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tjw
Apr 5, 06, 6:30 am
thank you rosj!

Received e-mail confirmation from Travelocity approx. 2 hours after booking

tjw
Apr 5, 06, 6:31 am
On which Travelocity? I did not find anything there with the standard searching process.

travelocity.ca

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 6:32 am
Cheaptickets is owned by orbitz so they charge the shipping/handling etc fee. Unless you actually booked from Orbitz?? I checked before and couldn't get it to price...

I too had no success with trying to get this to price on Orbitz. That's where I tried first .... but perhaps I should have also tried there closer to the end/now too. Well, I have to run off now too. :o

Thanks to the OP and all those posters here who have helped out.

Helsinki Flyer
Apr 5, 06, 6:32 am
Can see it on ITA... can't get to book... where are people currently having success?

I had it like half an hour ago from www.travelocity.com but haven´t had the confirmation e-mail. This was on my first e-mail. I´m still hoping that they´ll issue them.

"Your tickets will be issued soon. You will receive an email when your tickets are confirmed. Please remember that prices are not guaranteed until flights are ticketed. "

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 6:33 am
Can see it on ITA... can't get to book... where are people currently having success?

Cheaptickets.com per Savage25's posted dates of travel. Got it within the last 40 minutes. And ticket numbers are still coming through on AZ ticket stock. :)

mdelaur
Apr 5, 06, 6:33 am
I booked a 'one way' so that I could return after Xmas holidays with another ticket later in January which I suspect I won't be able to use. Perhaps the best strategy is to imagine going 'against the flow'.

okay, got one looking for more. Thanks

gleff
Apr 5, 06, 6:34 am
coming up on Orbitz..

jpdx
Apr 5, 06, 6:34 am
But some of us have tickets on NW/KL starting from LCA from a previous "special" (LCA-PDX thread). :D

Those tickets allow for partial refunds (some $140 will be refunded when only flying LCA-PDX), so you won't even have to throwaway the return. I'm sure glad we decided to spring for the "B" fare.

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 6:35 am
coming up on Orbitz..

As I suspected. They always seem to come out on the tail end. :)

Thanks gleff. ^^

MapleLeaf
Apr 5, 06, 6:39 am
Ok, so now the obvious question - where do the miles go :D

NW may not be around, same with DL and CO - well they are not known for their award seats.

AZ's own program?

gleff
Apr 5, 06, 6:39 am
I can pull up the fare on Orbitz, but when I go to buy it says it's no longer available :mad:

gleff
Apr 5, 06, 6:40 am
Actually I just needed to change dates!

Then I was told the fare changed and was a whole $1 more...

LapLap
Apr 5, 06, 6:40 am
rosj

THANK YOU!!! (http://gracedavis.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/img_0420.JPG)

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 6:43 am
Actually I just needed to change dates!

Then I was told the fare changed and was a whole $1 more...

Which month are you having success with?

zrudeboyz
Apr 5, 06, 6:47 am
Anyone had success with very near dates?

Jaimito Cartero
Apr 5, 06, 6:49 am
Just a quick note for people with no hotels set up yet. Hilton has a 10k point property, Hilton Park Nicosia (until the June increase), which is a pretty good deal. Earlier this morning, it was coming up as a Diamond only force, but as I was calling in, it all of a sudden popped up again. $50 a night (in points) seems to be a pretty good value. Looking through FT, it seems to have gotten good reviews.

rcs85551
Apr 5, 06, 6:50 am
Anyone had success with very near dates?

This particular D fare does not become effective before 18MAY06. Hence, no way to get this deal on very near dates.

gleff
Apr 5, 06, 6:52 am
Which month are you having success with?
August, I just plugged in 8/6 and 8/19, didn't use multicity or anything..

GrizShel
Apr 5, 06, 6:52 am
On Orbitz the $185 refundable business fare displays, but the price increases to $8136 when you try to book any dates i checked.

gleff
Apr 5, 06, 6:55 am
try other dates, i first tried 8/6 to 8/12 and that happened to me...
then tried 8/6 to 8/19 and the price only increased $1

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 6:57 am
August, I just plugged in 8/6 and 8/19, didn't use multicity or anything..

It's working on Orbitz for dates in December returning in January too. Very cool. Thanks you.

So the simple roundtrip option works best there. :)

Helsinki Flyer
Apr 5, 06, 6:58 am
On Orbitz the $185 refundable business fare displays, but the price increases to $8136 when you try to book any dates i checked.

Same here. Price is quite often 33+ taxes and fees, but reprices to something reasonable as soon as I try to select them.

thenewflesh
Apr 5, 06, 7:06 am
I'm pretty sure that CO will give FF credit at 150 percent as AZ metal nets that in D. You won't get crap for the MXP-LCA legs though.

flyingzzzd's
Apr 5, 06, 7:06 am
Same here. Price is quite often 33+ taxes and fees, but reprices to something reasonable as soon as I try to select them.

I was getting this on Cheaptickets too - just have to keep changing flight selection or dates and you will eventually snare one.

We're extending a trip from Down Under now and picked up 7/5-7/10.

One very happy camper - thank you sooo much! :)

ohbahsan
Apr 5, 06, 7:12 am
just made another reservation, this time using cheaptickets with stopovers in MXP and FCO. i'm primarily using this as a cheap way to visit italy :)

thanks again to the OP.

whlinder
Apr 5, 06, 7:13 am
So what happens if the CTA rejects the fare?

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 7:16 am
I'm pretty sure that CO will give FF credit at 150 percent as AZ metal nets that in D. You won't get crap for the MXP-LCA legs though.

Perhaps a good reason to use AZ's own program. 50,000 EQMs is each to achieve with these flights and it gets you lounge access across SkyTeam. And for US-Middle East, it's a better value than most all US programs.

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 7:18 am
So what happens if the CTA rejects the fare?

CTA/CTO? Why would they? AZ hasn't in the past rejected a paper ticket. Also, denying boarding can mean they have to pay compensation. :D

mdelaur
Apr 5, 06, 7:23 am
still booking through orbitz in aug and sept

PrivatePilot
Apr 5, 06, 7:24 am
Looks like its gone on Cheaptickets... was able to snag 2 tickets but there were many stops (2-3). when I tried again to re-book something else, it didnt let me.. now gotta find a way to shorten this trip and perhaps find a way to YYZ : )

lesenok
Apr 5, 06, 7:26 am
ROSJ A big Thank You ! ^

I was able to book one on CheapTickets for $208.90 all-in. Oh Boy, ExpertFlyer paid for itself big time. I was able to see if there is D inventory for the dates with avail seats and fine-tuned my selection on CT until I got the date that I wanted just now for Jun30/Jul4 RT

Friday, June 30, 2006 Flight 1
Depart: 5:05pm Toronto, Canada (YYZ) Non-stop
Arrive: 7:25am Milan, Italy (MXP)
This is an overnight flight.

Saturday, July 1, 2006 Flight 2
Depart: 1:30pm Milan, Italy (MXP) Non-stop
Arrive: 5:55pm Larnaca, Cyprus (LCA)

Tuesday, July 4, 2006
Flight 3 Depart: 9:15am Larnaca, Cyprus (LCA) 1 stop
Arrive: 2:10pm Milan, Italy (MXP)

Tuesday, July 4, 2006
Flight 4 Depart: 3:15pm Milan, Italy (MXP) 1 stop
Arrive: 9:28pm Toronto, Canada (YYZ)

thenewflesh
Apr 5, 06, 7:30 am
For those having trouble, part. with expedia and travelocity, try selecting Economy. that made all the difference.

flyingwish
Apr 5, 06, 7:32 am
I just snagged one on cheaptickets for June 28 with return on July 10. No direct flight from YYZ. Had to route thru NYC - JFK outbound and return EWR. Total with paper tickets = 181USD. Sweet .........Also on 777 across the pond. Thanks for this post.
Now to find a cheap way to get to YYZ from WAS?

PJK
Apr 5, 06, 7:35 am
Do you guys also get the 22 h layover in Italy? Makes it unuseable for me. Only possibility would be outbound sep 11, inbound sep 13, arrival sep 13... but this makes arrival sep 14th...

mesadler
Apr 5, 06, 7:39 am
Can you guys help?

I checked EF for D avail. I'm now typing the dates into Obritz, but I'm not getting anythign. What might I be doing wrong?

whlinder
Apr 5, 06, 7:40 am
CTA/CTO? Why would they? AZ hasn't in the past rejected a paper ticket. Also, denying boarding can mean they have to pay compensation. :D

CTA= Canadian Transportation Agency.

They have not approved this fare yet.

jedimindtric
Apr 5, 06, 7:41 am
I also need some help. I am not getting this to work. Looking for mid-June dates would love a stop-over in Rome for a few days (or Milan).
Thanks.

bpauker
Apr 5, 06, 7:42 am
Thanks, OP! Looks like I'm going to LCA over labor day weekend now. I'll have to book an award to YYZ stat before all the seats for that suddenly start "disappearing". :cool:

mdelaur
Apr 5, 06, 7:48 am
try some direct flights and it should come up. I just booked 5 trips in 06 and 07

llbean
Apr 5, 06, 7:48 am
anyone still able to book dates? I am looking for something concentrating around a weekend preferably Jun 30 weekend. Which engine?
Thanks

mesadler
Apr 5, 06, 7:49 am
Figured out my problem, but has anyone had any luck with an FCO or MXP stopopver?

MapleLeaf
Apr 5, 06, 7:51 am
Both of my trips have a 7 day MXP stopover.

Helsinki Flyer
Apr 5, 06, 7:54 am
Before you have your biz-class tickets in hand, I wouldn´t buy any tickets to YYZ. I haven´t yet received the confirmation e-mail that my tickets have even been issued. It´s been hours already.

mesadler
Apr 5, 06, 7:54 am
Did you just get it through Orbitz multi-city?

superscot
Apr 5, 06, 7:55 am
Just received Email from Expedia UK saying paper tickets have been posted to me.

Thanks rosj - great find.

leiterk
Apr 5, 06, 7:55 am
After having booked two trips, I can't seem to get a 3rd one. It seems to keep saying the fare has changed.

flyingwish
Apr 5, 06, 7:55 am
Both of my trips have a 7 day MXP stopover.

I tried doing stopover but cheaptickets would not let me do it. Any suggestions how i can do it. I already have one ticket but can geta couple more at this rate. Thanks.

rgm18
Apr 5, 06, 7:56 am
since this is a biz class tik, will i be able to change dates without a problem?what about the fact that the fare will surely go up-is that not a factor with biz class tix?

what about routing-rght now on the way i go yyz-ewr-mil-lca, if i wanna do the direct yyz-mil, will i be able to change to that?

finally, if my yyz-ewr is on air canada and i dont take that flight, is there a chance that i will be able to do ewr-mil without it being cancelled since its a dift airline and a dift partner?

thanks!
r

llbean
Apr 5, 06, 7:59 am
Is anyone still able to find dates to book and on what engine???

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 8:01 am
Is anyone still able to find dates to book and on what engine???

On Orbitz.com. Simple roundtrip selection using YYZ-LCA ... for dates from May 20 returning August 6 or 8th for example. This is as of two minutes ago. :)

flyingwish
Apr 5, 06, 8:01 am
Just got my email confirmation from cheaptickets with ticket numbers issued saying tickets will be mailed by UPS within 24 hours. I am so happy that I got on this deal.
Now trying to make a second booking but cheaptickets seems to have blocked it or I can't see it anymore. I treied expedia. no luck.

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 8:03 am
since this is a biz class tik, will i be able to change dates without a problem?what about the fact that the fare will surely go up-is that not a factor with biz class tix?

what about routing-rght now on the way i go yyz-ewr-mil-lca, if i wanna do the direct yyz-mil, will i be able to change to that?

finally, if my yyz-ewr is on air canada and i dont take that flight, is there a chance that i will be able to do ewr-mil without it being cancelled since its a dift airline and a dift partner?

thanks!
r

Normally with Alitalia tickets (on AZ ticket stock) -- and that's what they are as far as mine go -- date changes are free when done by AZ staff and don't involve a repricing. Simply a revalidation/reissuance at most. If someone wants to push for a repricing, try someone else. :) (This is how it worked for my sub-$230 DEL-MXP-LON-MXP-DEL Alitalia business class tickets.)

jedimindtric
Apr 5, 06, 8:05 am
I am finally getting the $32 fare on CheapTickets, but it has not let me book it. I have pulled up the fare about 3 times.

mtacchi
Apr 5, 06, 8:07 am
Was there still up to 1200 GMT..I think its gone

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 8:07 am
Orbitz is working rather well for me with simple roundtrips (that include a 23-hour layover in some cases) .... but occassionally says that something has changed .... and my total cost goes up by less than 5-20 bucks. That is to say, on Orbitz, the $185-$206 total cost tickets are available.

llbean
Apr 5, 06, 8:07 am
Everytime I try to book on Orbitz the window shuts down...tried it three or four times. I really would like to use this if I can..

Anyone else able to book on a major site? Any dates that concentrate around a weekend?

jpdx
Apr 5, 06, 8:09 am
All dates now seem to be coming up on Orbitz when doing a simple round trip search. June, July, Aug, you pick it, they have it. Very strange.

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 8:10 am
Was there still up to 1200 GMT..I think its gone

I'm still getting it on Orbitz. For example departing May 20th and returning August 13. Roundtrip for YYZ-LCA with May 20th departure and August 13th return, selecting Alitalia as preferred carrier and business class works as of 30 seconds ago. :)

PJK
Apr 5, 06, 8:11 am
I have the only workable option for me (dates and times) showing up on ITA. But since it is a combination of coach / business (business for longhaul) I cannot get it at Orbitz. Any help?

rcs85551
Apr 5, 06, 8:12 am
Alitalia has still not yet removed the fare from their system with the last two updates....

** AZ - ALITALIA **
*GF*
IDYYZ18AUG06LCA;AD/AZ
FARES LAST UPDATED 05APR 12:40 PM
YTO-LCA FRI-18AUG06 AZ
MPM 6709 AT
TAXES/FEES NOT INCLUDED
PUBLIC FARES
CX FARE FARE C AP MIN/ SEASONS...... MR GI DT
CAD BASIS MAX
1 AZ 39.00R DRTCA9 D R AT

leiterk
Apr 5, 06, 8:12 am
perhaps it's there still?

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 8:13 am
All dates now seem to be coming up on Orbitz when doing a simple round trip search. June, July, Aug, you pick it, they have it. Very strange.

Not all dates, but a bunch of dates for those months. I know Sunday departures and Sunday returns seem to be working really well on Orbitz still. This is anything but gone on Orbitz right now.

yyzlhr
Apr 5, 06, 8:13 am
I'm still getting it on Orbitz. For example departing May 20th and returning August 13. Roundtrip for YYZ-LCA with May 20th departure and August 13th return, selecting Alitalia as preferred carrier and business class works as of 30 seconds ago. :)

Price comes up but can you get to booking stage?

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 8:13 am
I think it really is gone. It might show the fare, but won't let you book on either cheaptickets or orbitz.

We just booked another one about 4 minutes ago on Orbitz. The price adjusted up by around a buck or two, but it went through.

leiterk
Apr 5, 06, 8:15 am
what dates?

mdelaur
Apr 5, 06, 8:16 am
I did 4-5 orbitz bookings until about 10 minutes ago..now Im getting a $348 fare and not sure thtas going thru. not going thru now...over $2800

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 8:16 am
Price comes up but can you get to booking stage?

As of ten seconds ago I am having NO trouble getting through the page on Orbitz where I enter credit card details and hit the Purchase button. June 11th - July 9th. [I have no intention of hitting purchase button anymore. :D ]

lesenok
Apr 5, 06, 8:18 am
FYI, Just Checked on Orbitz and found the following dates available and bookable.

YYZ-LCA -> Business Class -> Oct7 - Oct12 and Jul11 - Jul16

MCI777
Apr 5, 06, 8:19 am
Just pulled the trigger for Feb 1-Feb5 2007. $214 all in including the $21 2nd day air fee for paper ticks (damn Orbitz).

JMR
Apr 5, 06, 8:19 am
Thursday, December 28, 2006 Leave
Alitalia 653 Business Boeing 767 8hr 20min 4127 miles
Depart: 5:05pm
evening Toronto, Canada
Toronto Pearson International (YYZ) 1 stop
Arrive: 7:25am
morning Milan, Italy
Milan Malpensa (MXP)
Change planes. Time between flights: 6hr 10min

Alitalia 7706 Operated by: CYPRUS AIRWAYS -- CY 0413 Business Airbus A319 3hr 25min 1477 miles
Depart: 1:35pm
afternoon Milan, Italy
Milan Malpensa (MXP)
Arrive: 6:00pm
evening Larnaca, Cyprus
Larnaca (LCA)
This is an overnight flight.

Total duration: 17hr 55min Total miles: 5604 miles
Sunday, January 7, 2007 Return
Alitalia 7707 Operated by: CYPRUS AIRWAYS -- CY 0412 Business Airbus A320 3hr 55min 1477 miles
Depart: 9:40am
morning Larnaca, Cyprus
Larnaca (LCA) 1 stop
Arrive: 12:35pm
afternoon Milan, Italy
Milan Malpensa (MXP)
Change planes. Time between flights: 22hr 5min

Alitalia 652 Business Boeing 767 9hr 25min 4127 miles
Depart: 10:40am
morning Milan, Italy
Milan Malpensa (MXP)
Arrive: 2:05pm
afternoon Toronto, Canada
Toronto Pearson International (YYZ)
This is an overnight flight.

Total duration: 35hr 25min Total miles: 5604 miles

PJK
Apr 5, 06, 8:20 am
Oh, there's plenty... I just think some people forget to specify Bizzz...

yyzlhr
Apr 5, 06, 8:20 am
I find the price all over the palce but when I select it I get:

Because flight availability can change rapidly based on traveler demand, the flight you selected is no longer available. Please make another selection. (Message 100)

thenewflesh
Apr 5, 06, 8:21 am
Anyone know the latest these can be moved out to once purchased??? My mom and I wanted to go May '07, and you obviously can't book anything that far in advance, so does anyone know if these can be pushed back till then?

mtacchi
Apr 5, 06, 8:22 am
Yep, still on Orbitz.

LapLap
Apr 5, 06, 8:27 am
Anyone know the latest these can be moved out to once purchased??? My mom and I wanted to go May '07, and you obviously can't book anything that far in advance, so does anyone know if these can be pushed back till then?


I was wondering this too - as well as if it was possible to forsake the LCA-Rome-Milan sectors and join the flight from Malpensa.

PrivatePilot
Apr 5, 06, 8:29 am
My flight from YYZ – LCA has about 3 stops (Milan, Rome, Chicago) which is fine I guess…. The return is much better.. I have a 3 day stopover in MXP.. so its MXP – EWR – YYZ.

The MXP – EWR flight is operated by Alitalia and the EWR – YYZ by Air Canada.. Can I just get off at EWR? Will they try to screw me with the hidden city pair rule? Will the fact that it is two carriers make a difference?

eastcoastcan
Apr 5, 06, 8:29 am
I picked up 2 flights. All had the 21 hour layover on the return.

Will there be any way to eliminate this layover? Or would it probably be better to just turn it into a stopover and enjoy milan?

The best I can tell, if I cancel, I will be out the 40$ shipping fee (Orbitz.com to canada) and the 19$ processing fee.

JMR
Apr 5, 06, 8:30 am
I was wondering this too - as well as if it was possible to forsake the LCA-Rome-Milan sectors and join the flight from Malpensa.
Go back in the thread, discussed early on. (sorry, too lazy to find exact post numbers)

llbean
Apr 5, 06, 8:32 am
GONE from Orbitz!

Peatisback
Apr 5, 06, 8:32 am
Just booked 2 tickets as of 930am Eastern time.... on Orbitz

jim5518
Apr 5, 06, 8:33 am
Just booked Sept 28 thru Oct 4 went thru with no problem 22 hr stopover in Milan.THANKS ROSJ

Dr.Buffy
Apr 5, 06, 8:34 am
Rosj, you rock!!!! First time to fly to Europe in Business class, and for once, the airport isn't far away from me!!! Folks, its still on orbitz, but you may have to forgo a layover. System gave me an auto layover for my return on July 20th in FCO....(Dates 6/20-7/20) :D

beaubo
Apr 5, 06, 8:37 am
sep 4-19 on orbitz!

PJK
Apr 5, 06, 8:39 am
GONE from Orbitz!
I still see it...

bostonbali
Apr 5, 06, 8:40 am
9/1/06 YYZ-MXP
9/2/06 MXP-LCA

9/5/06 LCA-MXP
9/6/06 MXP-LCA

2 Pax = $395 all in (2 x $176.71 + $19.98 service fee + $21.95 paper ticket processing fee).
Thanks OP!!! ^

mtacchi
Apr 5, 06, 8:41 am
One more booked here.

hartd
Apr 5, 06, 8:42 am
Just got it for November, thanks op

IluvSQ
Apr 5, 06, 8:42 am
I booked 3 seats July 7-14
Thanks for the heads up.

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 8:42 am
Anyone know the latest these can be moved out to once purchased??? My mom and I wanted to go May '07, and you obviously can't book anything that far in advance, so does anyone know if these can be pushed back till then?

With AZ tickets, this is approximately how it is understood by some to work: ticket is valid for one date from date of issue and once flown (at least in part) is good for up to one year from date of ticketed travel. In some cases that can mean nearly two years of validity.

The exact terms of ticket validity are found in Alitalia's contract of carriage and I suggest you check that out for a more firm assessment.

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 8:47 am
Any bets that this will no longer be available at around the same time of day that the AZ DEL-LON biz fares in the sub-$250s got pulled on February 17, 2005 (i.e., something like 12.30 EST)? :D

ohcanada
Apr 5, 06, 8:48 am
EXCELLENT FIND!

Just booked July 2 - July 7 on Orbitz. Unfortunately processing fee and unreasonable shipping fee to Canada pushed cost for 3 pax all the way up to US$613.23! :D

Anyone have experience with the hotels/resorts in Cyprus?

JohnDCA
Apr 5, 06, 8:50 am
Has anyone had experience with Orbitz using these glitch fares?

aviationkiwi
Apr 5, 06, 8:50 am
Got it. Booked Feb 8, 2007 - Feb 12, 2007 YYZ-MXP-LCA-FCO-JFK-YYZ
All for $192+$21 paper ticket fee.

Great find. Thanks for the OP.

gleff
Apr 5, 06, 8:51 am
I'm still getting it as well. I even see 2-stop versions with YYZ-JFK on DL and AA connecting to AZ... Orbitz is working fine.

eastcoastcan
Apr 5, 06, 8:51 am
With AZ tickets, this is approximately how it is understood by some to work: ticket is valid for one date from date of issue and once flown (at least in part) is good for up to one year from date of ticketed travel. In some cases that can mean nearly two years of validity.

The exact terms of ticket validity are found in Alitalia's contract of carriage and I suggest you check that out for a more firm assessment.

I just read through the COC and can't find a firm answer for myself.

JMR
Apr 5, 06, 8:52 am
My rez have AZ tix numbers, but seats are marked "assigned at gate." Any chance they will have oversold biz? Do airlines bump people from Biz? Battlefield demotion?

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 8:58 am
I just read through the COC and can't find a firm answer for myself.

Section 3.6:

3.6. Unless otherwise stated on the ticket, in these G.C.C., and in applicable fare rules, which may change the term of validity of the ticket (in which case such changed term will be shown on the ticket), a ticket is valid for:
(a) one year from the issue date; or
(b) subject to the travel of the first leg within one year from the issuance date, one year from the date of the travel of the first leg specified on the ticket.

http://www.alitalia.com/Images/CGT_en_0605_final_tcm9-10352.pdf

That's how I got what I got -- i.e., more than one year to finish using AZ tickets and why I used my tickets in original chronological order (even when doing date changes).

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 9:01 am
My rez have AZ tix numbers, but seats are marked "assigned at gate." Any chance they will have oversold biz? Do airlines bump people from Biz? Battlefield demotion?

I've not yet been downgraded by AZ on any of AZ's dirt cheap biz fares -- even when the cabin was full and I was travelling on a ticket less than 10% of the lowest fare then available.

Spiff
Apr 5, 06, 9:01 am
My rez have AZ tix numbers, but seats are marked "assigned at gate." Any chance they will have oversold biz? Do airlines bump people from Biz? Battlefield demotion?

Extremely unlikely.

Many carriers, especially non-US carriers, do not do advance seat assignments.

Alitalia will, just WAIT until you get your ticket and then phone them up. ;)

Dr.Buffy
Apr 5, 06, 9:02 am
Got Seat assignments for the Alitalia legs, its just the Cyprus airways legs that don't assign seats. Who cares.. for this price, I would ride like Fred Flinstone!!
And I just got an email from Orbitz with my ticket numbers. I'm doing the superior dance right now :D (for old Sat night live fans!)

mottamunda
Apr 5, 06, 9:03 am
I still see it...

Is it gone.....i dont see it on orbitz.

makin'miles
Apr 5, 06, 9:04 am
Wow... I'm surprised that AZ hasn't shut this down yet... all they would have to do it zero out their D bucket... this even went on during Italian office hours (for hours and hours...)

I bet 400-600+ tickets were booked...

Spiff
Apr 5, 06, 9:04 am
Just a quick note for people with no hotels set up yet. Hilton has a 10k point property, Hilton Park Nicosia (until the June increase), which is a pretty good deal. Earlier this morning, it was coming up as a Diamond only force, but as I was calling in, it all of a sudden popped up again. $50 a night (in points) seems to be a pretty good value. Looking through FT, it seems to have gotten good reviews.

Thank you!!!

10k points per night is a bargain, it would seem for a "high season" nice place in Larnaca.

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 9:05 am
This is going to work wonders for me. I'll be able to use this to intersect with the leftovers from an earlier AZ deal to do MXP-DEL. And it will cover me across the Atlantic during the peak travel periods so that I can mix the personal and the professional in the right proportions with far lower than usual costs. :)

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 9:06 am
Wow... I'm surprised that AZ hasn't shut this down yet... all they would have to do it zero out their D bucket... this even went on during Italian office hours (for hours and hours...)

I bet 400-600+ tickets were booked...

This happened last time too with the AZ DEL-LON biz fare deal. :D (The Indian contact persons for AZ kept telling me it was a special promotional fare and thus no changes could be done. Nonsense. :) ) And this time I cannot personally account for a dozen or two AZ biz tickets on the cheap. :D

MCI777
Apr 5, 06, 9:07 am
Just a quick question. Im sure its nothing to worry about.

Orbitz gave me a seat assignment from YYZ-MXP of 1C on the 767. When I check seatguru, there is no Row 1 on the 767. Is this just a typo on the seatguru site or might they be swapping the 777?

Just curious.

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 9:10 am
Just a quick question. Im sure its nothing to worry about.

Orbitz gave me a seat assignment from YYZ-MXP of 1C on the 767. When I check seatguru, there is no Row 1 on the 767. Is this just a typo on the seatguru site or might they be swapping the 777?

Just curious.

The 767s are supposedly getting new seats -- like the seats in the 777. I like AZ's 777 biz cabin seats. I find them far better than DL's, AA's and UA's biz seats for long-haul flights.

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 9:12 am
Question about this fare:

Do AZ-coded flights operated by Cyprus applicable for elite qualification credit in DL's or NW's program?

SchmutzigMSP
Apr 5, 06, 9:13 am
Wow, shucks for being sleepy and going to bed early and also not checking FT in the morning...

...but this deal is still around and I got in. Thanks, rosj!!!

YYZ-FCO-LCA on Aug. 6.

LCA-FCO-YYZ on Aug. 10.

$210 all-in. :cool: ^

bostonbali
Apr 5, 06, 9:13 am
Just a quick question. Im sure its nothing to worry about.

Orbitz gave me a seat assignment from YYZ-MXP of 1C on the 767. When I check seatguru, there is no Row 1 on the 767. Is this just a typo on the seatguru site or might they be swapping the 777?

Just curious.


I also got 1C (as well as 2D) on both trans-atlantic flights (YYZ-MXP and MXP-YYZ).

Speaking of seats, is there a difference between the C seats on the 767 and the 777? I know the C seats aren't that great on some of the AZ equipment, I suspect it's the 767 C seats that are lacking?
The AZ site has very little information regarding their Magnifica (C) class.

Peatisback
Apr 5, 06, 9:13 am
I'm still seeing it on orbitz....

HeathrowGuy
Apr 5, 06, 9:13 am
AZ is shwoing an operating EQP of 762 for YYZ-MXP - does that mean that the flight will offer Coral Class instead of Magnifica?

scorched03
Apr 5, 06, 9:19 am
no dice. been trying for over an hour. ugh.

Spiff
Apr 5, 06, 9:19 am
This happened last time too with the AZ DEL-LON biz fare deal. :D (The Indian contact persons for AZ kept telling me it was a special promotional fare and thus no changes could be done. Nonsense. :) ) And this time I cannot personally account for a dozen or two AZ biz tickets on the cheap. :D

I had no problem making a date change on my DEL-LON flight thanks to your advice and a very helpful AZ agent who sounded like he was based in Italy. :cool:

ToledoFlyer
Apr 5, 06, 9:20 am
I'm still seeing it on orbitz....

Me too...just did a number of phantom bookings over Thanksgiving...came up with a number of different variations for 11/22-11/26 or 27, or 11/23/-11/27. Best one included a full day lay over in MXP going to LCA and returning to YYZ. But, <sigh> can't go.

Enjoy.

TF

beaubo
Apr 5, 06, 9:22 am
oct 13-17

Blank Sheet
Apr 5, 06, 9:22 am
I also got 1C (as well as 2D) on both trans-atlantic flights (YYZ-MXP and MXP-YYZ).

Speaking of seats, is there a difference between the C seats on the 767 and the 777? I know the C seats aren't that great on some of the AZ equipment, I suspect it's the 767 C seats that are lacking?
The AZ site has very little information regarding their Magnifica (C) class.

Same here with the 1C and 2D assignments. There doesn't seem to be a place on Alitalia.com to enter the PNR and see whats going on with seats let alone change them. Hope that when the paper tickets arrive that things are straightened out.

the_nomad
Apr 5, 06, 9:23 am
Just caught this thread... a little late it seems.
Can't get it to price reasonable anywhere.

Anyone still getting it - if so, where? :(

scorched03
Apr 5, 06, 9:23 am
Me too...just did a number of phantom bookings over Thanksgiving...came up with a number of different variations for 11/22-11/26 or 27, or 11/23/-11/27. Best one included a full day lay over in MXP going to LCA and returning to YYZ. But, <sigh> can't go.

Enjoy.

TF

just did this. came up 700 for me

laidback71
Apr 5, 06, 9:23 am
Is it possible to skip the Cyprus leg, and just stay in Milan or Rome? Or would they void your ticket after that?

PJK
Apr 5, 06, 9:24 am
Is it gone.....i dont see it on orbitz.
Those are not necessarily the same things...
(Still get it at normal roundtrip... via Boston now...)

MCI777
Apr 5, 06, 9:25 am
Is it possible to skip the Cyprus leg, and just stay in Milan or Rome? Or would they void your ticket after that?


No..They would void your return portion or charge you the full Biz Class price.

HeathrowGuy
Apr 5, 06, 9:28 am
Same here with the 1C and 2D assignments. There doesn't seem to be a place on Alitalia.com to enter the PNR and see whats going on with seats let alone change them. Hope that when the paper tickets arrive that things are straightened out.

Methinks it might be Coral Class...

deejboram
Apr 5, 06, 9:28 am
Really simple.
Booked a 2 week trip in August.
With an 18 hour layover in Rome.
Now, where is Cyprus?

Thx rosj!!!

industry_killer
Apr 5, 06, 9:32 am
Got YYZ-LCA for July 6-9 on Orbitz. Thanks OP!

Jetstreamer
Apr 5, 06, 9:32 am
Just got YYZ-AA-JFK-AZ-FCO-CY-LCA with same routing on return for early october. Got AA seats assigned no probs and seat 1A JFK-FCO but no assignment for FCO-JFK. Will call for other assignment nearer the time when everything has settled down. Hopefully this deal sticks. Thanks again to the OP ^

formentura
Apr 5, 06, 9:35 am
thanks, in for thanksgiving too on orbitz

mtacchi
Apr 5, 06, 9:35 am
You can book a stop over in Rome you know...I am going to Rome for week, then Cyprus for 2 days and back through MXP to YYZ>

khkchan
Apr 5, 06, 9:36 am
oh that was easy. but can't go... :p

with all the fees, it is about US$200 per ticket - about C$240.

A low season roundtrip from YYZ-LHR is about C$450 + ryanair to wherever C$100.... so end up saving about C$300..

I know the economy and business difference... but dont' want to travel alone vacationing. And I doubt AZ will give you any miles on this ticket.

I will pass on that. Have fun everybody :)

SchmutzigMSP
Apr 5, 06, 9:36 am
Beware of the timings when using the AA/DL connections. Often time they only show an hour or so to connect in JFK, and in that time you'll have to go back out to the AZ ticket counter and check-in. I don't think AA in YYZ will check you all the way thru to LCA.

Words of advice... :)

formentura
Apr 5, 06, 9:37 am
anyone know where this can be credited? i would assume skyteam....biz may get a higher point value

laidback71
Apr 5, 06, 9:38 am
I think the prices are starting to increase. Half an hour ago I was seeing about $200 fares. Now they are up to $1000, still a good price for business class. I tried a number of different dates in June/July/August. Better hurry.

Edit: Nevermind. I'm an idiot. Make sure you select business class. Economy is more expensive.

scorched03
Apr 5, 06, 9:39 am
Beware of the timings when using the AA/DL connections. Often time they only show an hour or so to connect in JFK, and in that time you'll have to go back out to the AZ ticket counter and check-in. I don't think AA in YYZ will check you all the way thru to LCA.

Words of advice... :)

i must be missing something. instructions are:
orbitz.
roundtrip
pick any date
for YYZ to LCA.

Is this right? i'm not getting anything

HeathrowGuy
Apr 5, 06, 9:39 am
anyone know where this can be credited? i would assume skyteam....biz may get a higher point value

The ticket books into D (business) class, so you earn 150% EQMs if you credit the AZ-operated flights to CO OnePass.

beaubo
Apr 5, 06, 9:40 am
sep 15-19

vatraveler
Apr 5, 06, 9:42 am
I think the prices are starting to increase. Half an hour ago I was seeing about $200 fares. Now they are up to $1000, still a good price for business class. I tried a number of different dates in June/July/August. Better hurry.

Still there for Thanksgiving.

laidback71
Apr 5, 06, 9:43 am
i must be missing something. instructions are:
orbitz.
roundtrip
pick any date
for YYZ to LCA.

Is this right? i'm not getting anything

Select the preferred airline option, and pick Alitalia.

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 9:44 am
The ticket books into D (business) class, so you earn 150% EQMs if you credit the AZ-operated flights to CO OnePass.


And what to do with the AZ-coded Cyprus airline-operated flight?

I'm starting to think that it might be better for more people to use AZ's own program as well if that Cyprus airline flight cannot be credited for elite qualification miles elsewhere. (I think NW will give you non-elite miles for Cyprus-operated and -coded flights.)

beaubo
Apr 5, 06, 9:46 am
another sep 15-19

gldwebs
Apr 5, 06, 9:47 am
11/3/2006
YYZ-MXP-FOC-LCA
11/5/2006
LCA-MXP (overnight)-YYZ

Total $229 after tax)

I am using my NW account to get the miles:
EQM: 17210 $0.013 per mile
Banked: 31551 $0.007 per mile

rcs85551
Apr 5, 06, 9:48 am
And what to do with the AZ-coded Cyprus airline-operated flight?

This one only gives credit in AZ's Mille Miglia FF program, and in no other Skyteam FF programs that I am aware of.

While it is booked as AZ, it is operated by a non-Skyteam airline - hence it does not qualify.

PJK
Apr 5, 06, 9:48 am
i must be missing something. instructions are:
orbitz.
roundtrip
pick any date
for YYZ to LCA.

Is this right? i'm not getting anything
Other search options -> class = business

Otherwise won't work.

scorched03
Apr 5, 06, 9:49 am
Select the preferred airline option, and pick Alitalia.

n/m i see it now

rosj
Apr 5, 06, 9:49 am
I haven't had this good of chuckle in the morning reading through a few pages in months. Enjoy!
-----
rosj, FareCompare.com

P.S. The fare was not cancelled in the 5:30 am feed

flyUAyounger
Apr 5, 06, 9:50 am
It says that the ticket will be issued within the next 24 hours... could it be that they decide not to issue it?

anonplz
Apr 5, 06, 9:50 am
You can book a stop over in Rome you know...I am going to Rome for week, then Cyprus for 2 days and back through MXP to YYZ>

How do you do that?

PrivatePilot
Apr 5, 06, 9:52 am
Just got my ticket numbers from Cheaptickets! Thanks OP!

Also, does NW still have that stupid rule where you get no miles for tickets purchased on Cheaptickets.com ??

And lastly, do you think it'll be a problem if I ditch the last Air Canada EWR-YYZ segment?

anonplz
Apr 5, 06, 9:54 am
And also, how strictly does Alitalia enforce rules about throwaway segments invalidating the whole ticket? i.e., if I wanted to stay in Italy, and throwaway my Larnaca segments, could I fly back anyway on the existing ticket? I mean, what if I get "sick" at Milan airport or something and have to go to the doctor?

Mateo4321
Apr 5, 06, 9:54 am
How do you do that?

This is what I'm trying to do.

HeathrowGuy
Apr 5, 06, 9:55 am
And also, how strictly does Alitalia enforce rules about throwaway segments invalidating the whole ticket? i.e., if I wanted to stay in Italy, and throwaway my Larnaca segments, could I fly back anyway on the existing ticket? I mean, what if I get "sick" at Milan airport or something and have to go to the doctor?

Cyprus Airways will cancel the rest of your booking if you no-show.

Mateo4321
Apr 5, 06, 9:58 am
I would do this if I could work out a stop-over somewhere either MXP/FCO

(Pefect for going to Tomatina :) )

Anyone know how to do the stopover?

Clincher
Apr 5, 06, 10:00 am
It must be gone...half an hour I've tried...got it to show on orbitz..but would not let me complete the purchase :(

gaugeguy
Apr 5, 06, 10:01 am
omg!!!!! THE TIMING ON THIS IS INCREDIBLE! I already had to be in LCA for the NW LCA-GEG $200 tickets i bought last year!!!!

THANK YOU OP!!!!! :D :D :D

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 10:02 am
And also, how strictly does Alitalia enforce rules about throwaway segments invalidating the whole ticket? i.e., if I wanted to stay in Italy, and throwaway my Larnaca segments, could I fly back anyway on the existing ticket? I mean, what if I get "sick" at Milan airport or something and have to go to the doctor?

Alitalia generally enforces it to the point that it won't let you throwaway segments on the departure and still use the return unless specifically noted in the PNR as some type of emergency. It's a big gamble -- most probably a losing one (but less of a losing one than what you'd get with LH or SK) -- to try that with AZ in a non-emergency situation.

If I wanted to be a huge gambler and try something like that, then at least I'd make sure that I have a stopover in Italy on the YYZ to Cyprus ticket.

It's safer to do a one day at your destination and then a stopover in Milan on your return back to North America.

HomerJ
Apr 5, 06, 10:02 am
I'm only getting fares of $1000+

beaubo
Apr 5, 06, 10:03 am
sep 21-26

HeathrowGuy
Apr 5, 06, 10:03 am
It must be gone...half an hour I've tried...got it to show on orbitz..but would not let me complete the purchase :(


Had the same problem - try booking it "piece-by-piece" - when the screen with the appropriate fare shows up, select an outbound flight, THEN select a return flight instead of just selecting a complete itinerary...

MCI777
Apr 5, 06, 10:03 am
Just checking random dates on Orbitz...Thanksgiving weekend is available, HOWEVER, the Cyprus Air flight are now coming up in ECONOMY and Alitalia in Business!!!

HeathrowGuy
Apr 5, 06, 10:05 am
Just checking random dates on Orbitz...Thanksgiving weekend is available, HOWEVER, the Cyprus Air flight are now coming up in ECONOMY and Alitalia in Business!!!

I had that problem for an August booking (one way Biz, one way Y on Cyprus Airways) - I personally recommend just grinning and bearing it, as the flights are short enough, probably offer more service than a US legacy would for a similar stage length anyways, and the longhauls are still in Biz...

hartd
Apr 5, 06, 10:05 am
nov. 17th to nov. 25th still available

tfjim
Apr 5, 06, 10:06 am
Beware of the timings when using the AA/DL connections. Often time they only show an hour or so to connect in JFK, and in that time you'll have to go back out to the AZ ticket counter and check-in. I don't think AA in YYZ will check you all the way thru to LCA.

Words of advice... :)

While a tight connect is always an issue, at JFK you will have to exit security anyway from AA to transit to the DL terminal 3 to catch the MXP flight. With a business class ticket though you should have some priority both checking in and clearing security.

anonplz
Apr 5, 06, 10:07 am
Alitalia generally enforces it to the point that it won't let you throwaway segments on the departure and still use the return unless specifically noted in the PNR as some type of emergency. It's a big gamble -- most probably a losing one (but less of a losing one than what you'd get with LH or SK) -- to try that with AZ in a non-emergency situation.

If I wanted to be a huge gambler and try something like that, then at least I'd make sure that I have a stopover in Italy on the YYZ to Cyprus ticket.

It's safer to do a one day at your destination and then a stopover in Milan on your return back to North America.

I'm not a gambler, so I won't do it, and I've never been to Cypress, so hey. :)

(any direct flights from LCA to N.Africa or IST? ;) )

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 10:08 am
I had that problem for an August booking (one way Biz, one way Y on Cyprus Airways) - I personally recommend just grinning and bearing it, as the flights are short enough, probably offer more service than a US legacy would for a similar stage length anyways, and the longhauls are still in Biz...

I have one itinerary that has the Cyprus-operated flight in business one way and coach the other. C'est la vie.

aad665
Apr 5, 06, 10:08 am
I booked 3 flight...august, spetember and november

Some in C, other with Cyrpus in Y. At that price. I won't complain.

aad665 ^

HeathrowGuy
Apr 5, 06, 10:10 am
I have one itinerary that has the Cyprus-operated flight in business one way and coach the other. C'est la vie.

Strange as this might sound, I often find it somewhat "fun" to sample Y for short flights in other parts of the world, if only because it often harkens back to a bygone level of Economy service we just can't get in the USA...

tfjim
Apr 5, 06, 10:10 am
I would do this if I could work out a stop-over somewhere either MXP/FCO

(Pefect for going to Tomatina :) )

Anyone know how to do the stopover?

As it seems the restrictions on the fare are quite few you might as well book for whichever days you want and then call to change them for whatever stopover you liked.

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 10:11 am
I'm not a gambler, so I won't do it, and I've never been to Cypress, so hey. :)

(any direct flights from LCA to N.Africa or IST? ;) )

Flights to Beirut, Tel Aviv and Istanbul are rather cheap and/or a good Delta SkyMiles redemption value from LCA.

Mateo4321
Apr 5, 06, 10:11 am
As it seems the restrictions on the fare are quite few you might as well book for whichever days you want and then call to change them for whatever stopover you liked.


Good point :)

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 10:13 am
Strange as this might sound, I often find it somewhat "fun" to sample Y for short flights in other parts of the world, if only because it often harkens back to a bygone level of Economy service we just can't get in the USA...

I hear you loud and clear. I do rather well even in coach. And given the fare I am paying, what can I say? :D

Mateo4321
Apr 5, 06, 10:14 am
BEAUTIFUL

the return is via BOS which is perfect so I arrive in time for school!

Thanks OP!

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 10:14 am
Good point :)

I booked my one CheapTickets itinerary with whatever dates seemed to work at the time. It was done with with stopovers built in, and I did this with the anticipation of doing date changes once I got to Europe. :D

mtacchi
Apr 5, 06, 10:14 am
How do you do that?

I booked using MultiSegment. YYZ-FCO AUG9 FCO-LCA AUG16 LCA -YYZ Aug 19, wasn't hard..

Travel Man
Apr 5, 06, 10:15 am
How to change the dates? Do I have to send the ticket back to Cheaptickets.com or will Alitalia change the dates for me?

yyzlhr
Apr 5, 06, 10:15 am
I still see what i want with the price but cannot get it to book

jedimindtric
Apr 5, 06, 10:17 am
I am having the same problem -- got through every screen in Orbitz and it got stuck processing the payment.

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 10:17 am
How to change the dates? Do I have to send the ticket back to Cheaptickets.com or will Alitalia change the dates for me?

AZ can push back -- and has from time to time -- and tell a passenger to "deal with the travel agent". That said, AZ is fully capable of making the change if the AZ agent wishes to.

johnep1
Apr 5, 06, 10:18 am
I have one itinerary that has the Cyprus-operated flight in business one way and coach the other. C'est la vie.

That's what mine's showing. Oh well. Can't complain at this price.

I have friends who now want in. How do you do a segment by segment search?

ohcanada
Apr 5, 06, 10:20 am
Just checking random dates on Orbitz...Thanksgiving weekend is available, HOWEVER, the Cyprus Air flight are now coming up in ECONOMY and Alitalia in Business!!!

I had the same problem so after I booked I called Orbitz and asked them if it could be changed to Biz. They said that Cyprus Air and AZ had no Biz seats on the specific flights but that in our fare class (Y) we might get an upgrade (!). Also confirmed that while not refundable you can make unlimited itinerary changes.

ohcanada
Apr 5, 06, 10:21 am
Duplicate.

Seat13F_AC_CRJ
Apr 5, 06, 10:22 am
What an effort! But I managed. Three seats up front YYZ-LCA-YYZ in Nov for Mrs 13F's b-day and our 15th wedding anniversary a few days later. USD 573.80 all in with fees, courier charges, etc. Thank you OP and FlyerTalk! ^ ^
--
13F

izzik
Apr 5, 06, 10:22 am
I think you should be fine. I can't imagine AZ checking you in for the AC segment.. so you should be ok ?

And lastly, do you think it'll be a problem if I ditch the last Air Canada EWR-YYZ segment?

Boutet Olly
Apr 5, 06, 10:23 am
Booked my flight YYZ to LCA for Jan 18-26, 2007!!! I still can't believe this "steal" of a rate! ^ ^ ^

HeathrowGuy
Apr 5, 06, 10:24 am
SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS - THE TICKET/OR ELECTRONIC TICKET/IS NOT VALID IF THE FIRST COUPON HAS NOT BEEN USED AND WILL NOT BE HONORED IF ALL THE COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN THE SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET/OR ELECTRONIC TICKET.

So I wouldn't recommend anyone try to skip out on any segs, especialy given the fact that a re-fare would cost thousands...

phoney
Apr 5, 06, 10:24 am
nov. 17th to nov. 25th still available

Where did you book it? I tried on cheap tickets with no luck! I assume it is 11/17-18 and 11/25-26, but I tried both ways and no luck - would be perfect Thanksgiving trip. Please help with more details!

scorched03
Apr 5, 06, 10:24 am
must have the worst luck or something.

saw this 3 hrs ago and haven't found anything that is bookable. still trying :)

great deal OP!

gwwallace
Apr 5, 06, 10:25 am
Alitalia just filed the correction to the fare at 1100EST - so you are down to your last few hours of this fare before it goes up to CAD3900.


G

MCI777
Apr 5, 06, 10:25 am
Thank you OP!! this is one of many reasons why I love FT!!

HeathrowGuy
Apr 5, 06, 10:26 am
I think you should be fine. I can't imagine AZ checking you in for the AC segment.. so you should be ok ?

Actually, I can - AZ and AC codeshare, and prolly have a Thru Check-in link via EDIFACT.

yyzlhr
Apr 5, 06, 10:27 am
Alitalia just filed the correction to the fare at 1100EST - so you are down to your last few hours of this fare before it goes up to CAD3900.


G

Good then I can stiop banging my head!

vatraveler
Apr 5, 06, 10:28 am
Where did you book it? I tried on cheap tickets with no luck! I assume it is 11/17-18 and 11/25-26, but I tried both ways and no luck - would be perfect Thanksgiving trip. Please help with more details!

Try Orbitz.

Seat13F_AC_CRJ
Apr 5, 06, 10:28 am
I had the same problem so after I booked I called Orbitz and asked them if it could be changed to Biz. They said that Cyprus Air and AZ had no Biz seats on the specific flights but that in our fare class (Y) we might get an upgrade (!). Also confirmed that while tix are not refundable you can make unlimited itinerary changes. ^
Also got economy on the MXP-LCA leg. Thanks for the info. Will try to upgrade.
--
13F

Mrp Alert
Apr 5, 06, 10:30 am
orbitz.com 9/19 - 9/23
$220.08 total!

Now I need a cheap LAS-YYZ ticket!

vatraveler
Apr 5, 06, 10:32 am
Anyone have an accurate Alitalia seatmap? The 1C/2D thing makes me a little anxious.

yyzlhr
Apr 5, 06, 10:32 am
Still pricing- but cant get it!!! :td:

janhigginskcmo
Apr 5, 06, 10:33 am
I got my dates! What an awesome deal!

Travel Man
Apr 5, 06, 10:33 am
AZ can push back -- and has from time to time -- and tell a passenger to "deal with the travel agent". That said, AZ is fully capable of making the change if the AZ agent wishes to.


That means, in the worst case I will have to pay them 30 USD per ticket and send the tickets back to US and then pay again for the internation courier? :eek:

gleff
Apr 5, 06, 10:36 am
I've got ticket numbers :D

And I've booked about a dozen folks in my office, too... ^

phoney
Apr 5, 06, 10:37 am
I got my dates! What an awesome deal!

What dates- still trying! Urgh

DeltaFlyingProf
Apr 5, 06, 10:39 am
I just purchased my ticket on Orbitz. Outgoing June 26th incoming July 6th!
Many thanks to the OP! I never thought I'd ever buy a stupidly cheap C fare :D
I am really going to BRU, but LCA-BRU is only 400$ on AZ, so I end up saving a lot of money and racking up a lot of DL miles and MQMs :) Perfect timing for this fare...

Jetstreamer
Apr 5, 06, 10:39 am
Found some photos of the Alitalia biz seats. Seems the 777 seats are slightly better than those on the 767 but all look quite nice.

Boeing 777-200

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0514883/M/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0620442/M/

Boeing 767-300 (can't find any for the -200)

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0806003/M/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0733857/M/

Those people worried about the lack of row 1 on the 767 remember the seatguru map is for the 767-300, check your flight is not on the 767-200.

GeneCMH
Apr 5, 06, 10:41 am
Amazing deal. Booked two ticket through Orbitz 7/2 - 7/8. Very anxiously awaiting ticket numbers.

Is it normal to take a while to get them from Orbizt? Any way they can back out at this point?

mlhall
Apr 5, 06, 10:41 am
Anyone seeing July availability? If so, on what engines are you booking and how do you book a long layover in Rome as part of it?

TravellingMan
Apr 5, 06, 10:42 am
Got a week in Cyprus for Memorial day on Orbitz. WOW!!!!
BTW the cost of the airfare is almost the same as the Orbitz fees :D :D :D :D
Thanks a lot to the finder.

Now to find a way to get to YYZ...

justind
Apr 5, 06, 10:46 am
email just recieved:

Dear JUSTIND,

Your CheapTickets flight reservation could not be confirmed by Alitalia and has
been cancelled. Your credit card will not be charged for this reservation.

To book an alternate flight, please return to http://www.cheaptickets.com

Thank you,
CheapTickets Customer Support
just click. you're there. (SM)
http://www.cheaptickets.com

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 10:48 am
email just recieved:

Dear JUSTIND,

Your CheapTickets flight reservation could not be confirmed by Alitalia and has
been cancelled. Your credit card will not be charged for this reservation.

To book an alternate flight, please return to http://www.cheaptickets.com

Thank you,
CheapTickets Customer Support
just click. you're there. (SM)
http://www.cheaptickets.com

What time did you book your ticket?

party_boy
Apr 5, 06, 10:48 am
email just recieved:

Dear JUSTIND,

Your CheapTickets flight reservation could not be confirmed by Alitalia and has
been cancelled. Your credit card will not be charged for this reservation.

To book an alternate flight, please return to http://www.cheaptickets.com

Thank you,
CheapTickets Customer Support
just click. you're there. (SM)
http://www.cheaptickets.com

What? You clicked, but you're not there!

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 10:48 am
email just recieved:

Dear JUSTIND,

Your CheapTickets flight reservation could not be confirmed by Alitalia and has
been cancelled. Your credit card will not be charged for this reservation.

To book an alternate flight, please return to http://www.cheaptickets.com

Thank you,
CheapTickets Customer Support
just click. you're there. (SM)
http://www.cheaptickets.com

What time did you book your flights?

wentona777
Apr 5, 06, 10:48 am
Just booked early August trip. All flights in Business except the BOS-YYZ leg on American Eagle -- fingers are crossed!

bennytma
Apr 5, 06, 10:48 am
email just recieved:

Dear JUSTIND,

Your CheapTickets flight reservation could not be confirmed by Alitalia and has
been cancelled. Your credit card will not be charged for this reservation.

To book an alternate flight, please return to http://www.cheaptickets.com

Thank you,
CheapTickets Customer Support
just click. you're there. (SM)
http://www.cheaptickets.com




Let the fun begin....who here is a lawyer.....

SchmutzigMSP
Apr 5, 06, 10:49 am
email just recieved:

Dear JUSTIND,

Your CheapTickets flight reservation could not be confirmed by Alitalia and has
been cancelled. Your credit card will not be charged for this reservation.

To book an alternate flight, please return to http://www.cheaptickets.com

Thank you,
CheapTickets Customer Support
just click. you're there. (SM)
http://www.cheaptickets.com

Did you receive a ticket number?

johnep1
Apr 5, 06, 10:51 am
Did you receive a ticket number?

I'm still waiting on the ticket numbers for my friends' tickets. The first batch all look good to go though.

justind
Apr 5, 06, 10:52 am
Originally recieved a "flight purchase request" confirmation at 11:11 am (with Alitalia record locator #, but no ticket # assinged), Recieved the above email at 12:43 am.

jim739
Apr 5, 06, 10:52 am
Just received this email:

Dear JIM739,
We need to speak with you regarding your reservation. Please contact CheapTickets immediately at 1.888.922.8849.
Thank you,
CheapTickets Customer Support
just click. you're there. (SM)
http://www.cheaptickets.com


For tickets booked in September. I got a confirmation email through but not a ticket number. :(

DomScarff
Apr 5, 06, 10:53 am
Just Booked,

Tue, Oct 24, 2006
Departs 5:05pm, Arrives 5:55pm
Alitalia 653 / 7706
Toronto, Canada to Larnaca, Cyprus

Thu, Oct 26, 2006
Departs 9:15am, Arrives 2:00pm
Alitalia 7701 / 1044 / 652
Larnaca, Cyprus to Toronto, Canada

AND

Sun, Oct 29, 2006
Departs 2:15pm, Arrives 4:30pm
Delta Air Lines 5108
Alitalia 7615 / 7700
Toronto, Canada to Larnaca, Cyprus

Tue, Oct 31, 2006
Departs 9:40am, Arrives 2:05pm
Alitalia 7707 / 652
Larnaca, Cyprus to Toronto, Canada

Dom.

SchmutzigMSP
Apr 5, 06, 10:54 am
Common logic says if we have a 055xxxxxxxxxxx ticket number, we should be good to go, right?

I do realize that common logic does not always prevail, though... :eek:

ohcanada
Apr 5, 06, 10:55 am
Both my e-mailed Orbitz rez confirmations have AZ ticket numbers on them, although of course I don't have the tix. This will be interesting!! :rolleyes:

johnep1
Apr 5, 06, 10:56 am
I don't really know how ticket numbers work. My reservation has a PNR for both UA and Alitalia (flying UA IAD-YYZ on the return) but just one ticket number. Should there be a ticket number for both airlines, or is the one ticket number enough?

zxcvbs
Apr 5, 06, 10:57 am
WOW
somehow I thought this thread was from months ago and didn't bother reading it. I just managed to get a fare though, $196 all in! :eek: :D :cool:

LapLap
Apr 5, 06, 10:57 am
I don't really know how ticket numbers work. My reservation has a PNR for both UA and Alitalia (flying UA IAD-YYZ on the return) but just one ticket number. Should there be a ticket number for both airlines, or is the one ticket number enough?

Should be just one ticket number per person travelling.

MACH81
Apr 5, 06, 10:58 am
JUST GOT IT!
Oct 27/nov3!I love FT!1st mistake fare 4 me!

yevlesh2
Apr 5, 06, 11:00 am
Big thanks, got it on Orbitz! Is it avaliable anywhere else (in addition to orbitz/cheaptickets ). Would be good to have a backup in case one of the sites decides not to honor.

bennytma
Apr 5, 06, 11:00 am
people are still booking on Orbitz? I cant get the fare to ticket. I keep getting fare has changed...

johnep1
Apr 5, 06, 11:00 am
Should be just one ticket number per person travelling.

Thanks.

Looking forward to LCA!

TravellingMan
Apr 5, 06, 11:01 am
How long does Orbtiz normally take to issue ticket numbers? A bit tense...

anonplz
Apr 5, 06, 11:02 am
Orbitz continues to accept reservations, but it appears they stopped issuing ticket numbers a while back, so current res'n.'s may not be validated.

janhigginskcmo
Apr 5, 06, 11:02 am
This might be a dumd question. I booked hubby and I. He told me to go back and book the kids. It won't let me book with out an adult. Were on the same flight. Can I book them under adults?

hartd
Apr 5, 06, 11:02 am
It took about 10 minutes for my ticket numbers to show up.

SchmutzigMSP
Apr 5, 06, 11:03 am
Also confirmed that while not refundable you can make unlimited itinerary changes.

Doesn't Orbitz charge a $200 change fee? I messed up and cut short my ideal trip by a day and would like to fly back a day or two later, now...

Booked on Orbitz...

yevlesh2
Apr 5, 06, 11:03 am
Yes, you can book the kids as adults (as long as they are not infants) .

This might be a dumd question. I booked hubby and I. He told me to go back and book the kids. It won't let me book with out an adult. Were on the same flight. Can I book them under adults?

lzgutt
Apr 5, 06, 11:03 am
This might be a dumd question. I booked hubby and I. He told me to go back and book the kids. It won't let me book with out an adult. Were on the same flight. Can I book them under adults?

Yes. You most certainly can book children under adult fares.

TravellingMan
Apr 5, 06, 11:04 am
The fares are still available and can be booked on Orbitz. Usually when the fare is not available it gives you the latest fare or does not allow you to finish the booking.

Orbitz continues to accept reservations, but it appears they stopped issuing ticket numbers a while back, so current res'n.'s may not be validated.

rexb
Apr 5, 06, 11:04 am
Heard about this from AAFrequentFlyer on Fodors.com about an hour ago. Didn't need to even think about it... this is not a "mileage run" for me - - it's our trip to Europe for the year. Reservationist put me on hold for quite a while to "check this out with supervisor". Since I talked live with an Alitalia reservationist, I have no ethical qualms, even if it IS a genuine mistake (doesn't it have to be?) - - haven't read all 32 pages of posts here this morning - - just wanted to let others know that the fare is still being sold.

So awesome... thanks, flyertalk - - got my last trip to Europe thanks to communications here also (the "Rockford deal, on NW, to Paris", May 2005).

Best wishes,

Rex Bickers
Floyds Knobs, Indiana

Boutet Olly
Apr 5, 06, 11:05 am
Got my ticket number about 10-15min after I booked.....

alliance
Apr 5, 06, 11:05 am
Just booked on Orbitz 12/17-12/24. No ticket numbers yet.

mlhall
Apr 5, 06, 11:09 am
Is this dead?

unagi1
Apr 5, 06, 11:09 am
I know that in YYZ if flying to the US one undergoes US preclearance, but if flying thru YYZ in direct transit outbound to another Int'l destination, does one have to go thru Canada immigration/customs, or do they have airside transfer.

nikbruno
Apr 5, 06, 11:09 am
Just booked 3 tickets September 21-26, man I love this site. Thanks guys !

AinA
Apr 5, 06, 11:10 am
Help! I have been trying for an hour at orbitz.. what am I doing wrong? Can someone give me a quick idiot's guide to getting this fare?

A

flymaster
Apr 5, 06, 11:10 am
Is this dead?

Booked 3 tickets 5 minutes ago went to book another and I got an error screen.

Thanks to the O.P.

Gotta Love Flyertalk!!!!

PrivatePilot
Apr 5, 06, 11:11 am
So if we want to change our dates and or routing, and each way is operated by two carriers (Air Canada and Alitalia), who should be the airline/agency to call? Should I call cheaptickets directly? Is it too early to call or should I wait? Dont wanna jeopardize anyones chances...

phoney
Apr 5, 06, 11:12 am
Just booked on Orbitz 12/17-12/24. No ticket numbers yet.

I must be incompetent, I have tried every date people have posted without luck.
I am searching Orbitz multi-leg business class. When people list dates I am trying date YYZ to MXP date +1 MXP to Lca and return LCA - MXP date and MXP to YYZ date +1

What am I doing wrong?

rexlex
Apr 5, 06, 11:13 am
I received a ticket number for the first of three reservations an hour ago. Nothing yet for the next two.

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 11:15 am
My Orbitz and CheapTicket itineraries have ticket numbers. With Travelocity, nothing has been posted about ticket numbers nor shipping tracking numbers. On the contrary, Travelocity says something about checking the ticket with the airline before issuing it. Is that standard Travelocity language? (It seems to be.)

fti
Apr 5, 06, 11:16 am
This might be a dumd question. I booked hubby and I. He told me to go back and book the kids. It won't let me book with out an adult. Were on the same flight. Can I book them under adults?

I would book one kid as an adult and the rest as children in case there is a child discount for passengers under 12.

John

GUWonder
Apr 5, 06, 11:16 am
I know that in YYZ if flying to the US one undergoes US preclearance, but if flying thru YYZ in direct transit outbound to another Int'l destination, does one have to go thru Canada immigration/customs, or do they have airside transfer.

For my AA to BA flights that have me transiting via YYZ (for US-UK via Canada) I had to go landside at YYZ and reclear security.

requalifly
Apr 5, 06, 11:17 am
Seems maybe this ended at 12pm, EST. Can't even get Orbitz to confirm.

Just happy I got a great seat during Mediterranean high season in July.

Still waiting anxiously for ticketing numbers. Ordered trip cancellation insurance.....just in case.

gaugeguy
Apr 5, 06, 11:17 am
Doesn't Orbitz charge a $200 change fee? I messed up and cut short my ideal trip by a day and would like to fly back a day or two later, now...

Booked on Orbitz...


Nope, just $25 to cancell and you can re-book yourself.

nikbruno
Apr 5, 06, 11:17 am
My return flight to Boston says it is on a 767-400 ? I didn't know Alitalia ordered any of these and don't see a record of it on the Boeing site. Any idea where they are getting these aircarft from ?

Mateo4321
Apr 5, 06, 11:18 am
I know that in YYZ if flying to the US one undergoes US preclearance, but if flying thru YYZ in direct transit outbound to another Int'l destination, does one have to go thru Canada immigration/customs, or do they have airside transfer.


I believe you do, at least for AC/UA. All AC/UA transborder flights come to Terminal 2, and if your trying to connect to an international or canadian flight you must take the bus to Terminal 1. Give yourself extra time to do this.

xyzzy
Apr 5, 06, 11:18 am
I'm showing $5000+ for each person on every engine I tried... Is this deal dead? Looks that way to me...


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