyan to say kaddish -- specifically, in one or more of the following places:

YVR airport (afternoon (3-6p) layover)
LHR airport (midday (1100-1400) layover)
FCO airport (late afternoon (17h30) arrival)
Rome
Florence
Venice

I know about www.godaven.com, but was hoping the board might have other resources. (I would gladly accept leads to non-orthodox minyanim.)

Thanks!

A friend of mine had this problem on arrival at FLL.

He went to the baggage claim area and just started asking people if they were Jewish. He told people that he needed to say kaddish. There's a certain crowd that this appeal will hit a nerve with. He had a minyan in about 10 minutes.

Weaing a keepa might aid your situation.

I guess you could do this anywhere.

He went to the baggage claim area and just started asking people if they were Jewish. He told people that he needed to say kaddish. There's a certain crowd that this appeal will hit a nerve with. He had a minyan in about 10 minutes.
If I wasn't in a mad rush (which I normally am at the airport), I would stop and help if asked this question.

Lewis

PS from the other point of view, if I needed to say Kaddish at the airport, I'd hope others would help me.

Thanks, both of you -- but if I'd guess, I'd say that FLL is much more fertile ground than FCO, YVR or LHR...

Thanks, both of you -- but if I'd guess, I'd say that FLL is much more fertile ground than FCO, YVR or LHR...
LHR is my "Local". You will have absolutely no problems whatsoever finding a Minyan. In fact it should be very easy as there's always lots of people with Kippas on. Especially if you're flying from T4 around the times of the BA flights to TLV or T1 around the times of the ElAl flights.

Lewis

I confess that you are using a vocabulary that I don't understand, and intrigues me. What is a minyan? kaddish? Are there specific times of day for this? a certain frequency?

I confess that you are using a vocabulary that I don't understand, and intrigues me. What is a minyan? kaddish? Are there specific times of day for this? a certain frequency?
"Minyan" is a quoram of ten Jews over the age of 13 who pray together. While one can pray alone there are certain prayers that can only be said with a Minyan
One of these is the "Kaddish" which is a prayer recited in memory of a deceased family member (father or mother ) for a period of 11 months after death and then yearly on the "Yartzeit" or anniversary. There are many others but we won't go into them
Prayers and Kaddish are said three times daily. "Shacharit" or morning prayers from sunrise until a little before miday, "Mincha" afternoon prayers from midday to sunset and "Ma'ariv" evening prayers from a little after sunset till sunrise
During the mourning period one tries to make every effort to pray in a minyan, even more so then regularly, hence the request of the OP and the various websites which list minyan locations and times throughout the world
Hope this helps

badatz, thank you for such a clear and helpful explanation. Now I understand.

Many synagogues have trouble getting a minyan. This can be a problem for someone that needs to say kadish.

Sometimes I'll attend minyan just so that my shul can get 10 people (a minyan).
My shul, with 800 families, and it's hard to get 10 some evenings. :eek:

The orthodox insist on 10 men. Many Conservative shuls will also count woman in the minyan.
(This is a 'hot' topic in some circles).

This board is a continuing education. Thank you for sharing.

Many synagogues have trouble getting a minyan. This can be a problem for someone that needs to say kadish.

Sometimes I'll attend minyan just so that my shul can get 10 people (a minyan).
My shul, with 800 families, and it's hard to get 10 some evenings. :eek:

The orthodox insist on 10 men. Many Conservative shuls will also count woman in the minyan.
(This is a 'hot' topic in some circles).

DHammer - on behalf of those of us who need a minyan, to all those of you who DON'T need to be there but show up anyway: thanks!

One correction, though: now, virtually every Conservative synagogue in the US counts women equally toward a minyan. Canada & Latin America are still more split on this. Israeli "masorti" synagogues (the Hebrew word for "traditional", which is the name for what we in N.Am call "conservative" Judaism) tend to be egalitarian; Europe is more divided.

so if you read it like this:

"Shacharit" or morning prayers from sunrise until a little before miday, "Mincha" afternoon prayers from midday to sunset and "Ma'ariv" evening prayers from a little after sunset till sunrise"

are the religious jews all davening all day??

when do you fit in meals? and with all the bruchas before and after.......

and do you ask people on the plane to get a group together to bentch????

Rome

no idea re airports but in Rome, the Tempio dei Giovanni on the Tiber Island is a beautiful but hard to find little orthodox synagogue on the third floor of the hospital there. ppl are v friendly.

on shabbat, look for the police car parked in the square. not sure if they have a daily (or even thrice daily) minyan...

and don't forget to go to the excellent taverna del ghetto kosher meat restaurant nr the main synagogue...

so if you read it like this:

"Shacharit" or morning prayers from sunrise until a little before miday, "Mincha" afternoon prayers from midday to sunset and "Ma'ariv" evening prayers from a little after sunset till sunrise"

are the religious jews all davening all day??

when do you fit in meals? and with all the bruchas before and after.......

and do you ask people on the plane to get a group together to bentch????
The periods of time are those that the prayers must be said in
The actual prayer times are approximately:
Shacharit 30-45 minutes
Mincha and Maariv 10 minutes each
So there is plenty of time for other tings

Come to think of it never saw people getting a group together on a plane to bentch (grace after meals) but just came back this moring on LY028 and they definately had a minyan for all three prayers

I have a freind that was traveling from JFK to LHR and needed a minyan for maariv, he asked the flight atendants that he needed a place to pray, he would need 3 people, and it would take just over three minutes. So they allowed him to use the galley.
When the minyan ended, the flight antendant told him, you told me there would be three people, but ther ewere 10, and you told me that it would take 3 minutes, but it actualy took 15.
So he answered, he asked three people to come, but all the other jews on the plane wanted to join in. So the bigger the crowd, the longer it takes.

Now i would like ot aske a question of my own.
How does one daven shacharis on the plane?
I have made the trip LHR-SYD a number of times, and you take of London at night, and you arrive in singapore the next night, so you have no choice, but daven on the plane.
When i asked the stewerdess, if i could use thet galley for 15 minutes to pray, they said i could not, but when i got up to go to the back of the plane, with my teffilin, i was told i would not be able to stand, but sit down.
I did just that, but i felt rather weired, sitting for Shmoneh Esrei, and i had this guy looking at me,like i had fell from mars, or something.

The next question is, when od you know when you have to daven mincha, like in the above situation, but you dont have the current time, or you are not sure if it is past Mincha Gedolah yet.

By the way, i was in Milan Airport on my way to Eretz Yisroel, we had a minyan (about 50 people all together), for Maariv, it was the most beautiful site, i had een in my whole life (before i had the oportunity to go to the Kosel), to see, Chassidim, Misnagdim, Ashkenazim, and sefardim, all devening together, in an airport terminal!

By the way, i was in Milan Airport on my way to Eretz Yisroel, we had a minyan (about 50 people all together), for Maariv, it was the most beautiful site, i had een in my whole life (before i had the oportunity to go to the Kosel), to see, Chassidim, Misnagdim, Ashkenazim, and sefardim, all devening together, in an airport terminal!

Last year, I flew out of Rome during Hannuka. When the sun went down, a group of young people lit their hannukia in the departures area, said the prayers, and started singing holiday songs. ^

Last year, I flew out of Rome during Hannuka. When the sun went down, a group of young people lit their hannukia in the departures area, said the prayers, and started singing holiday songs. ^
I am supprised they allowed the menorah to be lit in the airport.
My uncle was in EWR over chanukah, and treid lighting his Menorah, but he was stopped by airport security, conversly, i once arrived in EWR on the last day of chanukah, and in the arrivels lounge, there was a big Menorah with a sign on it "Chabad of NJ wishes you a happy Chanukah".
It was very warm welcoming in a the east Coast winter

I am supprised they allowed the menorah to be lit in the airport.

It was in a section of the departure area which was used only by El Al (at least when El Al was flying out) and all the people working there were on LY's payroll.

I think that played a big part in allowing it.

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Now i would like ot aske a question of my own.
How does one daven shacharis on the plane?
I have made the trip LHR-SYD a number of times, and you take of London at night, and you arrive in singapore the next night, so you have no choice, but daven on the plane.
When i asked the stewerdess, if i could use thet galley for 15 minutes to pray, they said i could not, but when i got up to go to the back of the plane, with my teffilin, i was told i would not be able to stand, but sit down.
I did just that, but i felt rather weired, sitting for Shmoneh Esrei, and i had this guy looking at me,like i had fell from mars, or something.

The next question is, when od you know when you have to daven mincha, like in the above situation, but you dont have the current time, or you are not sure if it is past Mincha Gedolah yet.

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There are many Rabbis who are against praying on a plane especially Schacharit, as most minyanim are held in the back of the plane near the restrooms which are usually in use during prayers and they feel that this is very disrespectful vis a vis praying, tefillin, etc.
If I am arriving at TLV in the morning I usually wait to daven at the airport ( there is an 8 oclock employee minyan landside) or wait till I get home
Same thing upon arrival in US where I go to the nearest shul to my destintion

Many Orthodox Rabbis say you can pray Shmoneh Esreh sitting down and if you have to pray it should be at your seat and not near the bathroom