In addition to the obvious opportunity for gluttony, I like the fact that you can see your food before you commit to it, and you can sample several different dishes without having to buy an entire serving. Although there's often a quality deficit, which is reduced if the buffet is busy or with certain kinds of cuisines (curries) designed to simmer, and there's the temptation to eat even after your marginal utility is negative, I like buffets.
One advantage of a buffet is the fact that you can get in and out fast....you're not hostage to the kitchen or the server.
Unless there's a grazer. I don't mean someone who nibbles away in line (although that can be gross). I mean someone who takes 20 minutes to decide what to eat! Fer cryin out loud! If you don't like it, don't eat it! Leave the plate on your table and go through again! They always bring a Nutritional Anthropologist, and the Nutritional Anthropologist always feels the need to tell them what's in the dish and where they were the first time they tasted it.
Today, I was trapped behind a couple to whom the phrase "Move it or put a house number on it" applied....I probably spent twice as much time waitching my hair turn gray behind them I did shoveling my own gaping maw....
OK. I feel better now. I'm sure I will see them again at the airport this afternoon, when they will no doubt insist on standing on both sides of the moving walkway.
Analise
May 10, 05, 1:36 pm
I'm not a fan of buffets. Food standing out with others potentially touching the various selections make them very unappealing to me.
Jay71
May 10, 05, 6:04 pm
I used to love buffets in my impoverished university days. Now I only limit myself to the rare Sunday brunch or all you can eat sushi excursion (which brings you the food you tick on a list). And it's more for the variety than value since my appetite has gone way down since becoming a cubicle jockey.
Personally, if someone's holding up the buffet line, I try to go around them and come back to stuff they're monopolizing. I don't think they would/should mind. Obviously this may or may not work depending on a variety of factors.
frequentfoulup
May 10, 05, 6:16 pm
I'm not a fan of buffets. Food standing out with others potentially touching the various selections make them very unappealing to me.
Amen to that. The last buffet I went to, I went alone, didn't bring a book so I entertained myself by watching people in the lines. Don't ever do this if you actually enjoy going to buffets. I have not been back to any type of self serve restaurant since. :eek:
alanw
May 10, 05, 7:14 pm
Dude: go around.
caligirl
May 10, 05, 7:20 pm
It does make me think to myself what exactly is taking a full 3 minutes to ponder. Some people just come to a dead stop and freeze in front of a dish as if their soul has left the building. I usually just go around.
kingalien
May 10, 05, 7:59 pm
In addition to the slow movers, how about those that pick at the food to find the piece they want....arrgghhh!
francophile
May 10, 05, 10:03 pm
I'm not a fan of buffets. Food standing out with others potentially touching the various selections make them very unappealing to me.
This is assuming that the kitchen staff themselves maintain good hygiene.
mosburger
May 10, 05, 10:46 pm
I have had a few interesting experiences with buffets on social occasions in Japan and Korea. As locals are hypersensitive of the picture they present to others, buffets are regarded as potential minefields for losing one's face. Take too much, eat too quickly or in the wrong order and you might be considered a person of poor manners and upbringing who does not "belong".
Of course, overseas countries are considered out-of-bounds recreational areas in these two cultures so buffet behaviour there is a different story alltogether...
adamak
May 11, 05, 1:22 pm
I used to like buffets. Not anymore. It reminds me of what's wrong with this country's eating habbits. Quantity over quality. :(
Analise
May 12, 05, 8:02 am
This is assuming that the kitchen staff themselves maintain good hygiene.
That's a fixed variable. We all hope the kitchen staff maintains the best hygiene no matter where we go. When you take that and then add the public lining up to help themselves, you worsen the situation.
Strawb
May 12, 05, 8:29 am
That's a fixed variable. We all hope the kitchen staff maintains the best hygiene no matter where we go. When you take that and then add the public lining up to help themselves, you worsen the situation.
Not just kitchen staff, ALL staff including those not involved in the preparation of food and just serving it, I hope would have good hygiene standards. Unfortunately one can never be too sure. I was dining at Planet Hollywood at Gatwick Airport (before PH closed down many of their restaurants) and in this particular PH the toilets are not located within the restaurant but just outside around the corner. So when I went to the toilets I noticed one of the PH staff didn't even bother to wash his hands after doing what he had to do. I remember thinking, I hope he doesn't serve me. Back at the bar I ordered a drink and there he was, serving! Needless to say, I didn't order from him.
flygirl555
May 12, 05, 8:43 am
I used to like buffets. Not anymore. It reminds me of what's wrong with this country's eating habbits. Quantity over quality. :(
Absolutely agree!!!
Sanitary reasons aside (which could easily be a separate discussion thread)...
Our sense of a "portion size" is distorted and buffets are a free-for-all where it is easy to lose control. Eating (like most things in life) is all about making choices. To fit into clothes that make me feel sexy and beautiful, I choose to steer clear of buffets.
:)
francophile
May 12, 05, 10:05 am
I have had a few interesting experiences with buffets on social occasions in Japan and Korea. As locals are hypersensitive of the picture they present to others, buffets are regarded as potential minefields for losing one's face. Take too much, eat too quickly or in the wrong order and you might be considered a person of poor manners and upbringing who does not "belong".
Of course, overseas countries are considered out-of-bounds recreational areas in these two cultures so buffet behaviour there is a different story alltogether...
You bring up a very good point. I'm especially interested in your comments because one of things I enjoy most about Asia are wonderful buffets at posh hotels, such as the breakfast buffet at the Peninsula BKK, the lunch buffets at Oriental BKK, and the tea buffet at the Conrad HKG. So are there any pointers you can give about buffet etiquette?
John Galt
May 12, 05, 10:36 am
I used to like buffets. Not anymore. It reminds me of what's wrong with this country's eating habbits. Quantity over quality. :(Agree with that....I went from 277 lbs to the current 186 lbs (started the process on 1/1/2003, reached 190 about 9 months later) by forgetting what the restaurant industry tries to tell us about portion size and by writing down what I eat in excruciating detail. The phrase "not worth the calories" means something to me now.
That said, I still like being able to get in and out fast, as well as having a wider array of choices....and being able to take exactly what I want, rather than having the temptation of picking at way too much food the whole time I'm at the table...
Mary2e
May 12, 05, 12:13 pm
I'm not a fan of buffets. Food standing out with others potentially touching the various selections make them very unappealing to me.
I'm with Analise... I have to be really hungry without other options to consider eating at a buffet.
Jay71
May 12, 05, 2:12 pm
As we start getting OT here...
I've got to agree with flygirl555 as sanitary chatter can be huge different thread. Yeah, buffets can be pretty gross but so can a lot of restaurants. (Someone start a thread so I can share my stories as a bus boy and my friends' stories working at McDonalds. ;) )
I don't think buffets are necessarily "evil" :) because I go mainly for the variety now. (That's why I love tapas and communal eating so much - choose your portions & lots of variety.) I don't feel the need to stuff myself to get my money's worth either anymore because the "good" buffets cost just as much as I would spend ordering a la carte.
Kudo's to you, John Galt. 90lbs is awesome. I'm trying to work off 40lbs for my wedding. I've shed 20lbs in 8 weeks through cardio, weights, & diet and am constantly asking myself "Is it worth the calories?" also.
helenp
May 12, 05, 2:49 pm
haha! :D i like this thread, it made me laugh! i dont like buffets much, all the people milling around, too much potential for sneezing hehe ;0
mosburger
May 12, 05, 8:38 pm
francophile: You might have more experience than I do on the subject, but just my few Yen/Won:
I rarely invite new customers or contacts to buffet style eats, as it might lead to aforementioned unnecessary complications. Once the ice is broken and you are in a one-on-one or small familiar group setting, locals love nothing more than eating at luxury buffets without social pressure. As countries in this region are very family-orientated a Sunday brunch buffet invitation is a very good way of getting closer to people and their families.
What might lead to problems are buffets at company or official ceremonies and festivities as guests can feel inhibited because of peer pressure and enjoy the occasion less than they are supposed to.
the_nomad
May 22, 05, 12:18 am
Good Lord!
NEVER eat at buffets....... More people catch hep A from buffets than any other route.
I've seen parents let their kids just stick their hands in the food - like everyone else is supposed to be fine with that. We all know how kids like to pick their noses, bums, et c
HomerJ
May 30, 05, 4:28 pm
..if slick willie can have his inauguration brekkie there then it works for me...how can u argue with champers on a sunday morning??? who cares about whats being served on the buffet?? :)
francophile
May 30, 05, 10:31 pm
francophile: You might have more experience than I do on the subject, but just my few Yen/Won:
I rarely invite new customers or contacts to buffet style eats, as it might lead to aforementioned unnecessary complications. Once the ice is broken and you are in a one-on-one or small familiar group setting, locals love nothing more than eating at luxury buffets without social pressure. As countries in this region are very family-orientated a Sunday brunch buffet invitation is a very good way of getting closer to people and their families.
What might lead to problems are buffets at company or official ceremonies and festivities as guests can feel inhibited because of peer pressure and enjoy the occasion less than they are supposed to.
Thanks, mosburger.
By the way, I went to the Sunday Brunch and the Peninsula, Chicago yesterday. The service was disappointing. Our server was not attentive at all, and a bit condescending. The food selection was not as expansive as I would have like (I guess I'm spoiled by the spectaucular buffets at luxury hotels in Asia) but the quality was first-rate. Overall, I didn't feel I got my $60 (plus tax/tip) worth.
If any of you do visit Chicago, try the lunch buffet at both the Four Seasons and Ritz-Carlton. It's served Monday-Saturday. The food is excellent and a bargain at $24 including desserts.