Does anyone know what Caribbean destinations the A330 still goes to? I know it goes to SJU, are there any other destinations served by it? Thanks!!

SJU. The 767 goes to CUN and STT.

Does anyone know what Caribbean destinations the A330 still goes to? I know it goes to SJU, are there any other destinations served by it? Thanks!!

To the best of my knowledge, the A330 has never gone anywhere in the Caribbean market except PHL-SJU-PHL. In any event, in present (and recent memory) the 9:40ish a.m. PHL-SJU (notorious for taking long mechanical delays) and SJU-PHL 3:30ish p.m. return is the only Caribbean route serviced by the A330.

To the best of my knowledge, the A330 has never gone anywhere in the Caribbean market except PHL-SJU-PHL. In any event, in present (and recent memory) the 9:40ish a.m. PHL-SJU (notorious for taking long mechanical delays) and SJU-PHL 3:30ish p.m. return is the only Caribbean route serviced by the A330.

BUZZ! WRONG. :D Summer 2004 the A330 flew to the US Virgin Island, not sure whether it was STX or STT, but I remember seing it! Also not sure if flown from CLT or PHL. I think it was CLT-STX. But I remember seing it!

Also, in terms of the domestic market it used to fly CLT-MCO, now it does PHL-CLT and back!

BUZZ! WRONG. :D Summer 2004 the A330 flew to the US Virgin Island, not sure whether it was STX or STT, but I remember seing it! Also not sure if flown from CLT or PHL. I think it was CLT-STX. But I remember seing it!

Also, in terms of the domestic market it used to fly CLT-MCO, now it does PHL-CLT and back!
It definitely wasn't STX (I live there). That would be the biggest plane in STX in my memory if it was there. Most likely STT although I don't specifically recall there.

Sean

Not SXM, either, although it would be nice to see something other than a 757, A340 or 747 come in (and those countless Air Carib puddle jumpers).

BUZZ! WRONG. :D Summer 2004 the A330 flew to the US Virgin Island, not sure whether it was STX or STT, but I remember seing it! Also not sure if flown from CLT or PHL. I think it was CLT-STX. But I remember seing it!

Also, in terms of the domestic market it used to fly CLT-MCO, now it does PHL-CLT and back!

It "now it does PHL-CLT" :confused: ??? Are you sure about that? There are a couple of A330's in CLT daily for CLT-FRA and CLT-LGW, however, I'm pretty sure that there is not (and hasn't been for a long time, if ever) a PHL-CLT-PHL route serviced by the A330.

It "now it does PHL-CLT" :confused: ??? Are you sure about that? There are a couple of A330's in CLT daily for CLT-FRA and CLT-LGW, however, I'm pretty sure that there is not (and hasn't been for a long time, if ever) a PHL-CLT-PHL route serviced by the A330.

Apologies, didnt word correctly. I was trying to say the 767 flies the PHL-CLT and back, and the CLT-MCO route and back, not the A330. But the A330 did go to the US Virign Island at one point, and I'm leaning more to the STX option than the STT option!

Apologies, didnt word correctly. I was trying to say the 767 flies the PHL-CLT and back, and the CLT-MCO route and back, not the A330. But the A330 did go to the US Virign Island at one point, and I'm leaning more to the STX option than the STT option!

Ah. Fair enough and thanks for the clarification. Having landed in STT several times, I don't know that the runway is long enough to accommodate an A330, but I could be wrong. I would be very interested to hear the final result on where else, if anywhere, the A330 has serviced in the Caribbean other than SJU.

Also, didn't the A330 used to go from PIT-PHL or PHL-PIT on a repositioning run about four or five years ago when PIT did a fair amount of TA business?

Runway lengths:
STT = 5348 ft
STX = 7612 ft
SJU = 10,000 ft
SXM = 7054 ft

It's highly unlikely the 330 went to STT- the runway isn't long enough. 757's can't even depart STT for a nonstop back to PHL without hopping over to SJU to fill up. The 330 was also never in regular scheduled service to any carib island other than SJU. It might have operated to others on charter or some special brief service.

And, the 330 was never in scheduled service between PIT-PHL/PIT-CLT either. With only 9 to rotate around, there's little time or need to reposition it since the required equipment is in the respective city.

Runway lengths:
STT = 5348 ft
STX = 7612 ft
SJU = 10,000 ft
SXM = 7054 ft

It's highly unlikely the 330 went to STT- the runway isn't long enough. 757's can't even depart STT for a nonstop back to PHL without hopping over to SJU to fill up. The 330 was also never in regular scheduled service to any carib island other than SJU. It might have operated to others on charter or some special brief service.

And, the 330 was never in scheduled service between PIT-PHL/PIT-CLT either. With only 9 to rotate around, there's little time or need to reposition it since the required equipment is in the respective city.

The runway length confirms my suspicion that the runway in STT is not long enough to accommodate an A330.

I will disagree, however, with your statement that the 757's can't go non-stop back to PHL ---- I have flown on US 757's non-stop both to and from STT with no stops in SJU or elsewhere. Perhaps you're thinking of AA that (at least used to) fly STT-SJU-PHL --- that was to pick up passengers though, not because it couldn't carry enough fuel out of STT to make it to PHL.

I will disagree, however, with your statement that the 757's can't go non-stop back to PHL ---- I have flown on US 757's non-stop both to and from STT with no stops in SJU or elsewhere.

I'm definitely not thinking of AA. It was a US 757 captain I was speaking with on the ground at STT that told me the runway length is too short to fill the plane with pax and fuel to make it back to PHL. But, now that I look at the schedules, it appears USAirways does run a nonstop 757 from STT to PHL. Something must have changed...they might reduce the number of seats available to sell. They might cut the fuel reserves (but still stay in legal limits, of course). Did STT increase the runway length in recent years?

Also, didn't the A330 used to go from PIT-PHL or PHL-PIT on a repositioning run about four or five years ago when PIT did a fair amount of TA business?

That was a 767 that made the PIT-PHL run.

That was a 767 that made the PIT-PHL run.

I thought there had been a wide body (although I was apparently mistakenly thinking of the A330) that made the short hop from PIT to PHL years ago. Thanks!

I'm definitely not thinking of AA. It was a US 757 captain I was speaking with on the ground at STT that told me the runway length is too short to fill the plane with pax and fuel to make it back to PHL. But, now that I look at the schedules, it appears USAirways does run a nonstop 757 from STT to PHL. Something must have changed...they might reduce the number of seats available to sell. They might cut the fuel reserves (but still stay in legal limits, of course). Did STT increase the runway length in recent years?

I am not aware of any recent runway improvements in STT, but perhaps that's the difference if it's been a long time since your experience. US has been using the 757 (and the 767) for PHL-STT-PHL routes for a few years. I have flown both types of equipment non-stop PHL-STT-PHL and have never had to stop in SJU, or anywhere else, for fuel.

Runway lengths:
STT = 5348 ft
STX = 7612 ft
SJU = 10,000 ft
SXM = 7054 ft

It's highly unlikely the 330 went to STT- the runway isn't long enough. 757's can't even depart STT for a nonstop back to PHL without hopping over to SJU to fill up. The 330 was also never in regular scheduled service to any carib island other than SJU. It might have operated to others on charter or some special brief service.

And, the 330 was never in scheduled service between PIT-PHL/PIT-CLT either. With only 9 to rotate around, there's little time or need to reposition it since the required equipment is in the respective city.

Thank you for confirming this... I am know positive it was STX. Though may sound a little silly, one thing I recall(sort of deja vu) is an X in the 3 letter code on the old US Airways site, and I know it was the US Virgin Islands, since that was what I was searching for. The A330 flew to STX! The A330 also made appearances in BWI and BOS (late 90's early 00's)

It's only anecdotal, but I've never seen our A330 use 18L/36R in CLT for departure or arrival, and it's 1050 ft longer than the runway in STX. It uses the 10,000 ft 18R/36L.

Don't know why since LH regularly uses 18L/36R for departures and arrivals with their A340.

Jim

Thank you for confirming this... I am know positive it was STX. Though may sound a little silly, one thing I recall(sort of deja vu) is an X in the 3 letter code on the old US Airways site, and I know it was the US Virgin Islands, since that was what I was searching for. The A330 flew to STX! The A330 also made appearances in BWI and BOS (late 90's early 00's)

BUZZ - WRONG

You are mistaken -- the A330 did not enter service with US Airways until mid-2000 with service to Paris. Also made a few test runs to Miami and SJU. It never went to Boston or Baltimore.

While it is true - Paris was the inaugural flight of the A330 for USAirways in May of 2000, followed by, I believe, Rome in July of that year. While the A330 has never been in regular scheduled service in BOS or BWI, it may have made appearances there for 9xxx flights like crew training, proving, etc. This is a question for usaviation.com. The employees there are like an encylcopedia of knowledge when it comes to this kind of thing.

While it is true - Paris was the inaugural flight of the A330 for USAirways in May of 2000, followed by, I believe, Rome in July of that year. While the A330 has never been in regular scheduled service in BOS or BWI, it may have made appearances there for 9xxx flights like crew training, proving, etc. This is a question for usaviation.com. The employees there are like an encylcopedia of knowledge when it comes to this kind of thing.

I checked the photo database on Airliners.net and found photos of the 330 in BWI on a weather diversion

HERE (http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0426135&WxsIERv=Nveohf%20N330-323K&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=HF%20Nvejnlf&QtODMg=Onygvzber%20%2F%20Jnfuvatgba%20-%20Vagreangvbany%20%28Sevraqfuvc%29%20%28OJV%20%2F %20XOJV%29&ERDLTkt=HFN%20-%20Znelynaq&ktODMp=Frcgrzore%2014%2C%202003&BP=0&WNEb25u=Funja%20Olref&xsIERvdWdsY=A677HJ&MgTUQtODMgKE=Cnexrq%20jvgu%20fvfgrefuvc%20A678HF%2 0jnvgvat%20sbe%20jrngure%20gb%20pyrne%20va%20Cuvyn qrycuvn.&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=1907&NEb25uZWxs=2003-09-20%2000%3A00%3A00&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=380&static=yes&width=1024&height=628&sok=&photo_nr=2&prev_id=0426561&next_id=NEXTID)

And in BOS HERE (http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0286619&WxsIERv=Nveohf%20N330-323K&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=HF%20Nvejnlf&QtODMg=Obfgba%20-%20Trareny%20Rqjneq%20Ynjerapr%20Ybtna%20Vagreangv bany%20%28OBF%20%2F%20XOBF%29&ERDLTkt=HFN%20-%20Znffnpuhfrggf&ktODMp=Bpgbore%202002&BP=0&WNEb25u=Puevfgbcure%20Yvnb%20-%20Fcbg%20Guvf%21&xsIERvdWdsY=A676HJ&MgTUQtODMgKE=Zl%20svefg%20gvzr%20anvyvat%20n%20HF3 30%2C%20ng%20OBF%20abarguryrff.%20Vg%20pbhyq%20or% 20abar%20bgure%20guna%20n%20qvirefvba%21&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=801&NEb25uZWxs=2002-10-21%2000%3A00%3A00&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=375&static=yes&width=980&height=680&sok=&photo_nr=2&prev_id=0380329&next_id=NEXTID)

It's certainly possible that the A330 has "made appearances" in some fairly out-of-the-way airports. Aside from the aforementioned training/proving flights, there's always diversions.

I remember watching an A330 make 3 approaches to 9L one day in PHL when the wind was blowing from the south with gusts up to 45 mph - glad I wasn't on that thing with all the gyrations it was doing. Don't know where it diverted to, but it didn't land at PHL.

I've also seen 2 American 767's on the ground at ORF and an American 777 on the ground at BUF - all diversions.

Jim

My memory might be fuzzy, but I think I remember the 330s running transcons for awhile during the certification and/or ETOPS proving process.

Or I could be dreaming it. I fondly remember the 767s on transcon runs

And they have done BWI on diverts. I was on one.