I have been looking at a rental car for LCA and I never see anything on the websites about the mandatory fuel pre-pay charge. Do all rental car companies at LCA have this charge?? Has anyone rented a car and not been charged for fuel??

Well, we rented Avis, and I made the reservation in the US in advance, and at first the fee was not mentioned. When I called back to check some details of the reservation, the agent did mention that I would have to pay for a "tank of fuel" when reviewing the full costs associated with the rental. He didn't know exactly what this charge would be, but it turned out to be 35 CYP per rental (there was also a sign to this effect at the counter, and it was written into the contract). Not a big deal really b/c our rate was otherwise quite cheap. I also took out the 2 optional insurances because I was informed that I would otherwise be liable for the full cost of the vehicle and I was driving a manual on the other side of the road so it was worth it to me. The insurance totaled 11 CYP/day, so you just beware that it adds up if you choose to do this!

When I have more than 3 segments on an intl itinerary, I do not even think of checking baggage due to the P.I.T.A. factor of not having my clothing in a foreign country.


I very much hope that I will not get my checked luggage within four hours. I then will be able to buy many, many nice things at no cost thanks to my insurance :D

I have been looking at a rental car for LCA and I never see anything on the websites about the mandatory fuel pre-pay charge. Do all rental car companies at LCA have this charge?? Has anyone rented a car and not been charged for fuel??

When I rented a car they charged me for a full tank of gas. However if you return it full (which I did) they refund the amount.

When I rented a car they charged me for a full tank of gas. However if you return it full (which I did) they refund the amount.

Which car rental agency did you use?? Im only going to be in Cyprus for one day so the pre-paid fuel charge is almost the cost of the car rental.

I arrived this morning into MXP aboard the nonstop from YYZ. Will post full trip report soon. The checkin went very smoothly. Flight was twenty minutes late pushing from the gate, but we got to MXP as scheduled. No amenity kits on this flight, as YYZ ground staff forgot to board them. Service was fantastic. Seat was ancient, as was the plane. Only two seats open in Business. Note to those travelling soon - the seats on the right side of Business (HJK-ish) had no power. No seat recline, no legrest... the staff knew it was a problem before the pax boarded. They informed the pax while still on the ground in YYZ, but none of the pax seemed to care. My personal advice is to either get a center seat (which I very much enjoyed) or sit on the left side. Flying tomorrow on the nonstop MXP-LCA in C.

I have to get to Kiev while on my LCA trip.
Does anyone know of cheap flights from Milan to Kiev in August or LCA to Kiev in August. then I have to get to Yalta from Kiev... anyone know best way?
tks

I arrived this morning into MXP aboard the nonstop from YYZ. . Flying tomorrow on the nonstop MXP-LCA in C.I am at Club Hotel tonight near central train station, 60 euros.
I hope to find you tomorrow on flight to LCA.
I've got a camo backpack (TSA never sees me) with yellow flyertalk tag flying. :D

I'm at the AC IFT MLL at YYZ. Check-in went smoothly. Waiting for the plane. Actually got to the lounge before it got to the gate. No warning as to wether this bird has the inop seats. It's tail RD.

I'm getting a really good rate for a Toyota Rav4 with Hertz & Ameniti CDP: 63.83CYP for three days.. only 4CYP more than a mini car rate! I guess you can't go wrong with that?

I arrived this morning into MXP aboard the nonstop from YYZ. Will post full trip report soon. The checkin went very smoothly. Flight was twenty minutes late pushing from the gate, but we got to MXP as scheduled. No amenity kits on this flight, as YYZ ground staff forgot to board them. Service was fantastic. Seat was ancient, as was the plane. Only two seats open in Business. Note to those travelling soon - the seats on the right side of Business (HJK-ish) had no power. No seat recline, no legrest... the staff knew it was a problem before the pax boarded. They informed the pax while still on the ground in YYZ, but none of the pax seemed to care. My personal advice is to either get a center seat (which I very much enjoyed) or sit on the left side. Flying tomorrow on the nonstop MXP-LCA in C.
no recline? at all?

no recline? at all?

If true, maybe AZ intended to sell the seats for $33 after all. ;)

Isn't AZ using the newer 767-400 from YYZ-FCO this summer? And aren't the biz seats the newly upgraded Magnifica class?

Isn't AZ using the newer 767-400 from YYZ-FCO this summer? And aren't the biz seats the newly upgraded Magnifica class?

Alitalia is using the 767-300 with new SQ Spacebed-like Magnifica seats (internal designator: 764) on Toronto-Rome this summer. Toronto-Milan (MXP) continues to use the ex-Eurofly 767-300 (internal designation: 762) planes that feature standard Magnifica seats but are in a relatively poor condition, as others have experienced in their travels.

no recline? at all?

Alitalia's Magnifica seats are fully electronic - no power, no recline...

Alitalia is using the 767-300 with new SQ Spacebed-like Magnifica seats (internal designator: 764) on Toronto-Rome this summer. Toronto-Milan (MXP) continues to use the ex-Eurofly 767-300 (internal designation: 762) planes that feature standard Magnifica seats but are in a relatively poor condition, as others have experienced in their travels.

Does anyone know whether AZ plans to reconfigure these ex Eurofly 767s any time soon or chnage equipment on the why why zed flight over the winter?

Does anyone know whether AZ plans to reconfigure these ex Eurofly 767s any time soon or chnage equipment on the why why zed flight over the winter?

From what I understand, the ex-Eurofly birds will likely be the last 767s to be reconfigured. That said, you might luck out on getting a reconfigured plane once the summer peak flying draws down and AZ has the capacity cushion to schedule the birds for refitting.

Has anyone taken pictures yet?

How about EQMs on AZ's millemiglia...for those who plan on crediting the whole thing yyz-italy-lca to AZ's account--specifically referring to the COS EQM bonus ...what effect will the fact that we had to go with Y cabin on most of the italy-lca segments?

Anyone have insight on this issue?

arrived LCA a few hours ago,
enjoyed chatting with SEAUAKID
as well as Salmon and Tattinger Champagne.

I arrived w/o reservation,
fine tourist office inside baggage claim
set me up with Petrou Bros apartment,
downtown LCA 1 block from seafront,22 pounds,
nice, spacious with kitchen and frig

Only took another 5 minutes to ticket CY flight
to CAI for tomorrow night.

taxi into town 6 pounds, everything very easy ! ^ ^

Only took another 5 minutes to ticket CY flight
to CAI for tomorrow night.



Was thinking of doing this... If I may ask, How much was your flight to CAI?
Did you have a reservation already?

Thanks

I am in the YYZ AC lounge now,(June 20) waiting for the first leg of my flight to MXP. I will also write a longer trip report in the community section. I did cause a bit of commotion at the desk however when the agents saw the price of the fare LOL!! i think they wished they had got in on the deal as well.
The agents also tried to assign my CY seat but no go, will get one at MXP. Everything is very easy,a lthough don't try to cut your time short to get to YYZ.. I took the grey dog from ROC (it took as long as the @#$% flight will to MXP) and the transfer bus takes about 10 minutes to get to the intl gates. I will check on the seat situation discussed yesterday and write a fuller report in the community section....when I arrive tommorow.

as well as Salmon and Tattinger Champagne. What a relief! I was concerned they'd serve Spumante or Prosecco or something.

Phew!

Was thinking of doing this... If I may ask, How much was your flight to CAI?
Did you have a reservation already?

Thanks Hey, Tina! According to MrHalliday's website, he paid $213 (don't know if that's all-in) PFO-CAI on Egypt Air. IIRC, he booked in April or May.

Are you still going in July?

Hey, Tina! According to MrHalliday's website, he paid $213 (don't know if that's all-in) PFO-CAI on Egypt Air. IIRC, he booked in April or May.

Are you still going in July?


Hey Friend!

Thanks for the info.

I changed my dates to End of September - Mid October so that I would have more of a vacation. Added a stopover in FCO. It was very easy thanks to all the hard work of others. I have 10 days in LCA that I would like to turn into time in CAI and TLV. As a solo, LCA seems abit expensive. So, a cheap fare elsewhere would be good.

Hey, Tina! According to MrHalliday's website, he paid $213 (don't know if that's all-in) PFO-CAI on Egypt Air. IIRC, he booked in April or May.To clarify, I hadn't actually bought anything as of yesterday,
just put notes in my website of the two choices.
I had considered the egyptair from Paphos, as it was a bit cheaper,
but on arrival reserved LCA-CAI at the Airport Sales desk
for 125 pounds or so, i.e. about $260.

The reservation process was easy,
and even though I offered the credit card,
they said, oh, just buy it tomorrow when you come back,
we are open til 10 pm.

The thing is I heard egyptair is not so great, and CY seemed excellent.
On top of that, the suggestion to post CY segments
to CY Sunmiles account seemed very good.

Signed up online from Milan, 500 join bonus already in account.
Just the flights from this jaunt will get me a free trip to
Beirut, Damascus, TLV, or Amman for the next trip in Sep-Oct.
Thanks to whoever suggested that !

FYI, I have posted the begining of my trip report under travelingman's LCA trip in the community section, if anyone is interested .. much the same, except I have had some intersting gate interactions and problems with seat assignments, but I am good to go and soon will get on the CY leg...

are u sure u will get the miles on CY for the alitalia codeshare CY flights ???

r

To clarify, I hadn't actually bought anything as of yesterday,
just put notes in my website of the two choices.
I had considered the egyptair from Paphos, as it was a bit cheaper,
but on arrival reserved LCA-CAI at the Airport Sales desk
for 125 pounds or so, i.e. about $260.

The reservation process was easy,
and even though I offered the credit card,
they said, oh, just buy it tomorrow when you come back,
we are open til 10 pm.

The thing is I heard egyptair is not so great, and CY seemed excellent.
On top of that, the suggestion to post CY segments
to CY Sunmiles account seemed very good.

Signed up online from Milan, 500 join bonus already in account.
Just the flights from this jaunt will get me a free trip to
Beirut, Damascus, TLV, or Amman for the next trip in Sep-Oct.
Thanks to whoever suggested that !

are u sure u will get the miles on CY for the alitalia codeshare CY flights ???rThere is very little I am totally sure of.
I will know in a few days if they post or not.

I carefully made sure the CY Sunmiles number
printed correctly on my boarding pass at MXP.
It actually took the nice lady in AZ lounge
3 tries to get it formatted right,

.....and she asked me the same question,
whether CY would give the points on an AZ codeshare ticket,
she doubted it....but also said if it didn't work,
just send in a copy of BP and ticket later for AZ MM miles.

I guess I could go to the Sunmiles FAQ's and look around,
but I am lazy, and soon heading back to LCA
for tonight's ride to Cairo and the $8.50 sofitel for next three weeks ^

Vamos a ver....

My First Post - feel free to move this post if I'm in the wrong spot

I am booked for travel to Cyprus on Oct 23. This is my first trip overseas, however, my family and I have flown to Florida the past five years in a row and I can see that vacationing is something we will probably do a lot of in the coming years. (FYI - I live in Prince Edward Island, Canada.)

I currently collect AirMiles (the blue card), which takes forever and also have a Royal Bank Avion Visa that collects points. Now. My question is where do I start when it comes to collecting real "Frequent Flyer Miles". Do you have any suggestions or even websites that explain it for newbies. I have searched the web and it seems it is a topic only for those "in the know"...

Here is an article a Larnaca newspaper did on our good fortune.
http://www.whatwetalkedaboutatlunch.com/donimages/newspaper.jpg
Thank you for any info you may have.

the $8.50 sofitel for next three weeks

did i miss this somewhere around post 4k? :p

My First Post - feel free to move this post if I'm in the wrong spot

Dear vintagemusic -- welcome to FlyerTalk and congrats on getting in on the YYZ-LCA deal.

How are you getting from Charlottetown to YYZ?

My advise re FF programs: If you're living in Canada, you need Aeroplan. Sign up on line. For the YYZ-LCA legs, you have a choice. I already have the NW program so that's where I'll earn my miles, but you could choose CO or DL.
--
13F

PS I'm orginally from YSJ. Visited relatives near North Rustico almost every summer growing up.

My First Post - feel free to move this post if I'm in the wrong spot

no, this is quite the right spot for your first post...welcome to FT! :)

Dear vintagemusic -- welcome to FlyerTalk and congrats on getting in on the YYZ-LCA deal.

How are you getting from Charlottetown to YYZ?

My advise re FF programs: If you're living in Canada, you need Aeroplan. Sign up on line. For the YYZ-LCA legs, you have a choice. I already have the NW program so that's where I'll earn my miles, but you could choose CO or DL.
--
13F

PS I'm orginally from YSJ. Visited relatives near North Rustico almost every summer growing up.

To get to YYZ? We will probably look for a WestJet or CanJet sale. It will probably end up costing more than our trip to Cyprus!!! I appreciate your advice however, I can easily get lost in your acronym world. NW?=NorthWest CO?NL?

I understand Aeroplan is great, however, due to our banking situation I will probably stick with the Avion. With the Avion or Aeroplan, you collect points based on how much money you spend on the card. Is there not some form of points system based solely on the amount you fly, or am I confused.

To get to YYZ? We will probably look for a WestJet or CanJet sale. It will probably end up costing more than our trip to Cyprus!!! I appreciate your advice however, I can easily get lost in your acronym world. NW?=NorthWest CO?NL?

I understand Aeroplan is great, however, due to our banking situation I will probably stick with the Avion. With the Avion or Aeroplan, you collect points based on how much money you spend on the card. Is there not some form of points system based solely on the amount you fly, or am I confused.

NW = NorthWest
CO = Continental
DL = Delta

The abbreviations are for the airlines' flight codes, for example, AC7657 is an Air Canada flight from Washington Dulles to Ottawa.

Stick with Avion for your credit card. But let's say you fly YHZ-MCO for your Florida vacation. You buy the tickets with your RBC Avion card and earn points. No problem. But let's say the flights are with AC. Unless you sign up for Aeroplan (and I don't mean an Aerogold credit card), unless you sign up for Aeroplan, you will be throwing away miles you could earn for these flights.
--
13F

let me/us know when you find out

thnx,
r


There is very little I am totally sure of.
I will know in a few days if they post or not.

I carefully made sure the CY Sunmiles number
printed correctly on my boarding pass at MXP.
It actually took the nice lady in AZ lounge
3 tries to get it formatted right,

.....and she asked me the same question,
whether CY would give the points on an AZ codeshare ticket,
she doubted it....but also said if it didn't work,
just send in a copy of BP and ticket later for AZ MM miles.

I guess I could go to the Sunmiles FAQ's and look around,
but I am lazy, and soon heading back to LCA
for tonight's ride to Cairo and the $8.50 sofitel for next three weeks ^

Vamos a ver....

Hey Donnie,

Frequent Flyer Miles are a bit different than the non-status miles that come with our credit cards. For those of us on the east coast, Aeroplan is pretty much our only bet for FFM's, especially going to places like Florida, unless you are making the jaunt to Halifax to fly AA/UA/NWA down south.



My First Post - feel free to move this post if I'm in the wrong spot

I am booked for travel to Cyprus on Oct 23. This is my first trip overseas, however, my family and I have flown to Florida the past five years in a row and I can see that vacationing is something we will probably do a lot of in the coming years. (FYI - I live in Prince Edward Island, Canada.)

I currently collect AirMiles (the blue card), which takes forever and also have a Royal Bank Avion Visa that collects points. Now. My question is where do I start when it comes to collecting real "Frequent Flyer Miles". Do you have any suggestions or even websites that explain it for newbies. I have searched the web and it seems it is a topic only for those "in the know"...

Here is an article a Larnaca newspaper did on our good fortune.
http://www.whatwetalkedaboutatlunch.com/donimages/newspaper.jpg
Thank you for any info you may have.

I have been following the thread as much as possible for quite a while, but I am left unsure as to the best FF program to which these miles should go. I have status on NO Skyteam partner programs, so doubling is not a factor. With approximately the following amounts currently in each program, which one would be best to drop my YYZ-FCO and MXP-YYZ segs into? (I think the LCA segs are pretty much throwaways for me in terms of FF credit.):
CO: 20,000 approx. current balance
NW: 30,000 approx. current balance
DL: 40,000 approx. current balance
I use these programs for the odd flight up front to airports that are difficult to get to on AA or UA, hence the odd balances.
Your advice is much appreciated.

My question is where do I start when it comes to collecting real "Frequent Flyer Miles". Do you have any suggestions or even websites that explain it for newbies. I have searched the web and it seems it is a topic only for those "in the know"...


Webflyer.com is part of the same group as FlyerTalk
http://www.webflyer.com/programs/program_guide/program.php?program=AC01 looks at Air Canada's plan

http://www.webflyer.com/programs/program_guide/program.php?program=UA01 looks at United's plan

and the list goes on...
check it out!

I have been following the thread as much as possible for quite a while, but I am left unsure as to the best FF program to which these miles should go. I have status on NO Skyteam partner programs, so doubling is not a factor. With approximately the following amounts currently in each program, which one would be best to drop my YYZ-FCO and MXP-YYZ segs into? (I think the LCA segs are pretty much throwaways for me in terms of FF credit.):
CO: 20,000 approx. current balance
NW: 30,000 approx. current balance
DL: 40,000 approx. current balance
I use these programs for the odd flight up front to airports that are difficult to get to on AA or UA, hence the odd balances.
Your advice is much appreciated.

You'll earn 150% mileage no matter which airline you credit to. So, that comes out to about 13,000 miles, give or take a little. I would probably drop them in the Delta account because that will push you over the 50k threshold for awards, which can get you a RT on DL to Southern South America or Europe or North Africa. And, you'd only be a few K short of an award to Asia/Micronesia.

I would consider what type of leisure travel I might be doing in the near future. If I want to go to Europe/S. SA/N. Africa/Asia/Micronesia, I think Delta would be my choice.

You'll earn 150% mileage no matter which airline you credit to. So, that comes out to about 13,000 miles, give or take a little. I would probably drop them in the Delta account because that will push you over the 50k threshold for awards, which can get you a RT on DL to Southern South America or Europe or North Africa. And, you'd only be a few K short of an award to Asia/Micronesia.

I would consider what type of leisure travel I might be doing in the near future. If I want to go to Europe/S. SA/N. Africa/Asia/Micronesia, I think Delta would be my choice.

Thank you for simplifying things for me-- it's just what I needed. I appreciate the DL advice too.

Ok, I can't take it any more. I am clueless, and I just gotta ask. Why was this deal 59 TIMES more popular than the Huntsville - Anchorage deal?? :confused: (Judging by the relative number of posts each got) - See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=544045

I booked a trip to Anchorage for peak summer travel for under $200 round trip, then a roundtrip to Huntsville, also for under $200; total is under $400 for about 16000 EQM (in my case with Northwest). I would have probably paid about the same for a little less miles for the Toronto - Cyprus deal (Unless my calculations are off?), and in my case the only time I could have booked that was in the winter time. In the end I didn't pull the trigger on Cyprus and felt pretty content with just sticking with the Alaska deal. I realize that the Cyprus deal books directly into business class; but I assume most flyertalkers can get upgrades on domestic flights anyway, which Alaska is. I just don't see that much difference in the desirability of the Alaska / Cyprus deals; plus going into the Cyprus deal there appeared to be more risk that the airline / travel agency would stiff the customer.

Ok, I can't take it any more. I am clueless, and I just gotta ask. Why was this deal 59 TIMES more popular than the Huntsville - Anchorage deal?? :confused:

Many reasons:

- Paid business class (international business class product plus bonus miles)

- Peak season across the Atlantic

- Opportunity to stopover in Rome or Milan

- Opportunity to nest relatively inexpensive side trips to popular places in Europe, Israel, and Egypt

I realize that the Cyprus deal books directly into business class; but I assume most flyertalkers can get upgrades on domestic flights anyway, which Alaska is. I just don't see that much difference in the desirability of the Alaska / Cyprus deals; plus going into the Cyprus deal there appeared to be more risk that the airline / travel agency would stiff the customer.

Most people are using this as a springboard to Europe and other destinations, and on NWA, it's about 20K* for $230, in confirmed biz class.

As for the ANC deal, no guarantee of biz upgrade unless you spend miles, you earn less miles, and probably for a good bunch of people, no where else to go from once you get to AK.

*20K with bonuses, only 12K of EQM

[QUOTE=GrizShel]Ok, I can't take it any more. I am clueless, and I just gotta ask. Why was this deal 59 TIMES more popular than the Huntsville - Anchorage deal?? :confused: (Judging by the relative number of posts each got)/QUOTE]

This deal got more posts because more people got in on it. This is a function of how long it was available, the destination, and class of service. The ANC deal may have been just as desirable from a cpm perspective (more desirable once the cost of getting to Toronto is figured in), but it just didn't have the same appeal to lurkers and the farealert crowd. Many better deals than the present one have received much less attention (function of when they are posted, where they originate, etc)...

(Judging by the relative number of posts each got)


Lots of great points have been made already, but I'll add one (maybe not so great). There are a whole lot of posts here that don't correspond to anything in that other thread. There are no passport questions about going to Alaska. There are no questions about what kind of plane/seats. There are no questions about seasonality of the flight schedules. Most importantly, of course, there are no questions about how the carrier is going to respond. The deal was much cleaner and more of a known quantity. Plus, Cyprus. :)

and on NWA, it's about 20K for $230, in confirmed biz class.

How do you get 20K?

I see YYZ-FCO-YYZ at 13243 miles including the 50% bonus. YYZ-FCO-YYZ is only about 8800 miles. Where are you getting an extra 7k?

How do you get 20K?

I see YYZ-FCO-YYZ at 13243 miles including the 50% bonus. YYZ-FCO-YYZ is only about 8800 miles. Where are you getting an extra 7k?

*I neglected to note that I was getting total redeemable miles, not EQM only in the other post... but here's basically where I posted from a previous post (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5909034&postcount=6889) (which I'm assuming is correct... no one really corrected it):

Being NWA Gold and wanting to credit my YYZ-MXP flights to NWA Worldperks, I would earn (RT):
YYZ-MXP*
Flight Mileage
8,238 miles EQM
Biz Bonus
4,119 miles EQM
Gold Bonus
8,238 miles
Total
20,595 miles

Sorry for the confusion... hope that clarifies.

ok same question again :)

so if you have no status you earn only about 13K miles if you credit these flights to your SkyTeam account, right?

what do you earn with MILLEMIGLIA? Somebody mentioned you can get more than 20K miles, is this correct?

I was looking at this page: http://www.alitaliausa.com/millemiglia/redeem_miles/other/nam.htm
Flights within North America are 25K AZ miles in economy class

So if you have 20K+ miles in your AZ account, you can transfer a few miles from your spg account if you have one (1:1) and get yourself a free ticket

[QUOTE=GrizShel]Ok, I can't take it any more. I am clueless, and I just gotta ask. Why was this deal 59 TIMES more popular than the Huntsville - Anchorage deal?? :confused: (Judging by the relative number of posts each got) - See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=544045




I did both!!!! Going to ANC in august and Cyprus in September!!!

forgive me for asking but what was the huntsville anchorage deal..?

inquiring minds want to know.. :D

Just a heads up to the DC people I've been talking to:

United is running an Efare from DCA-YYZ for $200 w/ all taxes included. The fare is bookable thru Orbitz or Kayak or Cheaptickets.

It has been around $290+...

Just a heads up to the DC people I've been talking to:

United is running an Efare from DCA-YYZ for $200 w/ all taxes included. The fare is bookable thru Orbitz or Kayak or Cheaptickets.

It has been around $290+...
and also IAD-YYZ award travel is only 15K miles on United

The thing is I heard egyptair is not so great, and CY seemed excellent.
On top of that, the suggestion to post CY segments
to CY Sunmiles account seemed very good.

Signed up online from Milan, 500 join bonus already in account.
Just the flights from this jaunt will get me a free trip to
Beirut, Damascus, TLV, or Amman for the next trip in Sep-Oct.
Thanks to whoever suggested that !
You're welcome :)
I am about to board CY 429 TLV-LCA scored the exit row aisle for the 30 minute flight.

I am going to YYZ tomorrow and on Saturday, zoom to MXP-FCO-LCA! Who's there?

Hello everyone. Im new to Flyertalk and I was very fortunate to get in on this deal. Im currently a member of NWA Worldperks and I have about 5000 miles in that account. Do you think the best thing for me to do is to get credit for this trip on NWA or should I apply for Alitalia's mileage program? I don't think I will be doing alot traveling this year other than my trip to Cyprus. Im new to this and just wanted to get some help with what I should do.

You're welcome :)
I became a bit less lazy today and emailed CY
about Sunmiles credit on AZ coded flights.
The email came back very promptly saying no.

Oh well, wasted a little time, and popped that bubble.
Too bad because it is $200-300 to BEY, AMM etc. from LCA
despite the very short distances.
Ferries don't seem to be practical anymore either.

Now will have to work a bit more
to get that MXP-LCA seg credited to MM instead.
Its a full time job, this flyertalk life :D .

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Dear sir

With AZ flights you cannot get points with us. In order to get miles you need to travel on a Cyprus Airways document, flight and aircraft.

Thank you

Loyalty Schemes
Cyprus Airways Ltd
P O Box 21903, 1514 Nicosia
www.cyprusairways.com

I am going to YYZ tomorrow and on Saturday, zoom to MXP-FCO-LCA! Who's there?

I am! :cool: Got here yesterday. I'm fairly tired from the flights as I did YYZ-BOS-MXP-FCO-LCA. Staying in town, PM me for details.

Some advice. Bring your own headphones at least as even in business class the ones they give you are crap. Same as Y class junk. So noise cancelling if you got em.

I got 1A on the BOS-MXP flight and think this is the preferred row. There is more legroom, etc. Disregard Seatguru on its recommendations.

Arriving at MXP is fairly easy, passport formalities take place after you go into the non-schengen area. There is an Alitalia club on this side (to the right after you come up the escalator), I would go there first to take a shower as the ones in the club on the schengen/domestic side aren't too swell. (They're basically in the men's john).

Eat your breakfast on the plane as there is really nothing in the club to eat except for cookies and potato chips. Good coffee bar though.

The MXP-FCO flight is a slave galley ship. Row 10 is the exit row and definately the one to have.

Connecting at FCO is something of a mess. After you go thru security you take a left to go through passport control into the non-schengen area. Huge line for me. I think it might make sense to follow the exit Roma signs after getting off the plane (not transit) and then re-enter from the airport departures area.

Cyprus Air uses the gates in the satellite area. The Alitalia club there is nothing to scream about but they do have some food.

Arrival in Larnaca is a breeze. Cyprus tourist board desk in the baggage claim area. Taxi into the center of town is 5 pounds.

Hello everyone. Im new to Flyertalk and I was very fortunate to get in on this deal. Im currently a member of NWA Worldperks and I have about 5000 miles in that account. Do you think the best thing for me to do is to get credit for this trip on NWA or should I apply for Alitalia's mileage program? I don't think I will be doing alot traveling this year other than my trip to Cyprus. Im new to this and just wanted to get some help with what I should do.


HI Adam,

I would keep them in NWA if I were you. You are very close to a free ticket then.

Hi All,

Looking for some feedback from a unique group within FT that have back to back bookings on this LCA trip(s).

For those who have spoken with Nicolo, has he raised any issues or concerns when asking to rebook turn-around flights (i.e. YYZ-LCA-YYZ, then immediately back out YYZ-LCA-YYZ)?

Not sure how many people are going to try this, but it would be interesting (read: comforting) to know I'm not the only one thinking of doing this.

From my brief conversation with him, I don't think he really cares about what our re-booked itineraries look like, as long as it is within the parameters that AZ has stipulated.

This does not mean he really "gets" the concept of MR. He mentioned to me that he was a bit puzzled about many who re-booked with an overnight turnaround at LCA without any stopovers in Italy. Actually he was quite surprised that mrs. ashaboe and I are actually doing both i.e. stopover in Milan and spending time in Cyprus.

Heck, if I was him/AZ, I would be glad to re-book those (with multiple YYZ-LCA-YYZ tickets) wanting an immediate turnaround at YYZ (and at the same time hoping that some will not make that turnaround).

Hi All,

Looking for some feedback from a unique group within FT that have back to back bookings on this LCA trip(s).

For those who have spoken with Nicolo, has he raised any issues or concerns when asking to rebook turn-around flights (i.e. YYZ-LCA-YYZ, then immediately back out YYZ-LCA-YYZ)?

Not sure how many people are going to try this, but it would be interesting (read: comforting) to know I'm not the only one thinking of doing this.

Not sure how many people are going to try this... YVR Cockroach did his/her turnaround yesterday. I PM'd for info. I'll let you know, but I'm sure he/she will post here. :)

How do you get 20K?

I see YYZ-FCO-YYZ at 13243 miles including the 50% bonus. YYZ-FCO-YYZ is only about 8800 miles. Where are you getting an extra 7k?

Don't forget the other legs ( FCO-LCA-MXP-FCO).
These legs, plus bonues, plus AZ sign-up/initial flight bonuses, should
get us very close to the 25K needed.

From the FT handle, I presume YVR Cockroach is a Canadian citizen or at least resident. This would be an advantage in doing a turnaround at YYZ cuz I'm sure the immigration line is shorter than for foreigners/non-residents. Just something to keep in mind.

I also thought about doing a YYZ turnaround but I finally got a better option (i.e. stopover in MYC until the next trip :D).

YVR Cockroach did his/her turnaround yesterday. I PM'd for info. I'll let you know, but I'm sure he/she will post here. :)

From the FT handle, I presume YVR Cockroach is a Canadian citizen or at least resident. This would be an advantage in doing a turnaround at YYZ cuz I'm sure the immigration line is shorter than for foreigners/non-residents. Just something to keep in mind.

I also thought about doing a YYZ turnaround but I finally got a better option (i.e. stopover in MYC until the next trip :D). Oooooooh, thanks for pointing that out.

Okay, any non-Canadians done/doing a quick turnaround?

I am! :cool: Got here yesterday. I'm fairly tired from the flights as I did YYZ-BOS-MXP-FCO-LCA. Staying in town, PM me for details.

Some advice. Bring your own headphones at least as even in business class the ones they give you are crap. Same as Y class junk. So noise cancelling if you got em.

I got 1A on the BOS-MXP flight and think this is the preferred row. There is more legroom, etc. Disregard Seatguru on its recommendations.

Arriving at MXP is fairly easy, passport formalities take place after you go into the non-schengen area. There is an Alitalia club on this side (to the right after you come up the escalator), I would go there first to take a shower as the ones in the club on the schengen/domestic side aren't too swell. (They're basically in the men's john).

Eat your breakfast on the plane as there is really nothing in the club to eat except for cookies and potato chips. Good coffee bar though.

The MXP-FCO flight is a slave galley ship. Row 10 is the exit row and definately the one to have.

Connecting at FCO is something of a mess. After you go thru security you take a left to go through passport control into the non-schengen area. Huge line for me. I think it might make sense to follow the exit Roma signs after getting off the plane (not transit) and then re-enter from the airport departures area.

Cyprus Air uses the gates in the satellite area. The Alitalia club there is nothing to scream about but they do have some food.

Arrival in Larnaca is a breeze. Cyprus tourist board desk in the baggage claim area. Taxi into the center of town is 5 pounds.
I guess you are doing the same itinerary as I am.
The MXP-FCO flight, did you have a D seat or back in Y?
I get there on the 25th. Will you be there still? PM me how to contact you. We can have some raki (forgot the Greek name for it :) )

Oooooooh, thanks for pointing that out.

Okay, any non-Canadians done/doing a quick turnaround?
There is no difference in turn-around time (i.e. immigration processing) for Canadians vs non-Canadians at YYZ. The only possible exception is for CanPASS members (iris matching technology in an immigration kiosk).
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From the FT handle, I presume YVR Cockroach is a Canadian citizen or at least resident. This would be an advantage in doing a turnaround at YYZ cuz I'm sure the immigration line is shorter than for foreigners/non-residents. Just something to keep in mind.

I also thought about doing a YYZ turnaround but I finally got a better option (i.e. stopover in MYC until the next trip :D).

He is, but there is 0 difference in the lines. ALL the same for everyone.

Writing from the CY lounge in LCA on the return leg of my 2nd trip.

Back-to-back at YYZ went well. AZ was late boarding and pushing back at MXP by at least 15 minutes. Touchdown in YYZ at 1410. No secondary inspection for me and I got my next boarding pass at AZ check-in before 1435. I guess I could have tolerated an hour delay but glad didn't have to sweat it.

Been posting snippets on the thread in Trip Reports so read there too.

I am one person who has still not contacted Niccolo!



DeltaFlyingProf

Try to stand by for an earlier MXP-FCO flight. I did that Tuesday 8am flight instead of scheduled 10). With bussing, lack of motivation to get flights away on time, having to reclear security and pass through passport control at FCO, your connection, if you're scheduled on the 10a flight, could be rather tight.

Lounge at FCO C gates involves a shuttle ride to the satellite and having to reclear security.

Guess we may pass each other at FCO but won't meet due to seperation.

I guess you are doing the same itinerary as I am.
The MXP-FCO flight, did you have a D seat or back in Y?
I get there on the 25th. Will you be there still? PM me how to contact you. We can have some raki (forgot the Greek name for it :) )

Note to all those doing a MXP-FCO connection or v.v. There is no D class at all on the Alitalia 321 on this route, this includes seats. They use those crazy adjustable seats so it's 3-3 all the way through. I don't think the legroom is any better either. Seriously, your best bet is to ask for row 10, the first exit row. I sat 10A and was extremely happy to be there considering the onboard craziness.

It seems the MXP-FCO flight in the morning is a major repositioning flight for AZ crews coming off-duty from CONUS flights (I saw at least 3 from my BOS-MXP flight) connecting back home to FCO. I could not for the life of me get a seat in the first 9 rows (thankfully) when I was checking in at BOS. I think these are all blocked out by AZ. When I boarded most of these seats were assigned to the returning crew. So, don't worry about it, just ask for row 10 and smile.

...Try to stand by for an earlier MXP-FCO flight. I did that Tuesday 8am flight instead of scheduled 10). With bussing, lack of motivation to get flights away on time, having to reclear security and pass through passport control at FCO, your connection, if you're scheduled on the 10a flight, could be rather tight.

Lounge at FCO C gates involves a shuttle ride to the satellite and having to reclear security....

I don't see the need to rush for an earlier flight. Plenty of time to connect in FCO even with the long wait at passport control.

Note the AZ M80s do have real BC with real BC seats (no difference in service though).

As for the MXP-FCO leg, my outbound flight was packed and pushed back 20 mins late. Gate was a bus gate at FCO so that adds some time. No queues at outbound passport control and security reclearance but why chance it?

My ECA (Eurocypria) flight did use a bus gate at FCO.


I looked at what seems to be an old guide at my Best Western hotel here in Milano (tells me the Malpensa Express costs €7.75 instead of €11). Anyway, there seems to be some indication on it of a substantial discount if one is flying AZ. DOes anyone know anything about this?

Note the AZ M80s do have real BC with real BC seats (no difference in service though).

As for the MXP-FCO leg, my outbound flight was packed and pushed back 20 mins late. Gate was a bus gate at FCO so that adds some time. No queues at outbound passport control and security reclearance but why chance it?

My ECA (Eurocypria) flight did use a bus gate at FCO.


I looked at what seems to be an old guide at my Best Western hotel here in Milano (tells me the Malpensa Express costs €7.75 instead of €11). Anyway, there seems to be some indication on it of a substantial discount if one is flying AZ. DOes anyone know anything about this?

I'm booked in D for MXP-FCO on AZ1039, but my FCO-MXP AZ1022 is in Y as I was told it is all Y. Any suggestions on how to get a J seat, even if it is Y service?

Anyone know what time checkin generally opens in YYZ?

Am spending most of my time in Croatia.

Anyone know what time checkin generally opens in YYZ?

Am spending most of my time in Croatia.
I am right now in the YYZ Maple Leaf lounge. Both the ticketing desk and the check in counters open at 1pm. Staff is efficient, though a bit cold.

I'll be returning on one of these tickets later next week (although I might try to gamble and attempt to change it :o ). Things went smoothly on the way to Italy and LCA and it's much appreciated since everything came together well and we all got to travel together without interruptions.

Amazingly enough my worst flight experiences this month have been with BA in F. :(

I am right now in the YYZ Maple Leaf lounge. Both the ticketing desk and the check in counters open at 1pm. Staff is efficient, though a bit cold.

Great. Thanks. Makes the layover easier that they open that early.

At YYZ ticket counter this week attempting to reissue tickets before checkin, the agent asked if I wanted to go to LCA, I said not really (used to go for work) and she cancelled the LCA legs. Pulled off Orbitz coupons for LCA and stapled them to YYZ-MXP and MXP-YYZ coupons. Long haul dates were changed but she didn't reissue tickets or sticker anything. Just confirmed the dates with me and said all done. Easy and done.

YYZ-MXP flight was ok...food was terrible but half the FAs were quite nice. All in all, great deal. Am in Milan now enjoying my sunday.

At YYZ ticket counter this week attempting to reissue tickets before checkin, the agent asked if I wanted to go to LCA, I said not really (used to go for work) and she cancelled the LCA legs. Pulled off Orbitz coupons for LCA and stapled them to YYZ-MXP and MXP-YYZ coupons. Long haul dates were changed but she didn't reissue tickets or sticker anything. Just confirmed the dates with me and said all done. Easy and done.

Wow, interesting... did you get any notation or speak to Nicolo prior to this? It would be nice to have that option; which from what I understand, isn't supposed to be an option.

Yes I had rebooked dates and reroutes with Nicolo, in late April I think. Had YYZ-MXP (break in Milan), MXP-LCA (one night) and then another 4 nights in Milan, then MXP-YYZ. All done with Nicolo. I understood this as the final change...no changes from then on. Haven't spoken to Nic since though I had programmed his number in my mobile just in case.

Upon checkin, agent just cancelled LCA legs upon my confirmation. Dunno what Nicolo notated in the record. The agents working the ticketing desk were aware of the deal we got. Was cordial but cool. Checkin agents were very nice.

-So..I'm traveling on Monday to TLV (EWR-YYZ-MXP-LCA-TLV) and I just want to clarify a couple of things...

-When I arrive in YYZ, will I have to clear customs? I'm arriving on CO, what is the best route to the AZ ticket counter?

-What lounge access will I have throughout the trip? My layover is in MXP & LCA. Do these lounges have showers, wireless internet?

-I need to check a bag, how many times (and where) will I have to claim it and re-check?

-On the AZ 767, do the seats have power ports?

Just a note for all, I booked my LCA-TLV through the Cyprus Airways in Queens. They were very nice and their price was actually about $50 less than anything I found online.

I do not want to turn this into a mini trip report, but my trip has taken a turn I find intersting and relating the main issue may be of use to others on the same itinerary.

My last post was made from th Maple Leaf lounge in YYZ. Boarding for MXP was on time and though felt like a zoo, we departed on time.
Service on board is the weirdest I have ever seen in C and felt like it was done by a bunch of merry amateurs. Pleasant nonetheless.
Arrival in MXP ahead of schedule, lining up for transfer again a zoo, but This Is Italy! I was supposed to do MXP FCO LCA. No problem, I have 3 h in MXP and I go to the AZ domestic lounge. Not great, but OK. The good thing is someone makes you REAL capucino or any other kind of espresso or late your heart may desire. WiFi is available at an outrageous price. There are showers, but when I asked to take one, I was told they had no kits and the supervisors had been contacted... and then the agent pointed he eyes to heavens, making me understand there was no chance on earth they would get the kits before I had to leave.
I did ask again later anyway and still no kit. A la guerre comme a la guerre, I decided to take a shower anyway. Who needs towels anyway? Thank God for hair driers. :D

When I come out of the shower, I decide to go see if my flight to FCO is about to board.
Surprise, surprise... it shows as cancelled.
Go to the desk.... and tell the agent I am on the cancelled flight and I am connecting to Larnaca.
Oh Joy! She starts working on it diligently, and the next agent has to deal with a very angry Italian who had few words I could understand... though I am not sure of the spelling, something like "Pais de m..da" :rolleyes: And more Italians come in and the crowd grows....
Anyway, the agent finds that she can send me to Athens to catch Olympics airways to LCA. However first I have to go down to get my suitcase that had been checked in and re check it in for the flight to ATH...
I went down and more angry Italians were arguing with another AZ agent... It took a while but my luggage came out with 12 minutes to spare before the departure time of my flight. Run up to the second floor, get my luggage checked in and make it to the gate/bus on time (they were a bit late I guess). I have no clue if my luggage made it.
The flight was on a MD-80 or 90 that looks like an old train, though in C it is in a 2-2 config, which makes it a bit more bearable.

There we go. Now I am in Athens and waiting for my ATH-LCA flight.

Here's a question for anyone who has a clue....
Because of the cancellation and rerouting, I am being delayed by over 3h and he flight is between 1500 and 3500km within the EU. So I am understanding that I am eligible to compensation under the new EU rules. Am I right? Or does one look at the whole trip in which case it may require more than 4h?
If it applies, it is interesting... I would like to pursue this if only for the experience. Always fun to have to deal/play with Italian bureaucracy!!!

Opinions?

Here's a question for anyone who has a clue....
Because of the cancellation and rerouting, I am being delayed by over 3h and he flight is between 1500 and 3500km within the EU. So I am understanding that I am eligible to compensation under the new EU rules. Am I right? Or does one look at the whole trip in which case it may require more than 4h?
If it applies, it is interesting... I would like to pursue this if only for the experience. Always fun to have to deal/play with Italian bureaucracy!!!

Opinions?

It all depends on exactly what the reason of the initial cancellation is. The 'exceptional causes' clause features quite prominently in the law's wording and gets pulled up by airlines in order to get out of their responsibilities as 'exceptional' isn't defined exactly anywhere.

Also - check out this thread http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=415448 (but ignore my posts which are excessively long :o :eek: ) for information on this law. I'll look into it again now, but from what I remember, you're being re-routed will satisfy many of the terms.

As long as you're being fed and getting water, you're OK.

There are plenty of times when AZ, and all the other European Airlines, including the LCCs, shrug off their responsibilities and screw pax - this really hasn't been one of them. Once you realised you needed help - they gave it to you.
Please don't invoke this law! It just makes it more difficult for the EU courts to deal with the real cases of negligence and neglect. AZ have been good to you, don't kick them now!

This is getting weirder by the hour... I have a boarding pass saying the flight is scheduled for 17:25, yet the online schedule on CY's web page says flight CY 305 departs at 15:05 on Sundays....
:eek:
Maybe I am just in a dream :(

do u have the phone number of the cyprus airways in queens?
thnx,
r

-So..I'm traveling on Monday to TLV (EWR-YYZ-MXP-LCA-TLV) and I just want to clarify a couple of things...

-When I arrive in YYZ, will I have to clear customs? I'm arriving on CO, what is the best route to the AZ ticket counter?

-What lounge access will I have throughout the trip? My layover is in MXP & LCA. Do these lounges have showers, wireless internet?

-I need to check a bag, how many times (and where) will I have to claim it and re-check?

-On the AZ 767, do the seats have power ports?

Just a note for all, I booked my LCA-TLV through the Cyprus Airways in Queens. They were very nice and their price was actually about $50 less than anything I found online.

just a quick note that might help someone
minimize accomodation cost on a quick LCA turn :
while wandering around Larnaca I saw this place
and grabbed a business card:

Harry's Inn
2 Thermopylon Street, 6022 Larnaca
Tel 357-24-654453, harrysinn@cytanet.cy.com

It is only 9 pounds a night, just one block from the beach,
but bath in hall and no AC.Looked clean and friendly though.

I will spend more and get a bath and AC, but there it is. ;)

just a quick note that might help someone
minimize accomodation cost on a quick LCA turn :
while wandering around Larnaca I saw this place
and grabbed a business card:

Harry's Inn
2 Thermopylon Street, 6022 Larnaca
Tel 357-24-654453, harrysinn@cytanet.cy.com

It is only 9 pounds a night, just one block from the beach,
but bath in hall and no AC.Looked clean and friendly though.

I will spend more and get a bath and AC, but there it is. ;)

For 10 pounds more you can stay at the Kition Hotel with ensuites, A/C and rooftop pool. Though if you want to stay in something like that I'd look into the Atrium Zenon first.

Based on everyone's experience thus far...

What is the official check-in time for AZ in Toronoto? Is it 2 or 3 hours before departure? Just want to know so I can still get on and plan my time in Toronoto accordingly.

Also, what are check-in times at MXP, FCO and LCA?

Thanks!

do u have the phone number of the cyprus airways in queens?
thnx,
r

New York
Kinisis Travel & Tours
29-13 23RD AVENUE, 2ND FLOOR ASTORIA, NY 11105
+1-718-267-6882

do u know around what u paid?
thnx,
r

New York
Kinisis Travel & Tours
29-13 23RD AVENUE, 2ND FLOOR ASTORIA, NY 11105
+1-718-267-6882

What is the official check-in time for AZ in Toronoto? Is it 2 or 3 hours before departure? Just want to know so I can still get on and plan my time in Toronoto accordingly.


From AZ's website, Toronto check-in requires 2 hours before departure.

What I'm really interested in is when the counter actually closes the checkin process. Can any FT'er who will be checking in YYZ please ask an agent for me?

Thanks!

The counter closes 120 mins. before departure according to the AZ website.

do u know around what u paid?
thnx,
r


I paid $319 all in for LCA-TLV. Travelocity and cyprus' website were both at least $50 more

Congrats on the catch. nicely done. :D

The counter closes 120 mins. before departure according to the AZ website.

I looked on AZ earlier and got the 2 hour check-in time... but couldn't find anywhere that it says it CLOSES 2 hours before departure. Can you provide the link?

I just have this:
http://www.alitaliausa.com/your_travel/in_the_airport/popup_checkin.htm

From here:
http://www.alitaliausa.com/your_travel/in_the_airport/checkin.htm

Thanks.

P.S. Of the international carriers I've flown, I don't think I've encountered one where the counter closes at most 1 hour before departure.

Looks like Can customs at T1 is pretty good between 220 and 320p. Arrived late today and though there was an AC flight from the Caribbean deplaning at the same time, lots of customs officers so no problem getting through if you're not pulled over for 2ry. Wild card is still the bus from the IFT.

I looked on AZ earlier and got the 2 hour check-in time... but couldn't find anywhere that it says it CLOSES 2 hours before departure. Can you provide the link?


I didn't stop and have a look to see if the AZ counter was still open at T-85 (in the T1 AC MLL now). Got through customs at 320p today (from MXP). I went up the elevator to departures and think I saw people still there but not 100% certain.

I looked on AZ earlier and got the 2 hour check-in time... but couldn't find anywhere that it says it CLOSES 2 hours before departure. Can you provide the link?

I just have this:
http://www.alitaliausa.com/your_travel/in_the_airport/popup_checkin.htm

From here:
http://www.alitaliausa.com/your_travel/in_the_airport/checkin.htm

Thanks.

P.S. Of the international carriers I've flown, I don't think I've encountered one where the counter closes at most 1 hour before departure.

It's a Canadian departure, so I went to the www.alitalia.ca site...;)

Check-in times at the main Alitalia airports:

Domestic Flights International Flights Intercontinental Flights
From Toronto - - 120'


http://www.alitalia.ca/ca_en/your_travel/in_the_airport/checkin.htm

You may safely presume the listed times to be the check-in cutoffs for the various cities, including YYZ. Keep in mind that AZ operates out of the Midfield Terminal, which requires a bus ride and thus necessitates an earlier cutoff than the usual 60-90 minutes.

The reason check-in closes so early is because Alitalia leaves the the infiled terminal at YYZ so they factor in the time to get there since the bus takes a while to get there from T1.

I am curious, has anyone gotten a bump on this fare yet ? If so, what did Alitalia offer ?

I am curious, has anyone gotten a bump on this fare yet ? If so, what did Alitalia offer ?

We had an involuntary bump issue on our return from MXP-YYZ several weeks ago. Arrived at MXP well in advance to check-in, only to be told that our pre-reserved seats had been given up. The agent looked quite confounded and as she was apparently outsourced and not an actual AZ agent, she called AZ to see what to do. There was lots of discussion in Italian, of which I heard the scary word "downgrade." I'm not sure if someone saw our fare or not, but sure enough, after she hung up she informed us that they told her to downgrade us and refund the fare difference (which would have been ridiculous since we would have essentially owed AZ money at that point! ;) ). I told her that wasn't an option, and she said she had to go staff a gate, and that we should go speak to an agent at an adjacent desk when she became available.

The other agent agreed that we could not be involuntarily downgraded, and instead booked us on the AZ flight to BOS in business, and gave us a FIM for an Air Canada flight from BOS-YYZ. She did not seem to like the fact that I knew about the 600 Euro involuntary denied boarding rule, but told us she couldn't handle that and we'd have to go to the AZ ticket office at the airport. We went over there, but they told us it would take at least 30 mins. to issue the vouchers (which they agreed we were entitled to, even though they certainly didn't want to), and that since our flight left in 20 mins., we should instead get the vouchers in BOS. Of course, I wanted the vouchers immediately, but I didn't want to miss the BOS flight, so we accepted this option.

Upon arrival in BOS, we went to the AZ ticket office, and they told us that only NY customer service could issue the vouchers. I figured I would deal with this through Nicolo, so we went to the AC counter only to find out that AZ hadn't booked us on the flight! Still, we had the FIM, so AC accepted it, and put us in Executive Business Class (which was actually quite good) since the FIM indicated we had been travelling in that class.

When we got home, I called Nicolo who said that the BOS ticket desk should have issued the IDB vouchers, and he called them on my behalf. An AZ agent from BOS contacted me and asked me to fax her the paper work. I did, but she told me several days later that she couldn't issue them because of the "computer glitch" fare on which I had been travelling. Nicolo (who truly was helpful, but could only do so much regarding IDB compensation) told me to send everything to customer service in NY, and we're still waiting. Hopefully, we'll get the vouchers soon, but everything seems to be "wait and see" with AZ, so I will continue to follow up! Anyone have any further suggestions on how to handle this?

We had an involuntary bump issue on our return from MXP-YYZ several weeks ago. Arrived at MXP well in advance to check-in, only to be told that our pre-reserved seats had been given up. The agent looked quite confounded and as she was apparently outsourced and not an actual AZ agent, she called AZ to see what to do. There was lots of discussion in Italian, of which I heard the scary word "downgrade." I'm not sure if someone saw our fare or not, but sure enough, after she hung up she informed us that they told her to downgrade us and refund the fare difference (which would have been ridiculous since we would have essentially owed AZ money at that point! ;) ). I told her that wasn't an option, and she said she had to go staff a gate, and that we should go speak to an agent at an adjacent desk when she became available.

The other agent agreed that we could not be involuntarily downgraded, and instead booked us on the AZ flight to BOS in business, and gave us a FIM for an Air Canada flight from BOS-YYZ. She did not seem to like the fact that I knew about the 600 Euro involuntary denied boarding rule, but told us she couldn't handle that and we'd have to go to the AZ ticket office at the airport. We went over there, but they told us it would take at least 30 mins. to issue the vouchers (which they agreed we were entitled to, even though they certainly didn't want to), and that since our flight left in 20 mins., we should instead get the vouchers in BOS. Of course, I wanted the vouchers immediately, but I didn't want to miss the BOS flight, so we accepted this option.

Upon arrival in BOS, we went to the AZ ticket office, and they told us that only NY customer service could issue the vouchers. I figured I would deal with this through Nicolo, so we went to the AC counter only to find out that AZ hadn't booked us on the flight! Still, we had the FIM, so AC accepted it, and put us in Executive Business Class (which was actually quite good) since the FIM indicated we had been travelling in that class.

When we got home, I called Nicolo who said that the BOS ticket desk should have issued the IDB vouchers, and he called them on my behalf. An AZ agent from BOS contacted me and asked me to fax her the paper work. I did, but she told me several days later that she couldn't issue them because of the "computer glitch" fare on which I had been travelling. Nicolo (who truly was helpful, but could only do so much regarding IDB compensation) told me to send everything to customer service in NY, and we're still waiting. Hopefully, we'll get the vouchers soon, but everything seems to be "wait and see" with AZ, so I will continue to follow up! Anyone have any further suggestions on how to handle this?


I think you have handled it well so far....I would only hope I would do as well in the same situation.

Please keep us informed of this situation. I am sure you won't be the only one in this situation.

I think you have handled it well so far....I would only hope I would do as well in the same situation.

Please keep us informed of this situation. I am sure you won't be the only one in this situation.

Thanks. I will be sure to update as to the final result.

I'm not sure if AZ regularly overbooks business class, or whether this was a fluke. We were originally scheduled to fly through EWR, but we changed to the MXP-YYZ direct, and Nicolo had to e-mail Rome for approval since business class was apparently already full on that flight. I know some others did this as well, so you might want to check-in early if Nicolo "forced" your itin. Also, I asked the agent in MXP how all the seats could be gone 2 hours in advance of the flight time, and she informed me that most of the passengers were only transiting MXP, and had thus received their seat assignments many hours earlier at their originating airports.

I looked on AZ earlier and got the 2 hour check-in time... but couldn't find anywhere that it says it CLOSES 2 hours before departure. Can you provide the link?

I just have this:
http://www.alitaliausa.com/your_travel/in_the_airport/popup_checkin.htm

From here:
http://www.alitaliausa.com/your_travel/in_the_airport/checkin.htm

Thanks.

P.S. Of the international carriers I've flown, I don't think I've encountered one where the counter closes at most 1 hour before departure.
I checked in for MXP-YYZ 50 minutes before scheduled departure. We ended up delayed over an hour today.

As for the discounted TLV tickets, it appears that this NY authorized agent is not charging the $25 paper ticket fee + S&H that Travelocity does.

East coast flights were a mess with delays all over the place. My CO flight YYZ-EWR was almost 2 hours late and AZ inbound was late too. YVR_Cockaroach and I had a great time in MXP and flying back. I will write up my full trip report on my final JFK-LAS flight tomorrow evening.

Thanks. I will be sure to update as to the final result.

I'm not sure if AZ regularly overbooks business class, or whether this was a fluke. We were originally scheduled to fly through EWR, but we changed to the MXP-YYZ direct, and Nicolo had to e-mail Rome for approval since business class was apparently already full on that flight. I know some others did this as well, so you might want to check-in early if Nicolo "forced" your itin. Also, I asked the agent in MXP how all the seats could be gone 2 hours in advance of the flight time, and she informed me that most of the passengers were only transiting MXP, and had thus received their seat assignments many hours earlier at their originating airports.

To be honest, I would not be shocked in the least if Alitalia has decided to essentially "ignore" the LCA bookings in computing Magnifica booking authorizations.

I searched and did not see this mentioned for Milan stopover.

Sempione Hotel, 40 Euros (single) through venere.com.
Can be cancelled until 8 days before.
This is a :-: :-: :-: hotel 500 meters from central train station.

Suggestion came from SEAUAKID while on MXP-LCA flight with me.
He may be posting a trip report soon.
Anyway, I noticed this place walking around Milan,
The price seems much better than anything else I found. ^

Is anybody flying (or has already flown) YYZ-FCO? I'm interested in hearing people's experiences with the 'new' Magnifica seats that are supposedly used on this route (764 planes)...
Thanks,
Bostonbali

Is anybody flying (or has already flown) YYZ-FCO? I'm interested in hearing people's experiences with the 'new' Magnifica seats that are supposedly used on this route (764 planes)...
Thanks,
Bostonbali
I was told by the ticketing agent in YYZ that it is a new flight starting July 1st. So nobody has flown it yet. tfjim is here with me in Cyprus and he has flown BOS-MXP which has a 764 and he says the new seats are a mechanical craziness. :D Asking him he says they are a little hard and try row one and bring your own headphones. Avoid the middle single seats, I saw how people step over them all over.

Yes, indeed this was a fantastic hotel. Newly remodeled, cheerful staff, and flat-panel tvs in every room. Very clean, breakfast included, digital climate control, and easy access to everything.


I searched and did not see this mentioned for Milan stopover.

Sempione Hotel, 40 Euros (single) through venere.com.
Can be cancelled until 8 days before.
This is a :-: :-: :-: hotel 500 meters from central train station.

Suggestion came from SEAUAKID while on MXP-LCA flight with me.
He may be posting a trip report soon.
Anyway, I noticed this place walking around Milan,
The price seems much better than anything else I found. ^

Is anybody flying (or has already flown) YYZ-FCO? I'm interested in hearing people's experiences with the 'new' Magnifica seats that are supposedly used on this route (764 planes)...


After flying YYZ-MXP-YYZ 2x last week, I am ready to try a new a/c. Just noted that my next trip out in early Sept. is routed YYZ-FCO on the outbound.

Any seat recommendations for flights with the old Magnifica seats?

Any seat recommendations for flights with the old Magnifica seats?

For a solo traveller, the middle solo seat (row 2) seems to be perfectly acceptable. Didn't have problems with being bumped (AZ carts are tiny) I sat in either 2D or 3D. 1D is a bit close to the galley and the movie screen, row 5 is too close to crying babies in the pack. I did have some air-con condensation drip in 2D on my last flight but only on descent. 1D was free so I switched to that.

AZ carries a lot of meals so it's unlikely you'll run out of your choice of pasta or main course.

Any seat recommendations for flights with the old Magnifica seats?

I don't like the bulkheads with those seats, but you will want a seat well positioned to watch the overhead screen -- if any video IFE is of interest to you. And some planes with the older seats have a single seat (i.e., 1-2-2, 2-1-2) which may or may not work to your advantage. I preferred the aisle seat on the right side of the Magnifica cabins, usually in the row one back from the bulkhead, either in the middle bank or on the right-most bank of seats. (Audio has more of an issue on the seats on the left-most bank for some reason or another that I never cared to pursue.)

I was told by the ticketing agent in YYZ that it is a new flight starting July 1st. So nobody has flown it yet. tfjim is here with me in Cyprus and he has flown BOS-MXP which has a 764 and he says the new seats are a mechanical craziness. :D Asking him he says they are a little hard and try row one and bring your own headphones. Avoid the middle single seats, I saw how people step over them all over.

Great, thanks for the advice! Hopefully more people can report back after flying this new route.
I believe I already know the answer (i.e, 'no'), but do the new Magnifica seats on the 764 have their own IFE by any chance?

Great, thanks for the advice! Hopefully more people can report back after flying this new route.
I believe I already know the answer (i.e, 'no'), but do the new Magnifica seats on the 764 have their own IFE by any chance?

From what little I've heard, AZ is supposed to be rolling out portable DVD players in the new Magnifica cabins, as the airline has apparently abandoned its plans to equip the 767s with AVOD in both cabins like the 777s.

Flight AZ652
date 27 June 2006
Milan, Malpensa >>>>>> Toronto, Pearson Itl
Scheduled time
10:40 AM 2:00 PM
Actual Time
12:30 PM 3:44 PM

hi - I don't have access to a number of websites (silly firewalls) and am hoping to impose on the kindness of flyertalk...

looking to change my FCO-LCA-FCO flight dates but want to make sure there are J seats available.

FCO-LCA on August 20 or 21
LCA-FCO on August 24 or 25

any help would really be appreciated.

From what little I've heard, AZ is supposed to be rolling out portable DVD players in the new Magnifica cabins, as the airline has apparently abandoned its plans to equip the 767s with AVOD in both cabins like the 777s.

That'd be something they could do rather quickly if they wished (and had the money), right? Cheaper too?

hi - I don't have access to a number of websites (silly firewalls) and am hoping to impose on the kindness of flyertalk...

looking to change my FCO-LCA-FCO flight dates but want to make sure there are J seats available.

FCO-LCA on August 20 or 21
LCA-FCO on August 24 or 25

any help would really be appreciated.

Out of luck on the 20th.OK on the 24th.both on the 21 and 25th no direct service in and out of FCO

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Out of luck on the 20th.OK on the 24th.both on the 21 and 25th no direct service in and out of FCO

Much appreciated thanks :)

That'd be something they could do rather quickly if they wished (and had the money), right? Cheaper too?

LOL - Alitalia doing something quickly and cheaply....

Great, thanks for the advice! Hopefully more people can report back after flying this new route.
I believe I already know the answer (i.e, 'no'), but do the new Magnifica seats on the 764 have their own IFE by any chance?

Yes ONLY the 764 (its an AZ code, they dont really have 767-400) will have PTV's in Magnifica. This summer the ONLY reconfigured plane (and right now the process is stopped) usually flies from Boston to Rome non stop.
It has the digi-players and the new lie-flat seats....
Pictures here...
http://blog.libero.it/AviatorAZ/
http://blog.libero.it/AviatorAZ/view.php?id=AviatorAZ&pag=14&gg=0&mm=0
(The last link scroll down to the bottom)

Yes ONLY the 764 (its an AZ code, they dont really have 767-400) will have PTV's in Magnifica. This summer the ONLY reconfigured plane (and right now the process is stopped) usually flies from Boston to Rome non stop.
It has the digi-players and the new lie-flat seats....
Pictures here...
http://blog.libero.it/AviatorAZ/
http://blog.libero.it/AviatorAZ/view.php?id=AviatorAZ&pag=14&gg=0&mm=0
(The last link scroll down to the bottom)

Is it just me, or does the AZ 764 seat look just like the new AA "Flat" seat in white leather?

Yes ONLY the 764 (its an AZ code, they dont really have 767-400) will have PTV's in Magnifica. This summer the ONLY reconfigured plane (and right now the process is stopped) usually flies from Boston to Rome non stop.
It has the digi-players and the new lie-flat seats....
Pictures here...
http://blog.libero.it/AviatorAZ/
http://blog.libero.it/AviatorAZ/view.php?id=AviatorAZ&pag=14&gg=0&mm=0
(The last link scroll down to the bottom)

Thanks for the pictures. ^

Is the 764 seating and in-flight entertainment the same as is offered on the 777?

Thanks for the pictures. ^

Is the 764 seating and in-flight entertainment the same as is offered on the 777?

No - the 764 uses a flat-but-not-level seat (vs. a sleeper seat on the 777), and has a DigEPlayer in J instead of the 777's AVOD in both cabins.

Yes ONLY the 764 (its an AZ code, they dont really have 767-400) will have PTV's in Magnifica. This summer the ONLY reconfigured plane (and right now the process is stopped) usually flies from Boston to Rome non stop.
It has the digi-players and the new lie-flat seats....
Pictures here...
http://blog.libero.it/AviatorAZ/
http://blog.libero.it/AviatorAZ/view.php?id=AviatorAZ&pag=14&gg=0&mm=0
(The last link scroll down to the bottom)

Didn't someone here report that YYZ-FCO had the reconfigured 764? We're flying both YYZ-FCO and FCO-BOS on our LCA trip, so I guess we're lucky either way.

I am going YYZ-MXP-LCA tomorrow, June 29. Anybody else going tomorrrow? I will be returning MXP-YYZ 0n July 11, 2006. Wii report back on my experience.

would it be unadviseable for me to fly into yyz the morning of my flight out to fco? I'm planning on arriving at either 9am or 9:30am, and my flight out of yyz is at 4:30pm. assuming I check in 2.5 hours before, I want to arrive by 2pm. obviously no one can say for sure, but given the circumstances would you take the bet, or just get in the night before? seems like getting to downtown toronto from the airport takes a long time, any tips on a good/cheap place to stay (assuming I don't stay in the airport) that's got some sights to see as well? there's a bus from yyz to north toronto, so I could get there easily.

would it be unadviseable for me to fly into yyz the morning of my flight out to fco? I'm planning on arriving at either 9am or 9:30am, and my flight out of yyz is at 4:30pm. assuming I check in 2.5 hours before, I want to arrive by 2pm. obviously no one can say for sure, but given the circumstances would you take the bet, or just get in the night before? seems like getting to downtown toronto from the airport takes a long time, any tips on a good/cheap place to stay (assuming I don't stay in the airport) that's got some sights to see as well? there's a bus from yyz to north toronto, so I could get there easily.


I took this bet, and am flying from LAX-ORD-YYZ arriving at 9:30ishA.
Crossing my fingers that there are no problems. Was more concerned with
my return, as AZ is often late into YYZ, and I have a 4:30p return same day to LAX. AA said it was a legal connection. So.... we'll see.

Since the connecting flight is on a different ticket, there is no legal/illegal connection issue here.

Was more concerned with
my return, as AZ is often late into YYZ, and I have a 4:30p return same day to LAX. AA said it was a legal connection. So.... we'll see.

would it be unadviseable for me to fly into yyz the morning of my flight out to fco? I'm planning on arriving at either 9am or 9:30am, and my flight out of yyz is at 4:30pm. assuming I check in 2.5 hours before, I want to arrive by 2pm. obviously no one can say for sure, but given the circumstances would you take the bet, or just get in the night before? seems like getting to downtown toronto from the airport takes a long time, any tips on a good/cheap place to stay (assuming I don't stay in the airport) that's got some sights to see as well? there's a bus from yyz to north toronto, so I could get there easily.

I'd strongly suggest coming in the day before and using priceline to get a good downtown hotel for $55-65 USD/night. IMHO, it's just not worth risking the loss of the trip to do otherwise.

Has anyone on the LCA trips taken Jet Blue recently from JFK to BUF and then bus to YYZ airport???
Is there a direct bus from BUF airport to YYZ airport?
Also - how are the immigration lines now?
How long is it taking to get into YYZ?

Fares in Aug still past the $350 from NYC. Anyone got any thoughts?

Also - we are planning to cross into turkish Cyprus on the trip and then boat to Turkey. Has anyone done this?

Has anyone on the LCA trips taken Jet Blue recently from JFK to BUF and then bus to YYZ airport???
Is there a direct bus from BUF airport to YYZ airport?
Also - how are the immigration lines now?
How long is it taking to get into YYZ?

Fares in Aug still past the $350 from NYC. Anyone got any thoughts?

Also - we are planning to cross into turkish Cyprus on the trip and then boat to Turkey. Has anyone done this?

There is a bus from downtown buffalo - costs around $20-30 bucks and takes about 3.5-4 hours, depending on border crossing and Canadian highway delays.

I'd strongly suggest coming in the day before and using priceline to get a good downtown hotel for $55-65 USD/night. IMHO, it's just not worth risking the loss of the trip to do otherwise. I booked for the night before, to be sure. FYI I Pricelined the YYZ Renaissance for $43. Definitely more relaxing that way.

would it be unadviseable for me to fly into yyz the morning of my flight out to fco? I'm planning on arriving at either 9am or 9:30am, and my flight out of yyz is at 4:30pm. assuming I check in 2.5 hours before, I want to arrive by 2pm. obviously no one can say for sure, but given the circumstances would you take the bet, or just get in the night before? seems like getting to downtown toronto from the airport takes a long time, any tips on a good/cheap place to stay (assuming I don't stay in the airport) that's got some sights to see as well? there's a bus from yyz to north toronto, so I could get there easily.

A few pages ago, I wrote that I spoke to Nicolo about this. Basically, if you miss your flight, your screwed: no rebooking on next flight, no nothing. At best, Nicolo will just refund your money but you'll loose your trip, hotel deposits, money and time spent to go to YYZ, etc.

Again not worth it, consider it a $50 insurance by spending that money at a hotel for the night before.

I will be in Larnaca for one night with 2 friends on the 16th of August. Has anyone stayed at a hotel they would recommend? Is it easy to get to the hotel from the airport and get around the city?

I haven't seen much about any experience there yet.

Thanks!

Also - we are planning to cross into turkish Cyprus on the trip and then boat to Turkey. Has anyone done this?

Not recommended as the (Greek) Cypriots won't let you back in if you don't re-enter the Greek zone the same day you go into N. Cyprus. Only way you are going to be able to accomplish this is if you have 2 passports (one for the 1st set of Cyprus entry/exit stamps, and entry into Northern Cyprus and Turkey - other for the re-entry into Larnaca), and don't re-enter Cyprus directly from North Cyprus.

I was just told by the turkish cyprus consul that you CAN cross over as long as you enter and exit Cyprus through Larnaca airport - which we will.
Also - we do actually have 2 passports each so prob will do that as a precaution.
tks

would it be unadviseable for me to fly into yyz the morning of my flight out to fco? I'm planning on arriving at either 9am or 9:30am, and my flight out of yyz is at 4:30pm. assuming I check in 2.5 hours before, I want to arrive by 2pm. obviously no one can say for sure, but given the circumstances would you take the bet, or just get in the night before? seems like getting to downtown toronto from the airport takes a long time, any tips on a good/cheap place to stay (assuming I don't stay in the airport) that's got some sights to see as well? there's a bus from yyz to north toronto, so I could get there easily.

I'm flying into YYZ directly from WAS the morning of my YYZ-MXP flight. I'm arriving at YYZ at 10:50AM. My flight to MXP is at 5:05PM.

I figured checkout time would have been around noon anyway. If that's not good enough, I just wasn't meant for Cyprus. :)

A few pages ago, I wrote that I spoke to Nicolo about this. Basically, if you miss your flight, your screwed: no rebooking on next flight, no nothing. At best, Nicolo will just refund your money but you'll loose your trip, hotel deposits, money and time spent to go to YYZ, etc.

Assuming you didn't make any changes and miss your flights on your original trip dates, you whould still be able to make your single change, no?

Proximity to YYZ would have to come into play on whether to overnight or not. Direct flight vs. a connection via busy hubs along with what day of the week their YYZ departure is would make my determination. Personally after reading all the ORD horror stories, even an early connection would be a scary idea to myself but I'm not a ORD regular.

So we will be on DL for the first time in a while and are taking the early morning Friday direct flight from CVG at 8:00am with a second flight leaving at 10:55am just in case something goes awry. Now watch it be AZ have the problem that leave people stranded in YYZ waiting on them.

A few pages ago, I wrote that I spoke to Nicolo about this. Basically, if you miss your flight, your screwed: no rebooking on next flight, no nothing. At best, Nicolo will just refund your money but you'll loose your trip, hotel deposits, money and time spent to go to YYZ, etc.


I recall either you or Beaubo mentioned that if there were any delays caused on an AZ flight, then they would re-accommodate. So for those who are crazy/stupid enough to do a back to back (i.e. me), wouldn't a late MXP-YYZ flight on AZ causing a missed flight for the new YYZ-LCA-YYZ trip mean that they would still have to accommodate me on the next flight to MXP?

Not recommended as the (Greek) Cypriots won't let you back in if you don't re-enter the Greek zone the same day you go into N. Cyprus. Only way you are going to be able to accomplish this is if you have 2 passports (one for the 1st set of Cyprus entry/exit stamps, and entry into Northern Cyprus and Turkey - other for the re-entry into Larnaca), and don't re-enter Cyprus directly from North Cyprus.

This is outdated information. When the Turkish Cypriot authorities opened the previously closed roads between the two sides in April 2003, both sides at first tried to enforce a sort of "Cinderella" rule where everyone had to be back home by midnight. This did not last long. Today you can walk or drive (via at least four crossings) back and forth across the border as you wish.

Greek Cypriot rental car companies will tell you that you cannot take rental cars into the Turkish sector. In fact, no one is stopping you and there are kiosks at the border selling car insurance for your time in the north. (How reputable these outfits are I do not know.) It is true, so far as I know, that you cannot bring a Turkish Cypriot rental vehicle across the border to the south. (But regular Turkish Cypriot vehicles have no problem.)

Today there is no practical reason not to enjoy both sectors of Cyprus, and you do not need two passports to do this.

I recall either you or Beaubo mentioned that if there were any delays caused on an AZ flight, then they would re-accommodate. So for those who are crazy/stupid enough to do a back to back (i.e. me), wouldn't a late MXP-YYZ flight on AZ causing a missed flight for the new YYZ-LCA-YYZ trip mean that they would still have to accommodate me on the next flight to MXP?

If there is a delay from an AZ flight, re-accomodation will happen.

I recall either you or Beaubo mentioned that if there were any delays caused on an AZ flight, then they would re-accommodate. So for those who are crazy/stupid enough to do a back to back (i.e. me), wouldn't a late MXP-YYZ flight on AZ causing a missed flight for the new YYZ-LCA-YYZ trip mean that they would still have to accommodate me on the next flight to MXP?

I saw that two and was hoping that AZ would be that liberal (was I the first to do a back-to-back?) Since the 2nd ticket is seperate from the 1st, AZ isn't required to accomodate you. Let's hope they are. p.s. I noted yesterday's inbound was late by almost 2 hours and the outbound was late by an hour.

I was lucky that my incoming flight was delayed only by 10 minutes.

This is outdated information. When the Turkish Cypriot authorities opened the previously closed roads between the two sides in April 2003, both sides at first tried to enforce a sort of "Cinderella" rule where everyone had to be back home by midnight. This did not last long. Today you can walk or drive (via at least four crossings) back and forth across the border as you wish.


Good to know. The tourist propaganda in Cyprus still implies that you can't stay on the Turkish side overnight.


Greek Cypriot rental car companies will tell you that you cannot take rental cars into the Turkish sector. In fact, no one is stopping you and there are kiosks at the border selling car insurance for your time in the north. (How reputable these outfits are I do not know.) It is true, so far as I know, that you cannot bring a Turkish Cypriot rental vehicle across the border to the south. (But regular Turkish Cypriot vehicles have no problem.)

Today there is no practical reason not to enjoy both sectors of Cyprus, and you do not need two passports to do this.

Just want to know if you have personally done this? I go again in September and actually plan to stay in Cyprus more than just overnight this time!

Doh.. we were rebooked in economy on the LCA-MXP return leg when I changed my dates, (AZ had zeroe'd out D-buckets), but now it is showing D4 on our return date. :(

What are the checked baggage weight limitations for Alitalia and the Alitalia-coded, Cyprus-operated flights? What about carry-on baggage?

I'm will be checking a bag with some fairly heavy dive equipment and don't want to get hit with a huge surcharge at the airport. I assume that the Cyprus operated flights might ordinarily have a pretty restrictive limit, but I'm hoping that since they are Alitalia-coded and are part of an international itinerary that they will be more generous.

What are the checked baggage weight limitations for Alitalia and the Alitalia-coded, Cyprus-operated flights? What about carry-on baggage?

I'm will be checking a bag with some fairly heavy dive equipment and don't want to get hit with a huge surcharge at the airport. I assume that the Cyprus operated flights might ordinarily have a pretty restrictive limit, but I'm hoping that since they are Alitalia-coded and are part of an international itinerary that they will be more generous.

I have had mixed experiences with european airlines and their weight limits. Sometimes it simply depends on who is checking you in...

The allowance for Magnifica Class passengers on journeys to/from Canada is two bags, each of which is no larger than 158 cm (l+w+h) and not heavier than 32kgs, as per the Alitalia Summer 2006 timetable. By IATA agreement, the special US/Canada allowance applies for all flights on the ticket, including those operated by Cyprus Airways.

The allowance for Magnifica Class passengers on journeys to/from Canada is two bags, each of which is no larger than 158 cm (l+w+h) and not heavier than 32kgs, as per the Alitalia Summer 2006 timetable. By IATA agreement, the special US/Canada allowance applies for all flights on the ticket, including those operated by Cyprus Airways.

Thank you. I should have no problem meeting this limit.

Would you happen to have a link or something I can print out in case of a dispute?

Good to know. The tourist propaganda in Cyprus still implies that you can't stay on the Turkish side overnight.



Just want to know if you have personally done this? I go again in September and actually plan to stay in Cyprus more than just overnight this time!

No, I have not yet personally done this (but in October will be dividing my ten days in Cyprus equally between north and south).

My information comes from

Rough Guide to Cyprus published September 2005

Lonely Planet Cyprus published June 2006, both of which emphasize the dramatic changes in the border situation since 2003,

and confirmed by conversations with a British friend whose father has a retirement home in North Cyprus.

That's interesting that Cyprus tourist propaganda still tells folks they can't go north for more than a daytrip. But tourist boards all over the world discourage you from leaving and going next door, wherever next door might be. :)

Thank you. I should have no problem meeting this limit.

Would you happen to have a link or something I can print out in case of a dispute?

Unfortunately, the applicable baggage links are broken on the AZ webpage - your best bet might be to find someone with access to a GDS and get a printout of the rules from the AZ profile. Otherwise, get an AZ timetable from an ATO or CTO.

Ohioflyer,
My buddy and I will be arriving lca on Oct 13th and departing on oct 19th. Give me a holler if you will be in the Med. at the same time would like to hang out for a drink or two. ciao, for now dan

hey guys, a quick question pls.

I have not had a chance to modify my dates yet (yeah, i know but urgent family matters took precedence) and after going over the first few pages I still dont seem to find Nicolos' email albeit i do remember seeing a forward from beaubo with Nicolos' response to FT.

Can someone please give me a hand?

thanks in advance,

a

1st page of the thread.All relevant info is gathered in GUWonder's post #4,IIRC.Good luck!before calling Niccolo,check availability online!

I have been checking my NWA.com for any posting of miles on a daily basis. While none of my outbound flights have posted for credit, one of my return segements has appeared:
Date Flight Class Paid/Flown Description of Mileage Credit Code
25JUN2006 AZ 0652 C/D MXP - YYZ Q

Clicking on code Q yeilds the classic NWA popup which states:

Code Definition for Mileage Activity:
Q - Pending internal processing.

I will keep you all updated when this changes. Just in case, I kept all my boarding pass stubs and ticket receipts. I know others have gotten NWA miles without incident, but I may be the exception to the rule. YMMV

I will be in Larnaca for one night with 2 friends on the 16th of August. Has anyone stayed at a hotel they would recommend? Is it easy to get to the hotel from the airport and get around the city?

I haven't seen much about any experience there yet.

Thanks!

Hilton Park Nicosia
Griva Dighenis Avenue, Nicosia, Cyprus 1507
Tel: +357-22-695111 Fax: +357-22-351918

As a HH Gold, I got a bottle of wine, cheese plate, and huge room upgrade with a double balcony; the only disappointment was the 13" TV and lack of free internet. The pool is huge and the weightroom/sauna was nicely equipped. Breakfast was excellent too! Staff treated me like a true VIP the entire stay.

I accidently drove to other Hilton and it looked nice too. The hotels are 45 minutes by car from the airport, but great locations.

Your paper ticket should confirm your baggage allowance limit! No need to print out anything.

Thank you. I should have no problem meeting this limit.

Would you happen to have a link or something I can print out in case of a dispute?

Your paper ticket should confirm your baggage allowance limit! No need to print out anything.

It doesn't - all it says is "PC2", noting the fact that 2 pieces of baggage are permitted.

That is what is meant i.e. 2 pieces of baggage ... otherwise it would say something like 20kg or 30 kg depending on class of service i.e. max total weight of all pieces should be 20/30 kilos (approx. 44/66 pounds) or less

It doesn't - all it says is "PC2", noting the fact that 2 pieces of baggage are permitted.