View Full Version : Union says US Airways aims to cut 2,800 jobs


HPTunco
Oct 27, 04, 11:31 pm
What are the odds that these jobs will be coincidentially taken to Alabamy? I'm sure that Billy Bob can adapt his cleaning skills to removing the pen marks off of the FC seats!

All kidding aside, the IAM can, and may, shut down US Airways. They may be left with no choice if US gets the "Draconian" cuts that they're insisting on. The other major carriers will be next in line at the negotiating table at the IAM's expense.



http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04302/402969.stm

Union says US Airways aims to cut 2,800 jobs
Thursday, October 28, 2004
By Dan Fitzpatrick, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Bankrupt US Airways wants to cut its maintenance staff by as many as 2,800 people and farm out the work somewhere else, according to a top negotiator with the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers.

The proposal would eliminate US Airways' 1,000 airplane cleaners and cut another 1,800 workers elsewhere, leaving the company with about 1,700 unionized mechanics, ground support personnel and stock clerks, according to Bill Freiberger, assistant general chairman for the union's District 142.

The Pittsburgh area, where much of the company's heavy maintenance work is handled, would be hit hard. Although the company did not predict where the cuts would be made, Freiberger estimates that as many as 2,000 jobs could be lost locally.

It "would pretty much wipe out Pittsburgh," Freiberger said.

The proposed cuts, according to Freiberger, were part of a company presentation Tuesday that laid out what the airline wants from the IAM while in bankruptcy. US Airways, which is seeking $950 million in annual concessions from all unions, asked the mechanics for $220 million in annual cost savings. A day earlier, it asked the baggagehandlers, who are represented by the IAM, for about $100 million, according to union officials.

US Airways did not return calls seeking comment.

Although, the company also is asking for pension plan changes and pay cuts, the bulk of the savings it's seeking would result from the outsourcing of work currently done by union members, Freiberger said.

The IAM, which for months resisted any reopening of its contract, has little choice left but to negotiate. In less than three weeks, US Airways will ask a U.S. Bankruptcy Court judge to throw out the IAM's collective bargaining agreements absent a consensual deal. It is promising to do the same with the flight attendants and passenger service agents -- two other unions that have yet to reach new cost-cutting pacts. Any new contract would supersede a four-month, 21 percent pay cut imposed by the bankruptcy judge on Oct. 8.

At this point, resisting the negotiating process "can be used against you," Freiberger said.

The judge, according to bankruptcy law, is more likely to abrogate contracts if a union refuses to accept a company cost-cutting proposal "without good cause."

"You really have no choice," Freiberger said.

But the IAM is still vowing to put up a fight. It will try to meet the company's cost-cutting targets, but without the large number of job cuts outlined by the company Tuesday. Rank-and-file members, Freiberger said, will not be willing to approve what the company put on the table this week.

"Who is the hell is going to ratify themselves out of a job?" he said.

If the two sides cannot reach an agreement, an "ugly process" could begin, he said.. 'I don't know if the carrier will survive."

"The place would be in shambles," he said.

When asked if the IAM would consider a strike, Freiberger said that "nothing" has been ruled out. But Tom Miklavic, negotiator for the baggage handlers, admitted a strike "could happen" if the company and the union can not agree on cuts. IAM officials, he added, are discussing that possibility and examining their legal rights.

"This is new history," Miklavic said.

Miklavic expects to meet with the company again on Nov. 8.

(Dan Fitzpatrick can be reached at dfitzpatrick@post-gazette.com or 412-263-1752.)

BillMorrow
Oct 28, 04, 12:47 am
They have 1,000 aircraft cleaners?!?! What? Do these guys each work one day every other week? For the interior condition of the aircraft, this is unbelieveable!

US AIRWAYS FAN
Oct 28, 04, 3:56 am
If IAM does not want to take the cuts. Then people should be make their individually decision and leave the company. People who want to stay should stay and the ones who want to quit should go instead of holding the rest of the company hostage. Other unions have agreed to cuts and still want to work with US.

If individuals at IAM want to leave and go somewhere else then let them go.

One other thing that a friend of mine mentioned who use to be a judge is that the court could order IAM to go to work if they tried to strike. If they still did not go to work they would be held in contempt of court. I doubt things would go that far. But so far this judge has been in favor of US.

I really do feel bad for US and their employees. This is truly a sad time for all of them. :(

As far as the aircraft cleaners go some of them need to be fired. Some of the airplanes look like the planes have not been cleaned in quite some time.!

T

Spiff
Oct 28, 04, 6:48 am
They have 1,000 aircraft cleaners?!?! What? Do these guys each work one day every other week? For the interior condition of the aircraft, this is unbelieveable!

No kidding! There's 1,000 jobs that could be eliminated and no one would notice! :D

Arrzee
Oct 28, 04, 7:13 am
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"Who is the hell is going to ratify themselves out of a job?" he said.

If the two sides cannot reach an agreement, an "ugly process" could begin, he said.. 'I don't know if the carrier will survive."



So they're not willing to "ratify themselves out of a job", yet readily admit that the carrier might not survive... Interesting logic.

HPTunco
Oct 28, 04, 8:30 am
If IAM does not want to take the cuts. Then people should be make their individually decision and leave the company. People who want to stay should stay and the ones who want to quit should go instead of holding the rest of the company hostage. Other unions have agreed to cuts and still want to work with US.

If individuals at IAM want to leave and go somewhere else then let them go.

One other thing that a friend of mine mentioned who use to be a judge is that the court could order IAM to go to work if they tried to strike. If they still did not go to work they would be held in contempt of court. I doubt things would go that far. But so far this judge has been in favor of US.

I really do feel bad for US and their employees. This is truly a sad time for all of them. :(

As far as the aircraft cleaners go some of them need to be fired. Some of the airplanes look like the planes have not been cleaned in quite some time.!

T


This is all true......the judge could force the unions to show up for work. However, he can't make them perform their jobs. If it comes to this, we'll be looking at operational chaos.

The IAM rank and file won't "go somewhere else and work" until they've brought US down............

hscottm
Oct 28, 04, 10:46 am
I think an aspect that some of you are missing is that "there isnt anywhere else to go" for 2000 people - what, are they all going to apply for the same few jobs that might open up somewhere? Even if someone were to be omniscient enough to know "they" would be the one to be fired, why vote for something that will cost you a job?

Faced with no other options, its back to the "pay til the last day" argument.
Theres no glory from being a martyr here and offering to quit, sit home with no job, and let the few who would keep their jobs vote.

I'm not condoning work stoppages, etc - just trying to shed light on why some/all of these employees might have such thoughts.

HPTunco
Oct 28, 04, 10:51 pm
The article mentions the next meeting on November 8th. I'd expect things to be quiet until then, but after that anything could happen.

This issue is much bigger than PIT or US Airways. It's about the IAM's position within the airline industry. Should US be successful, as they already have been with the help of the BK judge, the entire airline industry will pursue the same work standards and wages.

Yes, men with no other recourse will have no problem with running US into liquidation. With most in this category, the stalemate is inevitable.

flymeaway
Oct 29, 04, 9:41 am
People who want to stay should stay and the ones who want to quit should go instead of holding the rest of the company hostage.


The problem with that is two-fold...first, those people who want to quit have no other options if they wish to stay in the airline biz. Who else is hiring?

Second, who will replace those that do leave? Would you go work for a company that is operating under US's current conditions, when most analysts are saying it's just a matter of time till they cease operations?

ALCARLOS
Oct 29, 04, 11:39 am
I know of very few companies that have the cleaning staff on the company payroll. Is there a strategic advantage for any airline - especially USAirways- to not outsource cleaning? If not, unfortunately it must be done.

Spiff
Oct 29, 04, 12:33 pm
I know of very few companies that have the cleaning staff on the company payroll. Is there a strategic advantage for any airline - especially USAirways- to not outsource cleaning? If not, unfortunately it must be done.

At US Airways, does "outsource" mean "ignore"? :D

HPTunco
Oct 29, 04, 12:36 pm
I know of very few companies that have the cleaning staff on the company payroll. Is there a strategic advantage for any airline - especially USAirways- to not outsource cleaning? If not, unfortunately it must be done.

I would agree with this, with two issues/obstacles:

1. Cleaning an aircraft "should" be more involved than cleaning a toilet in the terminal.

2. The cleaning staff, ramp personnel, baggage handlers AND mechanics are in the same union. They will band together on the issue of outsourcing making the conversion difficult.

US may fight and win this battle for all airlines, but in the end lose the war. :rolleyes:

GotCalcio4
Oct 29, 04, 1:42 pm
No kidding! There's 1,000 jobs that could be eliminated and no one would notice! :D


LOL :D I honestly thought the EXACT same thing before I even read your post. Seriously, they must work about one day a week or something because the airplanes are in awful condition.

HPTunco
Oct 31, 04, 9:35 pm
There will be massive cuts in PIT anyway with the dimished flight schedule. US also, more than likely, be interested in dumping pilots and FA's from PIT since most of them have to deadhead to and from work.

The 737 fleet is decrepit, either needing an overhaul or to be sold to SouthWest :D . US could fly an all Airbus fleet (at least for mainline) with maintenance for the Airbus' contracted out to anybody with a big enough garage in Alabama. This, of course, makes the maintenance facility at PIT expendable.

When this headline says 2800 jobs, it's probably pretty close to the truth no matter what scenario plays out. :td: