In the FT community opinion, do I need to send Nicolo my tickets after all or should I be ok to travel? I will not be near another AZ ticket office until my day of travel, June 17. What should I do?


I would send the tickets to Nic and have them reissued.

I spoke to Nicolo on the 16th and got my my date change completed. I inquired as to AZ MIA ticket hours and was told they are open 11:00 - 16:00 at MIA M-F. This morning, I fly in to MIA on CO and go to the ticket counter at 11:20 and there is no one there. I call RES and am told that they should have opened at 11:00. At 11:40, an employee walks to the back room and another pax asks him in Italian what time they will open. He responds 12:30. I guess 11:00 AZ = 12:30 Eastern time :rolleyes:

I am the 1st pax helped at 12:30. I inform the agent that my ticket is properly notated and that I am here to complete my date change. All she does is print me out on computer paper a copy of my revised itinerary. She also advises me that I can have no further date changes which I accept.

I again ask for my tickets to be reissued/stickered. She goes to the back to double check and comes back out again saying that this is all I need.

Below is the contents of the printout:
xxxxxx (Confirmation Number)
1. 1MYLASTNAME/MYFIRSTNAME
1 AZ 653 D 17JUN YYZMXP HK1 E 1705-6 0725-6 J-D FLIFO
2 AZ 1019 Y 18JUN MXPFCO HK1 E 1010-7 1130-7 Y-Y FLIFO
3 AZ 7700 D 18JUN FCOLCA HK1 1230-7 1630-7 C-D FLIFO
4 AZ 7707 Y 24JUN LCAMXP HK1 0940-6 1235-6 Y-Y FLIFO
5 AZ 652 D 25JUN MXPYYZ HK1 E 1040-7 1400-7 J-D FLIFO
HA FAX-1 OSI AZ CTCT 701 280 5683 Ixxxxx0 ORBITZ (looks like an Orbitz tracking code)
2 OSI AZ CTCH my phone number
3 OSI AZ my ticket number
4 OSI AZ my ticket number
5 OSI AZ CTCT 701280583 Ixxxxx0 ORBITZ (looks like an Orbitz tracking code)
6 OSI AZ CTCH my phone number
GEN FAX-1 OSI YY BF33.00 TX155.14 TF188.14 PADTFSR
2 SSROTHS1P/// .MEAL NOT PROVIDED
3 SSROTHS1P/// .CNCL AS INVALID FARE..6APR
4 SSROTHS1P/// .CNCL AS INVALID FARE..6APR
5 SSROTHS1P/// .PLS CANCEL HX/NO/UC/UN AIR SEGMENTS
RMKS-1 SPLIT DTE CHG NOT PERMITTED----17APR06 NYCAZ3C
2 PAX WILL HAVE TKT REISSUED AT MIAKSAZ-16MAY04 NYCAZ3C
3 PAX ADVSD DATE IS FINAL----16MAY06 NYCAZ3C

In the FT community opinion, do I need to send Nicolo my tickets after all or should I be ok to travel? I will not be near another AZ ticket office until my day of travel, June 17. What should I do?

Meal not provided?

Meal not provided?

I guess it refers to flight # 2.MXP-FCO where there's no meal served.Only drinks and pretzels or the like.

No one has suggested getting stickered after confirming a change with Nicolo, on the day of your flight. Either go to your local AZ ATO wellin advance of your flight. Or if you are not in an AZ market, send your ticket to Nicolo to get stickered.

Waiting to the flight date to get stickered is asking for trouble, especially since Nicolo has been specifically desiganated as the FT go-to-guy.

I have my Original Tickets that I booked with Orbitz way back when and have no changes to be made at all. Do I still need to get them stickered or will it be fine if I just show up at YYZ ready for my vacation :rolleyes:

Thanks

Based on your YYZ-MXP-LAC itin.....
* date changes OK
* stopovers OK

* dropping LCA either direction not OK
* routing changes not OK

Didn't mean to come across sounding terse!! Anyhow, most thorough info indeed on page 1, 3rd post I think!


no, no......thank you so much for the help, I honestly probably should have looked a little more first just with so much info.....agh!!!

Thanks again :)

Checked Baggage
Cyprus Airways allows a free allowance of checked baggage which does not exceed 20 kgs for passengers travelling in the Economy Class and 30 kgs for passengers travelling in Business Class. Infants traveling on a 10% fare are entitled a free allowance of 10 Kgs.


Im going for a month so I will be taking two bags. Hopefully two bags on all segments will be ok. I hate to travel so heavy.

Checked Baggage
Cyprus Airways allows a free allowance of checked baggage which does not exceed 20 kgs for passengers travelling in the Economy Class and 30 kgs for passengers travelling in Business Class.The rules you quoted are not applicable to these tickets.

The 2 PC x 32 KG baggage allowance will apply instead:
http://www.Alitalia.ca/ca_en/information/baggage/information/popup_allowance.htm

So here is a question, hopefully someone can answer...

I bought these Business Class tickets (D Fare Class), but Nicolo put me in Y on the CY segments (my paper tickets still show D Fare Class, but Y seating).

Question: will I still earn 200% EQMs with AZ for these CY flights even though I am not sitting in F?

Thanks in advance for any insight.

Dear UCSBCHRIS2002,

We need to speak with you regarding your reservation. Please contact
CheapTickets immediately at 1.888.922.8849.


Did anyone else get this? I guess it is time to change my ticket with Nicolo!

Another Question:

I currently have Sept. 1st LCA-MXP
Sept. 2nd MXP-FCO-YYZ

Is it possible to change the MXP-FCO to Sept. 1st and have FCO-YYZ on Sept. 2nd?? I have a short connection and I want to fix it.

Based on your YYZ-MXP-LAC itin.....
* date changes OK
* stopovers OK

* dropping LCA either direction not OK
* routing changes not OK

Didn't mean to come across sounding terse!! Anyhow, most thorough info indeed on page 1, 3rd post I think!

It's the post -- credit goes to beaubo, rcs, HeathrowGuy, peatisback, and many others (pardon me if I've left off a name) -- that is activated when clicking on my "signature" at the bottom of all my posts currently. (Look for the first post on the first page attributed to GUWonder in this thread.)

beaubo, perhaps you could kindly add it to your signature too?

So here is a question, hopefully someone can answer...

I bought these Business Class tickets (D Fare Class), but Nicolo put me in Y on the CY segments (my paper tickets still show D Fare Class, but Y seating).

Question: will I still earn 200% EQMs with AZ for these CY flights even though I am not sitting in F?

Thanks in advance for any insight.

Hmmm. My re-issued tickets show both Y seating and Y fare basis for the LCA segments. Since you basically agreed to sitting in Y for those segments, you can't make the case for earning J COS on a voluntary downgrade. I guess we'll find out once someone gets their FFP statement after flying. But, keep your hopes down!

first time posting on this thread but I've been following it intensely.

my story
I was one of the lucky 500 to actaully book and get ticket #'s on this deal. I booked through Orbitz.
Of course, when the ticket showed as cancelled I paniced and called to find out what was going on. Was told AZ wasn't honouring the tickets and they'd be happy to do a complimentary cancellation for me - basically told there were no other options available. so, I went along with it. You can imagine my dismay when I heard AZ would honour bookings that had recieved ticket #'s!

I called Orbitz imediately and quietly insisted that I should be reinstated. after being passed from person to person, being placed on hold while different parties discussed the situation, I was told that yes, we will do that for you. yippee!! Now, that was back in early April and week after week I've called to inquire as to where my tickets are, why ticket numbers aren't showing up on orbitz, etc. and was always told "we're busy", "we'll get to it", "you're not traveling until August".

Last week I called and after being passed from person to person (including being misunderstood and being transfered to UPS!), I was told, you should hear from us in June - JUNE! crazy.

All that, and then, miraculously, the ticket numbers reappeared on Orbitz and on Friday when I arrived home from work, there was a UPS package waiting for me!

My Thanks
Thank you flyertalk folks for the original post alerting me to the sale and then to all the subsequent posts that encouraged me to fight the good fight to press on to get the tickets reinstated. without this kid of a deal, i figure it would be another 3 or more years before I'd get to visit europe - and now, I get to do it in style!

My Questions
I did another read through and a quick search becuase I thought the answers to these couple of questions would be somewhere in the 6000+ posts, but I couldn't readily find the answers:

My tickets say seat assignments will be made upon check-in - if I call Nic, will he be able to assign seats? (I'm marginally concerned if we don't have seat assignments, we'll end up in economy)
What would be the best reward program to use for the milage accumulation? I'm in Canada and 99% of my travelling is solely in North America - Should I use AZ? or would NWA or Continental be better suited to me? ( I know there was a disucssion on this but, as I'm new to this, I'm more than a little confused)


Again, thank you to all who've posted their stories and advice - it's really helped me!

first time posting on this thread but I've been following it intensely.

my story
I was one of the lucky 500 to actaully book and get ticket #'s on this deal. I booked through Orbitz.
Of course, when the ticket showed as cancelled I paniced and called to find out what was going on. Was told AZ wasn't honouring the tickets and they'd be happy to do a complimentary cancellation for me - basically told there were no other options available. so, I went along with it. You can imagine my dismay when I heard AZ would honour bookings that had recieved ticket #'s!

I called Orbitz imediately and quietly insisted that I should be reinstated. after being passed from person to person, being placed on hold while different parties discussed the situation, I was told that yes, we will do that for you. yippee!! Now, that was back in early April and week after week I've called to inquire as to where my tickets are, why ticket numbers aren't showing up on orbitz, etc. and was always told "we're busy", "we'll get to it", "you're not traveling until August".

Last week I called and after being passed from person to person (including being misunderstood and being transfered to UPS!), I was told, you should hear from us in June - JUNE! crazy.

All that, and then, miraculously, the ticket numbers reappeared on Orbitz and on Friday when I arrived home from work, there was a UPS package waiting for me!

My Thanks
Thank you flyertalk folks for the original post alerting me to the sale and then to all the subsequent posts that encouraged me to fight the good fight to press on to get the tickets reinstated. without this kid of a deal, i figure it would be another 3 or more years before I'd get to visit europe - and now, I get to do it in style!

My Questions
I did another read through and a quick search becuase I thought the answers to these couple of questions would be somewhere in the 6000+ posts, but I couldn't readily find the answers:

My tickets say seat assignments will be made upon check-in - if I call Nic, will he be able to assign seats? (I'm marginally concerned if we don't have seat assignments, we'll end up in economy)
What would be the best reward program to use for the milage accumulation? I'm in Canada and 99% of my travelling is solely in North America - Should I use AZ? or would NWA or Continental be better suited to me? ( I know there was a disucssion on this but, as I'm new to this, I'm more than a little confused)


Again, thank you to all who've posted their stories and advice - it's really helped me!

For seat assignments call the regular Alitalia toll-free number. (No need to bury our AZ angel with routine matters like that which are better and faster handled by AZ reps at the call centers.)

You won't lose your seat in biz just because you don't have seat assignments. And in any event, seat assignments are not a guarantee that you get your seat assignment with any airline. If they are oversold in business, you will be provided rich compensation like any other normal biz-fare passenger. Enjoy your trip and don't worry about it.

About the frequent flyer miles, I can only say I'd not use CO's program and would go for AZ's, DL's, NW's programs first.

Any word yet on interlining at JFK from AA to Alitalia? What are the odds AA at YYZ will issue ongoing boarding passes for a JFK-FCO segment? (I say very small, but I'd like to confirm my suspicions.)

Please don't flame me. I would really like to avoid the AA YYZ-JFK segment and just fly out of JFK but I'm fully willing to do so if I have to. But if AA isn't going to issue me an AZ boarding pass at YYZ then it's a good bet the YYZ-JFK segment could be avoided and saving me buying a oneway to YYZ.

Opinions?

(Before I get a stream of people telling me how the rest of my itinerary could be cancelled because I missed the first segment let me say I understand fully that concept.)

EWR - YYZ is pricing at $337 all in on Travelocity, that is $100 cheaper than CO.com or Orbitz. Not a bad fare, all things considered. United has similar prices.

Anyone know if CO has a price match policy/ guarantee? I did a cursory review CO.com and no luck finding anything.

Yes, and a one way LGA-YYZ on Air Canada is coming in around $160 priced at various sites.

if AA isn't going to issue me an AZ boarding pass at YYZ then it's a good bet the YYZ-JFK segment could be avoided and saving me buying a oneway to YYZ.
Whether AA can issue AZ boarding passes is beside the point, more than once I've asked an agent not to check me all the way through on a connecting itinerary without difficulty.

The question you're really asking is, "If I pull the first flight coupon from the ticket myself and present myself at JFK for checkin, will AZ know that I haven't flown the YYZ-JFK segment?"

The fare rules certainly require you to fly the segment, you know the risks from not flying the segment, etc. So your purely technical question is, will AZ be aware of whether you've flown the segment or not?

I thinki I know the answer to this, but since my knowledge on the subject is far from perfect or up-to-date I suppose I'll shut up and wait for someone who knows the answer to better educate you..!

Any word yet on interlining at JFK from AA to Alitalia? What are the odds AA at YYZ will issue ongoing boarding passes for a JFK-FCO segment? (I say very small, but I'd like to confirm my suspicions.)

(Before I get a stream of people telling me how the rest of my itinerary could be cancelled because I missed the first segment let me say I understand fully that concept.)

starting in jfk is not a possibility, not 'very small', not even remote! if you attempt, your ticket will be, not 'could' be cancelled. not worth the risk.

fly safe..from yyz!!! ;)

Hmmm. My re-issued tickets show both Y seating and Y fare basis for the LCA segments. Since you basically agreed to sitting in Y for those segments, you can't make the case for earning J COS on a voluntary downgrade. I guess we'll find out once someone gets their FFP statement after flying. But, keep your hopes down!


I'm hoping the fare basis makes the difference.

And interestingly, some of the tickets I bought (family) say D class (in addition to fare basis) on the MXP-LCA, LCA-FCO segments; even though Nicolo said we would all be in Y.

does anyone know if there is a min. stay in lca?

could someone do a same day turnaround back out to milan or rome?

thanks :)

starting in jfk is not a possibility, not 'very small', not even remote! if you attempt, your ticket will be, not 'could' be cancelled. not worth the risk.

fly safe..from yyz!!! ;)

:cool: Um, you guys really are no fun. :D

Look, I'll take your advice to heart and be safe but to be honest I think most well-seasoned FT'ers really do know the reality of the situation and that with a carrier change such as this that the chances of onward cancellation are exceedingly small. Perhaps you have some experience in this type of situation, but the airlines have enough trouble knowing what goes on during their own flights, much less an interline connection at a huge airport like JFK. I'm not entirely certain that your fairly absolute attitude towards the situation is merited.

does anyone know if there is a min. stay in lca?

could someone do a same day turnaround back out to milan or rome?

thanks :)
Looks to me like the LCA-FCO/MXP flights all leave before the FCO/MXP-LCA flights arrive. So a same-day turn at LCA would not be possible.

Presumably same aircraft flights LCA-FCO/MXP and then returns to LCA. Since you're going to be starting out on the aircraft's return flight you're not going to be able to get back to Italy same day.

One night minimum stay is going to be required in LCA, not as a function of the fare rules but as a function of schedules. (And remember that FCO/MXP-LCA and v.v. does not operate daily, so depending on which day you fly you could wind up there for more than a day... bear this in mind also when booking nested tickets to CAI, TLV, etc..)

Just spoke to Nicolo and I got all the changes that I wanted. :) Sending out tickets today

does anyone know if there is a min. stay in lca?

could someone do a same day turnaround back out to milan or rome?


There is no minimum stay requirement, but you'll be forced to overnight due to the schedule. Fwiw, my original ticket doesn't even allow a stopover in LCA because I booked a turnaround in less than 24 hours (i.e., YYZ-xFCO-xLCA-oMXP-YYZ).

:cool: Um, you guys really are no fun. :D

Look, I'll take your advice to heart and be safe but to be honest I think most well-seasoned FT'ers really do know the reality of the situation and that with a carrier change such as this that the chances of onward cancellation are exceedingly small. Perhaps you have some experience in this type of situation, but the airlines have enough trouble knowing what goes on during their own flights, much less an interline connection at a huge airport like JFK. I'm not entirely certain that your fairly absolute attitude towards the situation is merited.

Sorry if I came across a bit too stern!!!

I think that it pays to be prudent and not attempt your leaving ex-JFK instead of ex-YYZ for two reasons.

1. Any AZ agent who pulls up your record at JFK will see all the notations about the 'mistake fare', 'one change only', 'no re-routes', etc. and I am quite confident that you will not be given the benefit of the doubt for not having started in YYZ. These tickets have 'red flag' written all over them!!!!

2. If you are successful on leaving ex-JFK< you still run the risk that AZ catches the oversight in their post-flight audit, and conceivably they could try and charge you based on a re-price out of JFK, which ain't $33!!! Since you didn't have an involuntary reason for missing the YYZ-JFK flight, you'd have little defense against a retroactive reprice. Admittedly, this is a remote possibility.

Overall, you have seen how crazy this situation was before Nicolo was injected into the process. Once he;s gone, I would expect similar craziness from AZ if you (or ANYONE) tries to do anything that is different than what is printed on their ticket.

Again, I'm not trying to play cop or conscience or spoilsport; I just think we should savor this opportunity as is, and not try and push the limits beyond whatever success you've had with Nicolo on your one time change.

Whatever you decide, fly safe.......from YYZ (or JFK)

1) Nobody seems to know whether any date changes after departure are possible. Is it safe to say they are not?

2) Anyone have suggestions about a cheap way to get to DXB? Flights seem to be in the $500 range from LCA even though Emirates had a direct flight.

Thanks for any insight!

Beaubo,
A quick question for you as I see you are online and very knowledgable and helpful.
I booked my tickets way back when with everyone else, I have received the paper tickets from Orbitz and want to keep exactly what I have....No Changes at all!!!
Will I be ok to just show up at YYZ with my tickets in hand in July?

Thanks

Beaubo,
A quick question for you as I see you are online and very knowledgable and helpful.
I booked my tickets way back when with everyone else, I have received the paper tickets from Orbitz and want to keep exactly what I have....No Changes at all!!!
Will I be ok to just show up at YYZ with my tickets in hand in July?

Thanks

Still call Nicolo just to make sure that AZ didn't cancel your tickets. There is apparently some kind of 'communication' problem bw Orbitz and AZ Software, that might (very unlikely) have Orbitz showing confirmed and AZ showing cancelled. Should be a painless safeguard to call Nic just to be sure that you are good to go!!

I booked my tickets way back when with everyone else, I have received the paper tickets from Orbitz and want to keep exactly what I have....No Changes at all!!!
Will I be ok to just show up at YYZ with my tickets in hand in July?

Probably provided that you Orbitz itinerary online continues to match your paper tickets.

But to be safe, there would be absolutely no harm in contacting Mr. Cimilluca. He can e-mail you a confirmation of your flights which should give you total peace of mind.

Dear UCSBCHRIS2002,

We need to speak with you regarding your reservation. Please contact
CheapTickets immediately at 1.888.922.8849.


Did anyone else get this? I guess it is time to change my ticket with Nicolo!


I got that email last night and just called--I was told they'd "love to help me but the system is being updated so please call back in 15 minutes". :rolleyes:

I'll call back in a bit just because I don't want them monkeying around my reservation in any way.

Sorry if I came across a bit too stern!!!

I think that it pays to be prudent and not attempt your leaving ex-JFK instead of ex-YYZ for two reasons.

1.....
2......

...

Again, I'm not trying to play cop or conscience or spoilsport; I just think we should savor this opportunity as is, and not try and push the limits beyond whatever success you've had with Nicolo on your one time change.

Whatever you decide, fly safe.......from YYZ (or JFK)

Your points are very well presented, thanks, that's very sound advice. I haven't had any changes to my itinerary and so no need to talk to Nicolo thus far. Thanks for taking the time to make some very valid arguments!! ^

BTW, have we had any reports yet now that May 23 has arrived??? I leave in just a few weeks.

Your points are very well presented, thanks, that's very sound advice. I haven't had any changes to my itinerary and so no need to talk to Nicolo thus far. Thanks for taking the time to make some very valid arguments!! .

Just to be safe, please consider calling Nicolo just to make sure that AZ didn't make any changes/deletions to your itin that your online TA might not have been aware of. Again, very remote possibility. But well worth the dime to call Nic and get firsthand confirmation that your existing itin is good to go!

I got that email last night and just called--I was told they'd "love to help me but the system is being updated so please call back in 15 minutes". :rolleyes:

I'll call back in a bit just because I don't want them monkeying around my reservation in any way.

Anything CT does with your res will be TRUMPED by what Nicolo does. So,, call Nic first and get your desired changes, THEN call CT and have them delete all unwanted segments.

Anything CT does with your res will be TRUMPED by what Nicolo does. So,, call Nic first and get your desired changes, THEN call CT and have them delete all unwanted segments.


I found something strange on My Trips on Cheap Tickets. For some reason on the Cheap Tickets website most of my flights are all on one day Aug 3rd. When I go to Galileo Viewtrip website it shows the correct days but for some reason CT has it all lumped together on one day. Does anyone else have the same thing show up on CT website?? It is some kind of error and when I call will they have the correct dates or will I have to tell them to add segments to different days??

Overall, you have seen how crazy this situation was before Nicolo was injected into the process. Once he;s gone, I would expect similar craziness from AZ if you (or ANYONE) tries to do anything that is different than what is printed on their ticket.

"Once he's gone"? I hope that you are just saying that he will get back to routine work after this is sorted out and that's when he's gone from this process.

I found something strange on My Trips on Cheap Tickets. For some reason on the Cheap Tickets website most of my flights are all on one day Aug 3rd. When I go to Galileo Viewtrip website it shows the correct days but for some reason CT has it all lumped together on one day. Does anyone else have the same thing show up on CT website?? It is some kind of error and when I call will they have the correct dates or will I have to tell them to add segments to different days??

The date changes you made with Nicolo should appear on your CT itin along with any other extraneous segments that you did not authorize. You just filter out the incorrect dates and have CT leave your revised dates intact. If you just made your changes with Nicolo, then it won't show up on CT for about 48 hours. If its already been 48 hrs and still no revised itin has shown up on CT, call Nicolo.

"Once he's gone"? I hope that you are just saying that he will get back to routine work after this is sorted out and that's when he's gone from this process.

Right, I mean gone back to his regularly scheduled programming as a tariff analyst, not FT Troubleshooter!

If anyone's driving whilst in Cyprus and would like a map, check out this thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5825428#post5825428post5825428) I started in the S.P.A.M forum.

I got a Rough Guide map for $1.90 including tax and delivery.

Figured more than a few of us would be interested.

My tickets were re-issued by AZ, CT has been left out of it completely... I did call them per Nicolo's suggestion to tell them my flights, but they haven't updated their file with my new flights :rolleyes:

What locator are folks using to see their reservations on viewtrip? The AZ one?

If anyone's driving whilst in Cyprus and would like a map, check out this thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5825428#post5825428post5825428) I started in the S.P.A.M forum.

I got a Rough Guide map for $1.90 including tax and delivery.

Figured more than a few of us would be interested.

Thanks! I will order one of those. I do think we are renting a car to see all the sights.

If anyone's driving whilst in Cyprus and would like a map, check out this thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5825428#post5825428post5825428) I started in the S.P.A.M forum.

I got a Rough Guide map for $1.90 including tax and delivery.

Figured more than a few of us would be interested.

THANKS SO MUCH. GOT MINE FOR 1.75 INCL T/D.

The date changes you made with Nicolo should appear on your CT itin along with any other extraneous segments that you did not authorize. You just filter out the incorrect dates and have CT leave your revised dates intact. If you just made your changes with Nicolo, then it won't show up on CT for about 48 hours. If its already been 48 hrs and still no revised itin has shown up on CT, call Nicolo.

The segments show up but for some reason they are all lumped into Aug 3rd.


Some of these flights were my original flights and others are my new flights but the date has changed. Some of these flights are for July 27th, Aug 31st but they are all lumped under August 3rd.

The segments show up but for some reason they are all lumped into Aug 3rd


Some of these flights were my original flights and others are my new flights but the date has changed. Some of these flights are for July 27th, Aug 31st but they are all lumped under August 3rd.

definitely perplexing. sounds like you should call nicolo and have him contact ct to correct things.

definitely perplexing. sounds like you should call nicolo and have him contact ct to correct things.


Yeah it is really strange. When I go to Galileo Viewtrip it shows the correct dates for the segments so I wonder if the website is just messed up and CT really has the correct dates.

For everyone with Orbitz itins -

I made my changes this morning with Nicolo. Got what I wanted and had no problems there. Per his instructions, "contact Orbitz and have them cancel the unwanted segments." I did just that, first got transferred from the idiot help desk to the international specialist. He insisted he couldn't do what I was asking for and I gave him Nicolo's number. We finally had a conference call (all 3 of us) and the unwanted segments were finally cancelled.

To verify you're "unwanted" segments are cancelled, on Orbitz at least, is to view your itinerary and make sure the ONLY flights listed are the ones you intend to take. In my case, I changed my return from August 8th to August 9th with 5 days in Milan - so in my case all the flights on August 8th are no longer visible.

Goodluck!

Yeah it is really strange. When I go to Galileo Viewtrip it shows the correct dates for the segments so I wonder if the website is just messed up and CT really has the correct dates.

The final status of your ticket is dependent on AZ. So, if you have a re-booked paper ticket from Nic, you are definitely good to go. Deleting unwanted segments from CT, Orbitz, etc. is really a formality to eliminate potential confusion of multiple itins popping up on the 'My Views' of CT, Orbitz. Again, Nic can conference calll with you to CT, if helpful.

Just what I wanted to hear. I prefer to not deal with CT, and bother Nic with trying to eliminate segements, if it doesn't matter.

Thanks.
T

Just what I wanted to hear. I prefer to not deal with CT, and bother Nic with trying to eliminate segements, if it doesn't matter.

Thanks.
T

Ditto. As long as there's no detriment to having the segment there, I won't bother. Orbitz made it clear to most that they wouldn't do anything, and that anything to do with these tix would need to be done by AZ, and AZ has done what's needed.

The final status of your ticket is dependent on AZ. So, if you have a re-booked paper ticket from Nic, you are definitely good to go. Deleting unwanted segments from CT, Orbitz, etc. is really a formality to eliminate potential confusion of multiple itins popping up on the 'My Views' of CT, Orbitz. Again, Nic can conference calll with you to CT, if helpful.

Made changes with Nicolo and sent him my Cheaptickets ticket last week. And today I received the final printed ticket from him. So I dont care what viewtrip or cheaptickets show. I am flying on that Alitalia issued ticket. I will be flying YYZ-MXP-LCA-MXP-YYZ on June 30 returning July 5th with stopover in MXP (Tuscany side trip). Wishing everyone a nice trip.

Hi,

I have 3 paper tickets but Orbitz never show up my itn (after the tkt was cancelled by them).

Should I bother with Orbitz?

aad665

Hi,

I have 3 paper tickets but Orbitz never show up my itn (after the tkt was cancelled by them).

Should I bother?

aad665

Of course.. if you have paper tickets.. cal Nicolo and deal with him directly.

For everyone with Orbitz itins -

I made my changes this morning with Nicolo. Got what I wanted and had no problems there. Per his instructions, "contact Orbitz and have them cancel the unwanted segments." I did just that, first got transferred from the idiot help desk to the international specialist. He insisted he couldn't do what I was asking for and I gave him Nicolo's number. We finally had a conference call (all 3 of us) and the unwanted segments were finally cancelled.

To verify you're "unwanted" segments are cancelled, on Orbitz at least, is to view your itinerary and make sure the ONLY flights listed are the ones you intend to take. In my case, I changed my return from August 8th to August 9th with 5 days in Milan - so in my case all the flights on August 8th are no longer visible.

Goodluck!

Is there a reason to contact orbitz at all when you have your new tickets in hand from Alitalia?

Is there a reason to contact orbitz at all when you have your new tickets in hand from Alitalia?

I'm not contacting Orbitz at all. When these sort of things happened to me before, the airline always trumps the travel agent and the travel agents can only mess up things. :)

When you have your new reservations from Nicollo you definitely SHOULD contact Orbitz to have them remove the old, cancelled flights from their system.

Orbitz has been going through and cancelling changes made by Nicollo. You don't want them to do that. You'll wind up at the airport with no reservation at all. Or, even if caught in time, there may no longer be availability on your flights.

Once you make changes via Nicollo, Orbitz will display BOTH sets of flights in your itinerary. You do NOT want this situation to persist. And apparently the only way to fix it is a call to Orbitz.

I went through one of those calls myself this morning. No problems at all.

Rang up the Orbitz VIP phone #, so no waiting on hold. Got someone on the line, explained that I had made changes to the flight with Alitalia but the old flights still appeared in the Orbitz system and that these old flights needed to be removed.

After being put on hold the task was accomplished without difficulty, all in all no more than 6-7 minutes.

And well worth the effort.

I called CT and waited about 20 mins and then took about 10 mins to go over the changes with my itinerary. The agent told me I would receive an email with my current itinerary and the changes should show up within 24hours. I have not received the email but I hope that she did what we went over.

When I called CT to get my extra segments deleted they used the term "passively deleting" the segments. This might be of some help if you get stuck with a rep that has no idea what your talking about. My changes showed up immediately on viewtrip.com.

When I called CT to get my extra segments deleted they used the term "passively deleting" the segments. This might be of some help if you get stuck with a rep that has no idea what your talking about. My changes showed up immediately on viewtrip.com.


So after you spoke to CT on viewtrip.com all the unwanted segments were deleted?? When I go to Viewtrip.com all the segments that I wanted deleted are still showing up. :confused:

So after you spoke to CT on viewtrip.com all the unwanted segments were deleted?? When I go to Viewtrip.com all the segments that I wanted deleted are still showing up. :confused:

Ask for a supervisor, and request that the unwanted segments be passively deleted from their system.

I made my changes with Nic, and had tickets reissued at IAD. Based on the previous few posts, decided to check My Trips in Orbitz in preparation to call to discard unwanted segment. Orbitz shows two YYZ-MXP flight bookings on Nov. 18, each booked in economy. Nic HAD booked YYZ-MXP in economy, but corrected it and emailed new itin. Tix issued show D.

Do I need to be concerned with what Orbitz shows in this case? My tickets and res. in AZ's system show D. Just wondering. Don't want to prompt orbitz to do something to screw this up by cancelling the wrong one.

thanks.

Ultimately all that matters is what's in AZ's system, the part about passively cancelling segments is so that Orbitz/Cheaptickets/etc. don't go about messing with segments in AZ's system that you are planning to fly.

If you have a flight correct in AZ's system and all that is wrong on the Orbitz side is the class of service then you probably don't need to tell Orbitz to do anything -- but I'd ask Nicollo!

I called CT and waited about 20 mins and then took about 10 mins to go over the changes with my itinerary. The agent told me I would receive an email with my current itinerary and the changes should show up within 24hours. I have not received the email but I hope that she did what we went over.

I spoke with CT they were clueless - woman didn't know what I was talking about. No changes on viewtrip nor on the CT show up. I did speak to Nicolo and he said I was good, so no idea here

Well, I called Nicolo in the early afternoon, and was surprised to actually talk to him instead of the voice mail.

I wanted a two day stopover for the family to check out Rome. Only coach tickets available LCA-FCO, no biggie there. However, Nicolo said I *had* to ditch the FCO-BOS-YYZ if I wanted to change the LCA-FCO portions. I had to be routed FCO-MXP-YYZ, with a fairly early morning departure, but I guess that's the price you pay for having a stopover. At least we'll get into Toronto at a decent hour.

I'll still have to wait 2 weeks before I can change my other ticket (to an early April 2007), as those dates aren't loaded in the computer yet.

I just told CT that changes were made by Alitalia and they were showing outdated segments and the agent made a note "Not to touch reservation" as changes were made by the carrier.. about a week or two later, correct segments appeared on viewtrip and CT.

So one thing is for sure.. if you take no action, you wont see changes on CT or viewtrip right away.

For those of us who have accepted economy class seating on one or both of the LCA-Italy segments because the "D" bucket has been zeroed out, will we be able to waitlist for business class seating on those flights and/or claim a business class seat if Alitalia adjusts the "D" inventory to reflect "D1" or more in the future?

So i purchased the business class fare on Alitalia from toronto to Cyprus with orbitz.com. I received the confirmation page and confirmation number stating that my flight was reserved. Orbitz charges my credit card for 60 some odd dollars (I am assuming that do that with the initial credit card charge) and then immediatly refunded the money when they found out about the fare error. Aparently, they did this before they issued my paper tickets.

I called Orbitz to say i did not want a refund, i want them to honor my reservation and they said that I have to contact Alitalia as they are ones that cancelled my ticket reservation. I called Nicolo with Alitalia and he said since they never issued my tickets, I have no claim with either Alitalia or Orbitz. Is this true? Am I simply out of luck?

This does not see fair as I do not want a refund, never requested a refund, and I had recieved the standard confirmation page with the "keep this for your records" command. If i am in fact out of luck, what the heck is the point of the confirmation page?

ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!

If tickets were issued, you're fine.

If no tickets were issued, you're not traveling.

Whether you received the tickets or not ought to be beside the point (though it complicates matters). The question is, do you have (in any of your emails/correspondence) ticket numbers?

Well, I called Nicolo in the early afternoon, and was surprised to actually talk to him instead of the voice mail.

I wanted a two day stopover for the family to check out Rome. Only coach tickets available LCA-FCO, no biggie there. However, Nicolo said I *had* to ditch the FCO-BOS-YYZ if I wanted to change the LCA-FCO portions. I had to be routed FCO-MXP-YYZ, with a fairly early morning departure, but I guess that's the price you pay for having a stopover. At least we'll get into Toronto at a decent hour.



Did you already have routing through FCO? I would like to see if I can change my routing to YYZ-FCO and add a Rome stopover. I believe some people have had success doing this, but thought I would check before calling Nicolo tomorrow.

What I have:
8/8: YYZ-MXP-LCA
8/12: LCA-MXP
8/16: MXP-YYZ

What I'd like:

8/6: YYZ-FCO
8/9: FCO-LCA
8/12: LCA-MXP
8/18: MXP-YYZ

Is this asking too much? My mom mentioned she's really like to see Rome if possible, and extending the return date works better as well for what we want to do in Tuscany/Provence. Will this fly with Nicolo?

What I have:
8/8: YYZ-MXP-LCA
8/12: LCA-MXP
8/16: MXP-YYZ

What I'd like:

8/6: YYZ-FCO
8/9: FCO-LCA
8/12: LCA-MXP
8/18: MXP-YYZ


This is precisely what I had pre-Nicolo, and precisely what I changed to post-Nicolo. I had to have backup dates available, as one FCO-LCA segment was unavailable on the date I wanted to fly. Because of the schedule, I'd recommend having a plan A and plan B.

Did you already have routing through FCO? I would like to see if I can change my routing to YYZ-FCO and add a Rome stopover. I believe some people have had success doing this, but thought I would check before calling Nicolo tomorrow.

What I have:
8/8: YYZ-MXP-LCA
8/12: LCA-MXP
8/16: MXP-YYZ

What I'd like:

8/6: YYZ-FCO
8/9: FCO-LCA
8/12: LCA-MXP
8/18: MXP-YYZ

Is this asking too much? My mom mentioned she's really like to see Rome if possible, and extending the return date works better as well for what we want to do in Tuscany/Provence. Will this fly with Nicolo?

I think this will be okay. Be prepared to lose your Business class segments to LCA, though. And remember that once you change them, it's supposed to be set in stone.

So did someone travel on this today? No posting from the lounge or from a wireless device?

So did someone travel on this today? No posting from the lounge or from a wireless device?
There's at least one FTer going this weekend. ^

What I have:
8/8: YYZ-MXP-LCA
8/12: LCA-MXP
8/16: MXP-YYZ

What I'd like:

8/6: YYZ-FCO
8/9: FCO-LCA
8/12: LCA-MXP
8/18: MXP-YYZ

This routing is perfectly acceptable, but availability is going to be difficult.

8/6 YYZ-FCO -- shows D4 ^

8/9 FCO-LCA -- there's no FCO-LCA non-stop on Wed, so you'd have to go FCO-MXP-LCA (or FCO-LIN/MXP-LCA, etc). But the AZ codeshare MXP-LCA flight is showing sold out. :td: Can you head to LCA on 8/8? If so, you can keep your current MXP-LCA segment and add FCO-MXP..

8/12: LCA-MXP -- fortunately you already have this segment, so you get to keep it... ^

8/18: MXP-YYZ -- shows D7 ^

So the only issue is going to be getting to Cyprus... easiest if you can keep the segment you already have on 8/8.

Availability for certain date ranges this summer is very tight -- even in coach -- for the AZ codeshare.

I think this will be okay. Be prepared to lose your Business class segments to LCA, though. And remember that once you change them, it's supposed to be set in stone.

This is precisely what I had pre-Nicolo, and precisely what I changed to post-Nicolo. I had to have backup dates available, as one FCO-LCA segment was unavailable on the date I wanted to fly. Because of the schedule, I'd recommend having a plan A and plan B.

Thanks guys. ^ :D I'll put together a back up plan and call Nicolo tomorrow.

There's at least one FTer going this weekend. ^
I expect full details young man.

finally called nicolo, got a date change + stopover, no problems whatsoever. looks like the only hard part is going to be waiting 3 months for the trip :rolleyes:

I expect full details young man.
I'm not that FTer :o

But I PMd yesterday with the person who is. And he promises an update.

I'm not that FTer :o

But I PMd yesterday with the person who is. And he promises an update.

You shouldn't have gotten me so excited. :) Thanks for the follow up.

If tickets were issued, you're fine.

If no tickets were issued, you're not traveling.

Whether you received the tickets or not ought to be beside the point (though it complicates matters). The question is, do you have (in any of your emails/correspondence) ticket numbers?


Thanks Gleff for responding, I really appreciate it. When i received the confirmation page after booking on orbitz it said next to my ticket numbers: "Pending" or "not yet issued", or something to that effect. So it looks like I am out of luck. Sigh...maybe next time....

Wednesday at 4:45 pm I called Nicolo and left a message. He called back in 15 minutes and asked what changes I wanted. He made the changes pretty close to what I was requesting.
I made an appiontment to meet him in his office on Thursday. What a nice office Alitalia has (Empire State building 47th floor)! In less than 15 minutes he had new tickets for us on Alitalia stock :)

Original tickets:
YYZ-MXP-LCA (D)
LCA-MXP-YYZ (Y) (nasty 23 hr layover in MXP)

New changes:
YYZ-FCO, (D) 5 days in Rome
FCO-LCA, (Y) 3 days on Cyprus
LCA-MXP, (Y) (via FCO) 3 days in MXP
MXP-YYZ (D)

Definitely not a MR but what a great 12th anniversary for me and Mrs Clincher ^ ^
As a thank you, he accepted some Italian cookies by saying, "That was not necesary!" As others have observed a "nice guy"

any changes result in losing business class to on the cyprus airlines lca segment? :p

I think this will be okay. Be prepared to lose your Business class segments to LCA, though. And remember that once you change them, it's supposed to be set in stone.

any changes result in losing business class to on the cyprus airlines lca segment? :p

Well, we'll see if it's *every* ticket when I change my last one, but every date I checked had no business class inventory. Could be all the seats are gone, they zeroed them out to save some money, or something else.

Well, we'll see if it's *every* ticket when I change my last one, but every date I checked had no business class inventory. Could be all the seats are gone, they zeroed them out to save some money, or something else.

Nicolo told me that AZ zeroed out the "D" inventory temporarily to protect space on everyone's original itinerary so that nobody who had business class originally on the Italy/LCA segments would lose out on their seat due to another person rebooking on their travel date. ^

However, it now appears that AZ is deliberately leaving keeping things at "D0" so it can rebook us all in economy (and presumably save money) if we choose to change dates. :td:

As I asked a couple of pages ago, I wonder if will we be able to waitlist for business class seating on those flights and/or claim a business class seat if Alitalia adjusts the "D" inventory to reflect "D1" or more in the future. I doubt it given the "no changes" policy for those of us who have received a date change, but it seems that, in theory, we should be entitled to that business class space if it is released prior to departure.

so i am booked in y on fco-lca and in d lca-fcp (didn't notice until after i had purchased)...the chance of me switching that intial y to d is close to zip then?


Nicolo told me that AZ zeroed out the "D" inventory temporarily to protect space on everyone's original itinerary so that nobody who had business class originally on the Italy/LCA segments would lose out on their seat due to another person rebooking on their travel date. ^

However, it now appears that AZ is deliberately leaving keeping things at "D0" so it can rebook us all in economy (and presumably save money) if we choose to change dates. :td:

As I asked a couple of pages ago, I wonder if will we be able to waitlist for business class seating on those flights and/or claim a business class seat if Alitalia adjusts the "D" inventory to reflect "D1" or more in the future. I doubt it given the "no changes" policy for those of us who have received a date change, but it seems that, in theory, we should be entitled to that business class space if it is released prior to departure.

any changes result in losing business class to on the cyprus airlines lca segment? :p


I think so. I haven't seen anyone on here who kept their D class after changing their ticket around. Someone even commmented that it was showing D2 or D3 and they still were given a Y class assignment.

I spoke to CT again today to try and correct what was showing on their website. CT finally contacted Alitalia after she was just confused and I was told that not to worry about what shows on the CT website. She said that Alitalia shows me confirmed and that is all that matters.

I think so. I haven't seen anyone on here who kept their D class after changing their ticket around. Someone even commmented that it was showing D2 or D3 and they still were given a Y class assignment.

We're only talking the YYZ/MXP-LCY segments about people being put back in economy, right? No one's been booted out of the TATL D segments into coach, have they?

any changes result in losing business class to on the cyprus airlines lca segment? :p
No.

I have definitely found D inventory on the AZ codeshares to/from LCA.

But it is scarce during July/August/September.

We're only talking the YYZ/MXP-LCY segments about people being put back in economy, right? No one's been booted out of the TATL D segments into coach, have they?
No one is being booted out of business class on any segment where D inventory is available. You're certainly not going to be forced to fly YYZ-FCO/MXP in coach when discount business inventory is available.

If you choose a flight that has no D inventory then you'll have to fly coach (provided that coach is available, of course).

And I *have* changed tickets and retained business class Italy to Cyprus....

No one is being booted out of business class on any segment where D inventory is available. You're certainly not going to be forced to fly YYZ-FCO/MXP in coach when discount business inventory is available.

If you choose a flight that has no D inventory then you'll have to fly coach (provided that coach is available, of course).

And I *have* changed tickets and retained business class Italy to Cyprus....


I believe those of us who got orrignally ticketed in Y on the MXP (FCO) -LCA and back are screwed though. Nicolo mentioned that he could not change those to D even though the tickets are D class but segment in Y. :td:

And I *have* changed tickets and retained business class Italy to Cyprus....

As did I ^

Glad I made the changes when I did.

I believe those of us who got orrignally ticketed in Y on the MXP (FCO) -LCA and back are screwed though. Nicolo mentioned that he could not change those to D even though the tickets are D class but segment in Y. :td:
That's correct, if you were originally ticketed in Y then you will only be rebooked in Y.

That's correct, if you were originally ticketed in Y then you will only be rebooked in Y.

It was possible early on, but probably not now. My Y LCA segments were changed to D one way and I the other way before they clamped down on dropping segments.

I think so. I haven't seen anyone on here who kept their D class after changing their ticket around. Someone even commmented that it was showing D2 or D3 and they still were given a Y class assignment.

I kept my D class on LCA-FCO, and was even MOVED from Y to D on MXP-LCA on my new dates of travel - I firmly but politely insisted on this when I dealt with AZ YYZ/NYC and acceded to the new fare rule terms.

The actual time-in-the-air from MXP/FCO-LAC is approx. 3 hours. While D would be nice, keep in mind on most intra-Europe flights, Business Class seat quality, pitch and configuration, as well as in-flight service are really only marginally better than Coach Class. Basically, you are in FRONT of the curtain instead of behind it!!!!!!!!!

And CY has not received any exemplary raves from the airline industry or consumer feedback sites like http://www.airlinequality.com/Forum/cyprus.htm

So, enJoy J on the TATL portions!!!

When you have your new reservations from Nicollo you definitely SHOULD contact Orbitz to have them remove the old, cancelled flights from their system.

Orbitz has been going through and cancelling changes made by Nicollo. You don't want them to do that. You'll wind up at the airport with no reservation at all. Or, even if caught in time, there may no longer be availability on your flights.

Once you make changes via Nicollo, Orbitz will display BOTH sets of flights in your itinerary. You do NOT want this situation to persist. And apparently the only way to fix it is a call to Orbitz.

I went through one of those calls myself this morning. No problems at all.
.

I tried this yesterday - went through 4 people, including supervisor and
international desk. All of them refused to remove the extra segments,
so on their system I still have: YYZ-FCO, YYZ-FCO next day, FCO-LCA,
FCO-LCA 2 days later, etc, etc.

I finally gave up and hung up after over an hour - they acknowledge that
what they have in their system is impossible, but they will not change.

I'll rely on AZ's system.

I believe those of us who got orrignally ticketed in Y on the MXP (FCO) -LCA and back are screwed though. Nicolo mentioned that he could not change those to D even though the tickets are D class but segment in Y. :td:

Nicolo told me the same thing. My original booking was YYZ-MXP in D class, then MXP-LCA in Y. My revised itinerary has me going YYZ-FCO in D, and FCO-LCA in Y. I asked whether I could upgrade to D should that class become available for the FCO-LCA flight, and was told no, since I was originally booked in Y for that segment...
My return flight (LCA-FCO) was preserved in D, since my original booking was LCA-MXP in D. Our flight is in early September.

Looks like 3/24 is the last date in the AZ schedule. Any idea when 3/25 will open up?

I tried this yesterday - went through 4 people, including supervisor and
international desk. All of them refused to remove the extra segments,
so on their system I still have: YYZ-FCO, YYZ-FCO next day, FCO-LCA,
FCO-LCA 2 days later, etc, etc.

I finally gave up and hung up after over an hour - they acknowledge that
what they have in their system is impossible, but they will not change.

I'll rely on AZ's system.

Call Nicolo and have him conference call with Orbitz.

From this morning's Wall Street Journal... (excerpted to respect WSJ © and FT TOS... (Emphasis mine.)



Got 50 Bucks? Fly to Fiji

A look inside the world of obsessive Web watchers who pounce on fare errors

S****** M*******, a 37-year-old lawyer at Microsoft near Seattle, was thrilled recently to find a mistaken fare online for flights to Europe -- just $33 plus taxes. He quickly booked trips for himself and his wife in July, August and Thanksgiving week. The catch: The flights are to Larnaca, Cyprus. From Toronto.

"I just figure we'll get to Toronto somehow," Mr. M****** says. He and his wife plan to be on Long Island, N.Y., in mid-July anyway, so what's a slight detour to the Mediterranean via Canada? Mr. M****** knows little about Larnaca, but as he's hoping to take at least two of the trips they've booked, he'll be getting to know it well.

For Mr. M****** and a cadre of other hard-core travel bargain-hunters on the Internet, the journey mainly is about saving breathtaking amounts of money -- never mind the destination. Mr. M****** found his Cyprus deal on a travelers' Web site called FlyerTalk.com, where he saw a message that Italian airline Alitalia was offering "wickedly low" business-class fares on the route.

There's a loose network of obsessives who keep apprised of prices not just on mainstream travel sites like Travelocity, but also on a growing number of other sites that specialize in detecting "unusual" prices across the Web. Many are mistakes, from a round-trip Los Angeles-to-Fiji excursion for $51 to a Holiday Inn resort room in Thailand for three cents a night....

...The online epicenter of travel-deal discovery is FlyerTalk, a sort of methadone clinic for frequent-flyer and hotel-stay program addicts. In its highly trafficked message forums, users exchange tips, strategies, news of the latest travel promotions, and the best ways to achieve and maintain "elite" status in various programs. They also pass along reports of pricing errors....

From this morning's Wall Street Journal... (excerpted to respect WSJ © and FT TOS... (Emphasis mine.)

Get ready for the onslaught of newbies looking for bargains!

So did anyone travel on these this weekend? Any details?

For anyone who needs a way to get to toronto, aa has posted their discount awards for the citicard (17.5k for the RT if u have the plat MC, if you dont have it, u can get 20k miles free, first yr free, with the card):
http://www.citibank.com/us/cards/cardserv/worldcard/globe.jsp

also, anyone have any idea how to get from lca to s africa for cheap? travelocity was showing egyptair from lca to jnb for like 900 when i booked the yyz-lca tik, but now nothing comes up from lca to jnb with a flexible dates search at all...lca to cai comes up, but then cai to jnb doesnt come up...any ideas? anyone know a good cypriot or egyptian travel agent?

thnx,
r

I'm starting up Sabre to see what I can find for you. What dates are you looking at?

...rebooked my flight at AZ ticket desk at YYZ....no problems...went to Orbitz ...showed no reservation at all so I assumed I was off their system...now this weekend I go to get my car reservation off Orbitz and my original itinerary has returned!!! So now what...do i just call Orbitz and have it cancelled...should I call AZ....my plane leaves friday and i thought all was well and good until today...so what am I to do? Please help! :confused:

...rebooked my flight at AZ ticket desk at YYZ....no problems...went to Orbitz ...showed no reservation at all so I assumed I was off their system...now this weekend I go to get my car reservation off Orbitz and my original itinerary has returned!!! So now what...do i just call Orbitz and have it cancelled...should I call AZ....my plane leaves friday and i thought all was well and good until today...so what am I to do? Please help! :confused:

Hmm, that is unusual.

You actually have three options, depending on how motivated and/or paranoid you are feeling!!!!!

1. Since your original itin, NOT your revised itin is showing up on Orbitz, there is no risk that Orbitz will mess with your reservation because as far as Orbitz can tell, you don't have any duplicate or conflicting itins. So, you could just do nothing.

2. Your revised itin really should be showing up on Orbitz, so its possible it could pop back up sometime before your trip. If that happens, there is an increased risk that Orbitz could try and mess around with your itin.
So, you could check Orbitz daily. If the revised itin doesn't show up, you are OK. If it does show up, then call Orbitz to have the original itin deleted.

3. Call Nicolo 212-903-3571 and have him conference call with Orbitz to make sure that they have the SAME info as AZ. This is the most effort and most effective.

Good luck! Travel safe.

Hmm, that is unusual.

You actually have three options, depending on how motivated and/or paranoid you are feeling!!!!!

1. Since your original itin, NOT your revised itin is showing up on Orbitz, there is no risk that Orbitz will mess with your reservation because as far as Orbitz can tell, you don't have any duplicate or conflicting itins. So, you could just do nothing.

2. Your revised itin really should be showing up on Orbitz, so its possible it could pop back up sometime before your trip. If that happens, there is an increased risk that Orbitz could try and mess around with your itin.
So, you could check Orbitz daily. If the revised itin doesn't show up, you are OK. If it does show up, then call Orbitz to have the original itin deleted.

3. Call Nicolo 212-903-3571 and have him conference call with Orbitz to make sure that they have the SAME info as AZ. This is the most effort and most effective.

Good luck! Travel safe.
...I called orbitz and they said it was no problem that I cahnged my itin. with AZ it should have no effect , but just in case I will call Nicolo on Tuesday just in case....Cheers homer ^

Get ready for the onslaught of newbies looking for bargains!

As opposed to those of you born knowing this stuff? I'm no newbie to travel, or even this site (though I had to re-register because I'd forgotten my old username/password) -- and I hardly feel like an interloper just because I generally don't like to pay full price. And I've dug up a bargain or two in my day. Who knows -- maybe you'll learn something from me one of these days?

Have received my boarding pass and ready to fly out from YYZ-MXP.

More info on trip report.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=563259

As opposed to those of you born knowing this stuff? I'm no newbie to travel, or even this site (though I had to re-register because I'd forgotten my old username/password) -- and I hardly feel like an interloper just because I generally don't like to pay full price. And I've dug up a bargain or two in my day. Who knows -- maybe you'll learn something from me one of these days?

Welcome back.

wow...so there is a (slim) possibility :D


I kept my D class on LCA-FCO, and was even MOVED from Y to D on MXP-LCA on my new dates of travel - I firmly but politely insisted on this when I dealt with AZ YYZ/NYC and acceded to the new fare rule terms.

probably right about there not being a huge difference between J and D....it is the principle! lol

The actual time-in-the-air from MXP/FCO-LAC is approx. 3 hours. While D would be nice, keep in mind on most intra-Europe flights, Business Class seat quality, pitch and configuration, as well as in-flight service are really only marginally better than Coach Class. Basically, you are in FRONT of the curtain instead of behind it!!!!!!!!!

And CY has not received any exemplary raves from the airline industry or consumer feedback sites like http://www.airlinequality.com/Forum/cyprus.htm

So, enJoy J on the TATL portions!!!

Looks like 3/24 is the last date in the AZ schedule. Any idea when 3/25 will open up?

If you're looking to take it to the limit (April 5th), you've got two more weeks to wait.

AAnd I've dug up a bargain or two in my day. Who knows -- maybe you'll learn something from me one of these days?

Let's hope so! The main thing is that after a USA Today article, or other exposure in the media, there is usually 2 weeks of, "I want my $33 ticket, are there any today"? They don't realize that this, er, hobby, takes a lot of work, and to be up on the deals, you need to check online at least 2-3 times a day.

I know that often, when I'm flying for 20 or more hours and offline, I will miss some good deals.

I know that often, when I'm flying for 20 or more hours and offline, I will miss some good deals.Yep, I missed dropping LCA segments on this deal because I was transiting back from BKK. But worst of all was when I missed the BA $20 WT+ flights because I was on the beach in PVR on the MX $55+tax business class glitch and not checking online. :eek:

I hadn't gotten around to contacting Nicolo about the fact that my new itinerary (changed by Mr. Pepe) never appeared at Orbitz/Mytripandmore. But sometime in the last couple of days, the new segments were added and the old and wrong segments were removed, except the BOS-YYZ AA flight that I was allowed to drop before Rome clamped down. I'll leave it alone since it should look good to Orbitz -- probably even better that the real itineray.

One question remains. Mr. Pepe booked the LCA-FCO flight into fare class I. I assumed this was business class, but Mytripandmore interprets it as coach. I'll ask AZ when I call for seat assignments on the transatlantic segments, but does anyone know if AZ uses I for biz or coach?

I hadn't gotten around to contacting Nicolo about the fact that my new itinerary (changed by Mr. Pepe) never appeared at Orbitz/Mytripandmore. But sometime in the last couple of days, the new segments were added and the old and wrong segments were removed, except the BOS-YYZ AA flight that I was allowed to drop before Rome clamped down. I'll leave it alone since it should look good to Orbitz -- probably even better that the real itineray.

One question remains. Mr. Pepe booked the LCA-FCO flight into fare class I. I assumed this was business class, but Mytripandmore interprets it as coach. I'll ask AZ when I call for seat assignments on the transatlantic segments, but does anyone know if AZ uses I for biz or coach?

I = Business Class on Alitalia.

I = Business Class on Alitalia.

^ That's what I thought. Thanks.

Have received my boarding pass and ready to fly out from YYZ-MXP.

More info on trip report.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=563259
...if you are posting while you are away let us know how the J portion from Toronto-Milan and the Y portion from Milan-Lanarca went. Safe travels TM!

...if you are posting while you are away let us know how the J portion from Toronto-Milan and the Y portion from Milan-Lanarca went. Safe travels TM!
..where are u staying in Cyprus...if its Le meridien a status report on that property would also be apprciated...cheers homer>

After making changes with Nicolo on Thursday last week I have not been able to locate my intinerary on any of the following searches:

http://VirtuallyThere.com
http://ViewTrip.com
http://CheckMyTrip.com
http://MyTripAndMore.com

Previously it was on VirtuallyThere.com. The changes show up on Orbitz okay and I have paper tickets in hand so I am not too worried. Just wanted to see it elsewhere. Any ideas?

After making changes with Nicolo on Thursday last week I have not been able to locate my intinerary on any of the following searches:

http://VirtuallyThere.com
http://ViewTrip.com
http://CheckMyTrip.com
http://MyTripAndMore.com

Previously it was on VirtuallyThere.com. The changes show up on Orbitz okay and I have paper tickets in hand so I am not too worried. Just wanted to see it elsewhere. Any ideas?

Normally takes at least 48 hrs. (2 business days) for changes to be posted from AZ to any of the online TAs. With the long holiday weekend, give it until
Wednesday to check back. By that time, the revisions should be reflected.

Normally takes at least 48 hrs. (2 business days) for changes to be posted from AZ to any of the online TAs. With the long holiday weekend, give it until
Wednesday to check back. By that time, the revisions should be reflected.

you're right. Weekend and a holiday :)

I = Business Class on Alitalia.
I thought we were being booked into D, what am I missing?

I thought we were being booked into D, what am I missing?

He was responding to my question above about one of our LCA segments which was rebooked into I inventory instead of D.

I just booked hotel adler ( not the best ) for 8.94 bucks - 7 euros - For ppl who are travelling onto LCA and need a cheap place to stay in Milan

Go to worldres.com
select the dates ...
Choose 1 traveller - confirmation gives you for 2 beds .
choose hotel adler

Regular rate is around 99 bucks

I dont even know If I am going to be in milan @ that time but as a backup for the price you cant go wrong

My small contribution to all that I have gained

I just booked hotel adler ( not the best ) for 8.94 bucks - 7 euros - For ppl who are travelling onto LCA and need a cheap place to stay in Milan

Go to worldres.com
select the dates ...
Choose 1 traveller - confirmation gives you for 2 beds .
choose hotel adler

Regular rate is around 99 bucks

I dont even know If I am going to be in milan @ that time but as a backup for the price you cant go wrong

My small contribution to all that I have gained

Thanks for posting. Rate seems to be gone - every date I plug in comes up with $105. Shame - would have made this a REALLY cheap trip!

Thanks for posting. Rate seems to be gone - every date I plug in comes up with $105. Shame - would have made this a REALLY cheap trip!

It's not gone -- but it is there for July 4 only. Every other day is between 72 and 99 Euros.

I guess this one Italian hotel is celebrating American Independence Day!

...called AZ today and they have reverted to my original itinerary as well as Orbitz...so I call Nicolo and hes taking an extra long weekend....hopefully he straightens this out tomoorow as we leave friday :confused:

I've started my LCA trip. First off, in Toronto AZ business class uses the AC lounges. They're nice, lots of free food (veggies w/ dip, snacks, olives, pickles, etc.), and lots of pretty good free alcohol. There are two lounges, one in Terminal 1 and one near the airplane (at a different terminal). Two big screen TVs and free wi-fi. Not too shabby.

Regarding check-in, we decided to go strictly carryon but it still has been somewhat sketchy at the ticket counter. The agent kept saying that she "has never seen anything like this before" (my tickets/itinerary) and couldn't figure out why she couldn't assign me seats for the CY tickets. In the end she gave up on assigning seats for CY flights saying I "should" be OK b/c I'm checked-in. Don't misunderstand, she was very courteous and professional. Also I should mention that even after careful scrutiny from multiple agents none of them seemed to recognize this now famous fare.

As probably stated before you do have to go through customs if flying into YYZ from the states. It took about 30 seconds though... but the airport itself is not easy to travel around. You have to take a bus just about everytime you want to get anywhere.

somewhat similar situation here... :eek:
CT notified me Sunday the return itin
was modified to MXP-YYZ direct
whereas I am ticketed MXP-BOS-YYZ.

I already have booked NR travel directly
from BOS to my AUS home.

I previously discussed with Nicolo that AZ
would not end up paying AA for the last leg,
which seems to be one of his primary goals.
I hope he can/will fix tomorrow....

somewhat similar situation here... :eek:
CT notified me Sunday the return itin
was modified to MXP-YYZ direct
whereas I am ticketed MXP-BOS-YYZ.

I already have booked NR travel directly
from BOS to my AUS home.

I previously discussed with Nicolo that AZ
would not end up paying AA for the last leg,
which seems to be one of his primary goals.
I hope he can/will fix tomorrow....

As long as you were originally ticketed MXP-BOS-YYZ, Nicolo will reinstate it. However, AZ will not drop the BOS-YYZ segment even though it makes financial sense for them.

So, if you choose not to fly the last leg BOS-YYZ, that is your decision....just be discreet!!!!

Also, if you choose to drop the BOS-YYZ, you might consider not checking your bags, because AZ will likely frown on only sending your bags to BOS instead of YYZ. And, you don't want to tip off AZ that you will not be flying the BOS-YYZ sector, as they could hit you with a re-price (unlikely, but at least be aware).

you can check your bags all the way through to YYZ no problem. you will have to pick them up in boston no matter what (US laws for transit passengers) and recheck them, so you can just pick them up and walk out of the airport with them, its nto a problem at all, ive done it before...

As long as you were originally ticketed MXP-BOS-YYZ, Nicolo will reinstate it. However, AZ will not drop the BOS-YYZ segment even though it makes financial sense for them.

So, if you choose not to fly the last leg BOS-YYZ, that is your decision....just be discreet!!!!

Also, if you choose to drop the BOS-YYZ, you might consider not checking your bags, because AZ will likely frown on only sending your bags to BOS instead of YYZ. And, you don't want to tip off AZ that you will not be flying the BOS-YYZ sector, as they could hit you with a re-price (unlikely, but at least be aware).

As long as you were originally ticketed MXP-BOS-YYZ, Nicolo will reinstate it. However, AZ will not drop the BOS-YYZ segment even though it makes financial sense for them.
So, if you choose not to fly the last leg BOS-YYZ, that is your decision....just be discreet!!!!).Thanks !
I tried to be discreet when telling Nicolo that AZ
would not have to worry about the last leg,
maybe too much so since they went ahead and changed things !
But I expect you are correct that this can be fixed tomorrow.

Interesting regarding bags.
I will have them in BOS after clearing customs,
I planned to simply not re-check them.
I had not thought about any bag-matching issues on this int'l leg, though.
I think as a no-show it won't be a problem, but now am not so sure. :eek:

Also, if you choose to drop the BOS-YYZ, you might consider not checking your bags, because AZ will likely frown on only sending your bags to BOS instead of YYZ. And, you don't want to tip off AZ that you will not be flying the BOS-YYZ sector, as they could hit you with a re-price (unlikely, but at least be aware).

I'm pretty sure you can check them all the way through. In BOS you will have to go through customs and most likely will get your bags back for that. I believe the BOS-YYZ flight is considered "domestic" for customs purposes.

I am currently sitting in the CY lounge at LCA (better than the lounges in either MXP or FCO, I must say), and the trip has gone off without a hitch. We were welcomed at YYZ by the on-duty station manager as "the lucky ones," and in turn promised to fly AZ for the next ten years (his request)... ;) . Will post a full trip report in a few days when I am back home.

We were welcomed at YYZ by the on-duty station manager as "the lucky ones," and in turn promised to fly AZ for the next ten years (his request)... ;) .

But only if they continue to offer $33 transatlantic business class fares, right? ;)

I'd bump it to $49, if I could get an origination a bit closer to my home airport. :)

But only if they continue to offer $33 transatlantic business class fares, right? ;)

finalized my family's trips today...was wondering if anyone has found a good, cheap rental car place for cyprus yet? the cheapest rates im getting are like 60 bux/day

finalized my family's trips today...was wondering if anyone has found a good, cheap rental car place for cyprus yet? the cheapest rates im getting are like 60 bux/day


That is pretty cheap by European standards. Don't go too cheap otherwise you will end up driving a roller skate with an engine. ;)

...spoke with the very helpful Nicolo this a.m. and informed him I went to YYZ to make changes to my tix, and a few days ago ORBITZ re-verted back to my original itinerary. He made the changes, and sent an email off to Orbitz to make the changes...so now i have to call Orbitz tommorow to see if the changes have been entered into their system. If not then I am to call him back ASAP. So on the advice of Nicolo, if any of your booking engines are showing a different itinerary than the one you changed too...call the very helpful Nicolo so he can get it sorted out. We shall see if Orbitz straightens this out before our Friday departure. Fingers crossed! :)

finalized my family's trips today...was wondering if anyone has found a good, cheap rental car place for cyprus yet? the cheapest rates im getting are like 60 bux/day

The best rate I've seen for a rental car with an automatic transmission is 21.25 CYP per day (27.00 CYP less an online discount) available from Thrifty Cyprus (http://www.thrifty.com.cy/).

I'm torn as to whether I should rent a car or not. Since I'm staying in Agia Napa (three nights total), the taxi fare each way is almost equal to the cost of a one day car rental. So I'd really only wind up paying one extra day's worth of difference for the luxury of having my own ride.

What's holding me back is a general concern about driving on the wrong side of the road, which I have never done before. Also, I don't know how easy it is to get around Cyprus by car (in terms of navigation). Finally, I wonder if finding cheap or free parking will be too much of a hassle. If anybody has any thoughts on driving in Cyprus for the American traveler, I'd love to hear them.

The best rate I've seen for a rental car with an automatic transmission is 21.60 CYP per day (27.00 CYP less an online discount) available from Thrifty Cyprus (http://www.thrifty.com.cy/).

I'm torn as to whether I should rent a car or not. Since I'm staying in Agia Napa (three nights total), the taxi fare each way is almost equal to the cost of a one day car rental. So I'd really only wind up paying one extra day's worth of difference for the luxury of having my own ride.

What's holding me back is a general concern about driving on the wrong side of the road, which I have never done before. Also, I don't know how easy it is to get around Cyprus by car (in terms of navigation). Finally, I wonder if finding chear or free parking will be too much of a hassle. If anybody has any thoughts on driving in Cyprus for the American traveler, I'd love to hear them.
...and thats for a mid-size. Having driven in the UK, OZ, India and other spots with right hand drive its not bad, just follow traffic, as far as Cyprus is concerned I have a map and it doesnt look that bad, and I think if you want to explore the Troodoo's at all you will need wheels...I say go for it....
i am :D

I have heard that driving is the way to get around the island as they seem to have a poor public transit system. They have no rail, and a very unreliable bus network. I have also been warned to stay away from renting the tiny suzuki's and go for a larger toyota as the smaller cars (very small micro cars) tend to have a max speed of 50mph. I have also heard that the rental cars take a beating in Cyprus and that you should be sure to test the brakes before accepting the car.

What's holding me back is a general concern about driving on the wrong side of the road, which I have never done before. Also, I don't know how easy it is to get around Cyprus by car (in terms of navigation). Finally, I wonder if finding cheap or free parking will be too much of a hassle. If anybody has any thoughts on driving in Cyprus for the American traveler, I'd love to hear them.

Driving isn't too different from other places in Southern Europe. Not as chaotic as Italy, but of course with the added challenge of driving on the "wrong" side of the road. Driving in rural areas is not difficult, but cities can be challenging. It really all depends on whether you're planning on leaving the hotel (which I'd recommend); if you do, get a car, otherwise, don't bother.

...and thats for a mid-size. Having driven in the UK, OZ, India and other spots with right hand drive its not bad, just follow traffic, as far as Cyprus is concerned I have a map and it doesnt look that bad, and I think if you want to explore the Troodoo's at all you will need wheels...I say go for it....
i am :D

I give up...

What's a Troodoo?

I give up...

What's a Troodoo?

Troodos (http://www.cosmosnet.net/azias/cyprus/visitor9.htm) mountains (http://www.kypros.org/Cyprus/troodos.html) maybe. :D

I give up...

What's a Troodoo?
..and supposedly the nicest part of cyprus for sightseeing...supposed to be many old monestaries and the like.

I give up...

What's a Troodoo?

Here's what seems to be a fantastic guide (http://home.bredband.no/harhau/islandwalking/cyprusholiday.html) to hiking/walking in the Troodos.

Definitely going to rent a car...and definitely nervous about maneuvering it around. But considering I want to spend time on the Turkish side and the Troodos, it should be practical.

i was afraid to drive on the wrong side also, but i rented a car last yr in capetown, s africa, and i didnt have any problems...just look both ways when u r turning...but i rented an automatic, which is damn expensive in cyprus....

The best rate I've seen for a rental car with an
automatic transmission is 21.25 CYP per day (27.00 CYP less an online discount) available from Thrifty Cyprus (http://www.thrifty.com.cy/).

I'm torn as to whether I should rent a car or not. Since I'm staying in Agia Napa (three nights total), the taxi fare each way is almost equal to the cost of a one day car rental. So I'd really only wind up paying one extra day's worth of difference for the luxury of having my own ride.

What's holding me back is a general concern about driving on the wrong side of the road, which I have never done before. Also, I don't know how easy it is to get around Cyprus by car (in terms of navigation). Finally, I wonder if finding cheap or free parking will be too much of a hassle. If anybody has any thoughts on driving in Cyprus for the American traveler, I'd love to hear them.

[QUOTE=HomerJ So on the advice of Nicolo, if any of your booking engines are showing a different itinerary than the one you changed too...call the very helpful Nicolo so he can get it sorted out. :)[/QUOTE]

...sage advice!

But what are Troodoo's? :p

Guess it's about time to start researching Cyprus.

I have to send my tickets to Nicolo and just wanted to know what courier to use. Did anyone get insurance?? I live in the bay area and Fed Ex seems to be $16.00 for 2nd day air which I guess is not that bad. Any suggestions appreciated.

I just spoke to Nicolo RE: some tickets coming up this Friday. He said it's possible to cancel the tickets now and then use them later once you are sure of your dates.

If you have Hilton points, today is your last day to be able to book the Hilton Park Nicosia at just 10K points tonight. It's an incredible bargain at that rate. Tomorrow, it jumps 2 categories.

If you have Hilton points, today is your last day to be able to book the Hilton Park Nicosia at just 10K points tonight. It's an incredible bargain at that rate. Tomorrow, it jumps 2 categories.

Any idea what kind of transportation is available between the Hilton and the airport? I'm looking to spend one night in/around Cyprus, so if it's only by cab, I'm not sure if it would be worth round trip cab-fare for the free night.

I have to send my tickets to Nicolo and just wanted to know what courier to use. Did anyone get insurance?? I live in the bay area and Fed Ex seems to be $16.00 for 2nd day air which I guess is not that bad. Any suggestions appreciated.

There's even FedEx '3rd Day' air if you want to save even more.

No need for insurance, as the paper tickets have no intrinsic value. Just make acopy of the ticket receipt for your records, just in case!

If you have Hilton points, today is your last day to be able to book the Hilton Park Nicosia at just 10K points tonight. It's an incredible bargain at that rate. Tomorrow, it jumps 2 categories.

I think you mean it jumps TO the 2nd category. It goes from Cat 1 to Cat 2. (http://www.hiltonhhonors.com/processLanding.aspx?lp=categorychangehilton#intl)

I have a couple of questions:1)for those who were not able to get biz class on one or both the LCA-Italy flights and are booked in Y,is lounge access still valid?I doubt so.2)Is it possible to sleep at the airport?I have a quick turnaround and I'm not planning to shell out any money for an hotel!thanks

If you have Hilton points, today is your last day to be able to book the Hilton Park Nicosia at just 10K points tonight. It's an incredible bargain at that rate. Tomorrow, it jumps 2 categories.


Thanks. I just grabbed a room there for 2 nights at 10,000 points each night.

Thanks. I just grabbed a room there for 2 nights at 10,000 points each night.

I did too, just in case (can always cancel later). The hotel does seem too far from the typical 'touristy' areas (i.e, beach resorts). Are there any FT'ers that are planning to stay at this or the other (cat 3 until tomorrow) hotel?

I did too, just in case (can always cancel later). The hotel does seem too far from the typical 'touristy' areas (i.e, beach resorts). Are there any FT'ers that are planning to stay at this or the other (cat 3 until tomorrow) hotel?

I've got a total of 12 nights booked at the 10k place (2 different trips), and one night at the 25k place, along with a couple of nights in Rome. I blew almost all my miles on this trip, but at least it should be fun.

Remember, even if you don't have all the points in your account, you can still book the nights.

I have a couple of questions:1)for those who were not able to get biz class on one or both the LCA-Italy flights and are booked in Y,is lounge access still valid?No, if you're flying economy you will not have lounge access before the Cyprus Airways flights.

Is it possible to sleep at the airport?I have a quick turnaround and I'm not planning to shell out any money for an hotel!thanks
Quick turn at which airport? LCA? Or a forced overnight on the way back?

No, if you're flying economy you will not have lounge access before the Cyprus Airways flights.


Quick turn at which airport? LCA? Or a forced overnight on the way back?


In LCA.thanks

I did too, just in case (can always cancel later). The hotel does seem too far from the typical 'touristy' areas (i.e, beach resorts). Are there any FT'ers that are planning to stay at this or the other (cat 3 until tomorrow) hotel?

I have a Night on Aug 5th, 9th, 12th, 15th and the FCO Hilton on the 16th.

Nice meeting you by the way in SIN last year.

....orbitz and my Alitalia itinerary now match, so we shall see how it goes....is anyone else flying out tommorow...if so come by and say hi...I am in 4C...cheers homer :D

btw, i wanted to change one of my tix till the end of march and alitalia hasnt opened their schedule yet. nicolo told me i could wait without a problem, he just cancelled out my july dates, and said to call him back when the schedule opens up. he also said all travel must be completed by 1 year after the date of issue (i think mine were apr 5).

Got my reissued tix from Nicolo today. I am still booked in D on the MXP-LCA segments both ways. I will be in LCA for 4 nts. So, now I have to find cheap hotel there. I am awaiting reports froms FTERs who are there now or going soon.

I was able to change my res with Nicolo back when it was an option to cut out the LCA portion (very limited time offer). I sent my tickets into Nicolo and he issued an E-ticket for these flights. Life is good and everything is wonderful.

But today I call Orbitz to have them remove segments in my res to match what Alitalia has and they tell me that they will not touch the reservation now that AZ has been in it but will note the file so that no one at orbitz will touch the rez.

My question is this: As long as I have my E-ticket, does it matter if Orbitz removes the segments or not? I can see how it would matter with a paper ticket but the AZ system shows the correct itinerary. Am I good to go?

My question is this: As long as I have my E-ticket, does it matter if Orbitz removes the segments or not? I can see how it would matter with a paper ticket but the AZ system shows the correct itinerary. Am I good to go?It makes no real difference whether it's a paper or an e-ticket -- as long as Orbitz doesn't touch your booking (i.e. as long as they don't try to cancel your segments in Alitalia's systems), and as long as you don't rely on the info, contained in Orbitz's systems, you should be OK...

Now that I was happy to get my tickets from Nicolo I have another problem. I cannot view my initiary with my res. # on viewmytrip.com or other sites. Can someone tell me what I should do? I called Alitalia and got my seat assignments so I am in their system. I got my originial ticket from CT but it shows only my initiary as cancelled. Thanks for the help.

I have searched long and hard for an inexpensive airport hotel (free shuttle) in Milan.

The best I have found is Malpensa House for 50 Euros, http://www.malpensahotel.org/eng/casa.htm

Anyone know anywhere else for a similar price? I am assuming many of us have a forced overnight in Milan and the airport isn't close to most hotels....

Quick question:

Flying MXP-EWR-YYZ. Finishing the trip in EWR and continuing to YYZ. Bags checked to YYZ. I know that if I was continuing to another destination in US, I would have to pick up my bags, go thorugh the customs and just leave. What happens in case of Canada? Please let me know. Thanks!

Quick question:

Flying MXP-EWR-YYZ. Finishing the trip in EWR and continuing to YYZ. Bags checked to YYZ. I know that if I was continuing to another destination in US, I would have to pick up my bags, go thorugh the customs and just leave. What happens in case of Canada? Please let me know. Thanks!

If you're not taking the last segment, then just get your bags in customs, and take them and check them in at your connecting airlines. You *might* be able to have them through checked to your real destination, but, they may give you a hard time, and could be problematic.

Quick question:

Flying MXP-EWR-YYZ. Finishing the trip in EWR and continuing to YYZ. Bags checked to YYZ. I know that if I was continuing to another destination in US, I would have to pick up my bags, go thorugh the customs and just leave. What happens in case of Canada? Please let me know. Thanks!

YYZ is trested the same as a US domestic fligh