View Full Version : No Y-bucket?


sts603
Dec 9, 05, 4:45 pm
So I'm checking loads for upgrade chances on PHL-PIT-PHX for 1/2 and noticed Y0 B9 on a whole flock of flights. Wondering it was some PHX unique thing. Nope LAX flights too. What's up with THAT?

Not to mention, PIT-PHX F9 P0 on a A320, way to entice people to buy full fare! :td:

cedric
Dec 9, 05, 9:18 pm
So I'm checking loads for upgrade chances on PHL-PIT-PHX for 1/2 and noticed Y0 B9 on a whole flock of flights. Wondering it was some PHX unique thing. Nope LAX flights too. What's up with THAT?

Not to mention, PIT-PHX F9 P0 on a A320, way to entice people to buy full fare! :td:

US tends to do this to extremely popular flights (eg FCO in the summer) in order to prevent Premium awards from being redeemed.

sts603
Dec 9, 05, 10:03 pm
US tends to do this to extremely popular flights (eg FCO in the summer) in order to prevent Premium awards from being redeemed.

Strange....I have my girlfriend on a Premium award on that flight....

If they had said no - I would have thrown a fit. They market Premium as any seat available - no restrictions. It says "No capacity controls." Pretty hard for them to get out of it - it's clear.

I would go up the corporate ladder on that one, or if not - call up the girl who interviewed me about the Lanesborough rate error at the WSJ.

cedric
Dec 10, 05, 8:48 pm
Some examples of this practise:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120324
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=407076

AC won't allow an instant KK (basically equivalent to Premium) award to be redeemed if the flight is oversold. If this is what US is doing, I have no qualms with it.

sts603
Dec 11, 05, 1:31 pm
Some examples of this practise:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120324
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=407076

AC won't allow an instant KK (basically equivalent to Premium) award to be redeemed if the flight is oversold. If this is what US is doing, I have no qualms with it.

Ok if the flight is oversold - that's one thing - but none of these flights are close to being oversold. They have 9's in several buckets.

BWIFlyer
Dec 11, 05, 11:36 pm
I first noticed this practice about two years ago. Inventory becomes Y0 to popular destinations at peak times - this includes the holiday periods. :td: Traveling on 1/2, you're still in the holiday period since 1/2 is the federal holiday for New Year's Day. It is obviously done to prevent premium coach awards at peak times when they hope they will be able to sell the higher fares (and forget finding a standard coach award!). P0 inventory happens even earlier than the Y0 - whether or not they have booked any upgrades into first yet. This year the Y inventory change occurred around June for November & December holiday flights into LAS. Other popular west coast destinations probably changed at the same time.

sts603
Dec 11, 05, 11:40 pm
I first noticed this practice about two years ago. Inventory becomes Y0 to popular destinations at peak times - this includes the holiday periods. :td: Traveling on 1/2, you're still in the holiday period since 1/2 is the federal holiday for New Year's Day. It is obviously done to prevent premium coach awards at peak times when they hope they will be able to sell the higher fares (and forget finding a standard coach award!). P0 inventory happens even earlier than the Y0 - whether or not they have booked any upgrades into first yet. This year the Y inventory change occurred around June for November & December holiday flights into LAS. Other popular west coast destinations probably changed at the same time.

Strange, I booked a premium award on this Y0 flight in mid-Nov. no problem. It's still a violation of advertised "no capcity controls."

USFlyerUS
Dec 12, 05, 6:17 am
Ok if the flight is oversold - that's one thing - but none of these flights are close to being oversold. They have 9's in several buckets.

This doesn't mean the flight isn't oversold. The 9s just indicate US is willing to sell a seat in that fare class, which has little to do with actual seats already sold. Also, the time requirements may have passed for some of those lower fare buckets, so US won't sell any more seats in those fare classes even if not 0'd. The one exception would be if someone rebooks their return, in which case the time requirements may not apply.


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