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thaitraveller
Jul 11, 04, 8:13 am
Can someone please point me to the online tools that let you get a sense of the availability of seats on flights. I need to standby today for an earlier flight out of JFK on UAL.
Thanks so much for your help.

Jespersm
Jul 11, 04, 8:24 am
Can someone please point me to the online tools that let you get a sense of the availability of seats on flights. I need to standby today for an earlier flight out of JFK on UAL.
Thanks so much for your help.

Try this one - it's excellent. It takes seconds to install and works perfectly.
There is a limitation though: It up running for two hours, and then down for the next five in order to reduce traffic. But try it....

http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~hartberg/ft/SabretoolSetup.htm

iwillflytheworld
Jul 11, 04, 11:22 am
Or you can use http://flyaow.com/classual.htm . Select one way, the time at which you'd like to stand by, United as preferred airline, and you'll see the availability.

GoodKarmaGuy
Jul 11, 04, 9:11 pm
My new favorite:

www.itn.net

I had used this before and never seemed to quite get it. umguy recently patiently explained to me that I needed to click on "Display Preferences" (after registering first... I had never registered) and change my setting to "expert. Voila! Works perfect.

I want to go standby on Tues, RIC-SFO, to get on US metal and it showed lots of seats I hope will still be open! MY problem: my flight is looking sold out/over!

Now, do I hope for a bump and risk the dbl EQM? :confused: Probably not.

nako
Jul 11, 04, 9:17 pm
I second ITN. It often takes some tinkering to get the exact flights you're looking for, but it is one of the best out there.

Mike

amartin1979
Jul 11, 04, 11:05 pm
dont forget that UA uses the ITN booking engine... one of the reasons I like booking on united.com. I can see the fare class availability. ^

lavedder
Jul 12, 04, 10:12 am
dont forget that UA uses the ITN booking engine... one of the reasons I like booking on united.com. I can see the fare class availability. ^

Where do you click on united. com to see the fare class availability?

flyaow
Jul 12, 04, 11:39 am
Where do you click on united. com to see the fare class availability?

You get direct access without having to click anything to the United tool at http://flyaow.com/classual.htm

You can get direct access to the standard ITN (Amex) tool without having to click anything at:
http://flyaow.com/classamex.htm

You may also enjoy using the other tools that are available on the net that are highlighted at http://flyaow.com/class.htm

Cheers!

lavedder
Aug 29, 04, 11:33 pm
I'd like to standby on earlier flight on AA this Friday. I can't seem to get all those sites listed above to work. Can someone explain it step by step to me? I don't need to find a particular fare availibility, just any open seat will do.
Thanks.

lavedder
Aug 30, 04, 11:25 am
After tinkering with the sites listed above for a long while, I've got it. :D

bostonbali
Aug 30, 04, 11:51 am
My new favorite:

www.itn.net

I had used this before and never seemed to quite get it. umguy recently patiently explained to me that I needed to click on "Display Preferences" (after registering first... I had never registered) and change my setting to "expert. Voila! Works perfect.

I want to go standby on Tues, RIC-SFO, to get on US metal and it showed lots of seats I hope will still be open! MY problem: my flight is looking sold out/over!

Now, do I hope for a bump and risk the dbl EQM? :confused: Probably not.

ITN Doesn't work well on CO flights - use this instead: http://www.optimalmove.com/flyertalk/galileo.html

onofre
Aug 30, 04, 1:15 pm
Is there any way to get the itn.net site to show the award booking codes and availibility for UA flights?

Such as: R0 X2 O0 I0 N8

Thanks!

rolyjp
May 12, 07, 7:08 am
My PC crashed and I lost all my favorites and links. In the past I used a tool that gave me seat and class availability for all flights including reward and upgrade inventory. For some reason I can no longer find this anywhere. I've searched every post of this forum and others and still haven't found it. The site included an index describing the meaning of every code. Any suggestions?

twoner32
May 12, 07, 7:51 am
Try this one - it's excellent. It takes seconds to install and works perfectly.
There is a limitation though: It up running for two hours, and then down for the next five in order to reduce traffic. But try it....

http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~hartberg/ft/SabretoolSetup.htm

I just found this today. I downloaded it almost 3 years later and it downloaded ok, but gives me error msgs every time that I use it.

Thoughts or advice on this one? I'd LOVE to have a tool like this.

tracon
May 12, 07, 8:59 am
This site was mentioned a few days ago on FT:

www.seatcounter.com

Not sure how it works for all airlines. For UA, type in UA UA for the preferred airline and it comes up with award and upgrade availability.

KVS
May 12, 07, 11:18 am
I just found this today. I downloaded it almost 3 years later and it downloaded ok, but gives me error msgs every time that I use it.

Thoughts or advice on this one? I'd LOVE to have a tool like this.That Tool has been discontinued as of Mar 2005. You can find a link to its 'successor' below:

DiscoPapa
May 12, 07, 11:39 am
I like this one a lot, too. It's in German, but if you follow the link, Google automatically translates it.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.infosys.de%2Fnurabfra ge%2F&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools
Enjoy!

stria4
May 16, 07, 10:31 am
My new favorite:

www.itn.net

Excellent tip. Thanks!

hiyo
May 20, 07, 5:48 pm
This AOW AMEX ITN Tool (http://flyaow.com/classamex.htm) still works. It only shows revenue buckets, no award or upgrade availability. No registration required. There's even a seat map.

And you never know what currency the final price will show up in - SEK, NZD, it's all over the place. The base price is in USD, but the taxes and final price are generally in some other currency.

I only use it to scout out bump possibilities.

1Banker
May 23, 07, 1:40 pm
I just found this today. I downloaded it almost 3 years later and it downloaded ok, but gives me error msgs every time that I use it.

Thoughts or advice on this one? I'd LOVE to have a tool like this.

You might try this: http://availability.publicbackup.com
Various seat buckets work, but the seat map is a java applet that I can not get to open. Maybe somone can solve this problem for both of us.
Or just give a better site where everything works.

sheepherder
May 23, 07, 1:51 pm
This site was mentioned a few days ago on FT:

www.seatcounter.com

Not sure how it works for all airlines. For UA, type in UA UA for the preferred airline and it comes up with award and upgrade availability.

What other airlines than UA does seat counter show award and upgrade availability?

Thanks eo seatcounter I was able to get a 25,000 mile award on a UA flight when you had said there was no availabilty for saver awards between the two cities.

flyaow
May 25, 07, 12:02 pm
There are 2 fairly comprehensive guides to the various tools. The first is here on flyertalk: http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312559

The 2nd we host at http://flyaow.com/class.htm

If you have any good tools to add let me know!

Cheers!

travellingcari
Jun 20, 07, 5:13 pm
Excellent tip. Thanks!

I went back in to check an upcoming flight and it now seems to re-direct to AMEX?
https://www134.americanexpress.com/consumertravel/travel.do

Tried to search to see if this had been mentioned, but ITN is too short of a string to search on apparently?

flyaow
Jun 20, 07, 5:17 pm
You can find the working link at: http://flyaow.com/class.htm
(Select AMEX ITN Tool)

Visiting www.itn.net directly will not yield the fare buckets unless you register as an advanced user. The AMEX ITN Tool doesn't require registration.

Cheers!

travellingcari
Jun 20, 07, 5:18 pm
You can find the working link at: http://flyaow.com/class.htm
(Select AMEX ITN Tool)

Visiting www.itn.net directly will not yield the fare buckets unless you register as an advanced user. The AMEX ITN Tool doesn't require registration.

Cheers!

I had *just* come back to this thread to edit to add that I got access via http://publicbackup.com/shared/flyertalk/availability/ - silly bookmarking error on my part. Sorry!

:)

A1pax
Aug 17, 07, 5:57 am
since seatcounter.com appeared to be down today, I tried amex itn availability tool via flyaow, but it kept giving an error message that there was a problem. Am wondering if anyone has had the same problem?

flyaow
Aug 17, 07, 11:21 am
Hello,

Can you please try http://flyaow.com/classamex.htm and let us know if it is working correctly for you now? I think I fixed the problem.

Thank you!

A1pax
Aug 17, 07, 4:05 pm
Hello,

Can you please try http://flyaow.com/classamex.htm and let us know if it is working correctly for you now? I think I fixed the problem.

Thank you!

Thank you flyaow. Yes, I have tried it again and this time it worked perfectly. :) Before I thought the problem was me and my machine! Keep up the good work.

flyaow
Aug 17, 07, 8:50 pm
Unfortunately the bulk of the free availability checkers out there rely on a very old backend interface from ITN. As those backend interfaces dry up (websites getting updated to newer interfaces) the options become more and more limited.

There are a few non-ITN based tools available too. Details can be found at: http://flyaow.com/class.htm

If you notice the current Amex tool goes does, please PM and let me know and we'll see what we can do to tweak and get a little extra life out of it. (But it will go away eventually I am fully confident unfortunately.)

Cheers!

A1pax
Aug 18, 07, 12:49 am
Unfortunately the bulk of the free availability checkers out there rely on a very old backend interface from ITN. As those backend interfaces dry up (websites getting updated to newer interfaces) the options become more and more limited.

There are a few non-ITN based tools available too. Details can be found at: http://flyaow.com/class.htm

If you notice the current Amex tool goes does, please PM and let me know and we'll see what we can do to tweak and get a little extra life out of it. (But it will go away eventually I am fully confident unfortunately.)

Cheers!

Thanks, flyaow. Since I have used the availability tool very infrequently (once a year for an overseas trip), I did not want to subscribe to the paid tools as such. I got a free trial with KVS last year for the trip made last year, but it expired.

I will need to use the Amex tool on and off in the next 4 weeks, so I will let you know if it goes down.

tinkybelle
Aug 18, 07, 1:28 am
that link in post 17 is fantastic!
pitty it doesnt show u and z for qantas:mad:

easiest avail tool I have ever used
good to see the flyaow back again. didnt it used to show u and z with qantas?

wzwjon
Aug 18, 07, 1:53 am
I like this one a lot, too. It's in German, but if you follow the link, Google automatically translates it.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.infosys.de%2Fnurabfra ge%2F&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools
Enjoy!

Does anyone know if this can be used to check the seatplans? Also, what is the SABRE command?

Thanks!

hgp
Aug 18, 07, 2:44 am
I like this one a lot, too. It's in German, but if you follow the link, Google automatically translates it.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.infosys.de%2Fnurabfra ge%2F&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools
Enjoy!

This is a very handy website. Does anyone have a list of instructions/codes? Thanks.

flyaow
Aug 18, 07, 11:28 am
There are a few basic Sabre commands that work:

All commands start with "1"

Then you enter the date in the form of day followed by 3 letter code for month.

Then you follow it with origin city 3 letter airport code and destination city 3 letter airport code.

If you want a particular time of day enter the hour followed by A or P for AM and PM.

If you want direct flights on a particular airline enter @ followed by the 2 letter airline code.

If you want connection flights on a particular airline enter # followed by the 2 letter airline code.

So, for example, if you want the list to prioritize non-stop American Airlines flights on August 30th around 1pm from SFO to JFK you would enter:

130augsfojfk1P@aa

Note that Sabre will always just prioritize what you have asked for, and then also include other things (like connections, other times, etc.)

If you want to force a connection through a particular city add that code at the end. So for instance to get all AA flights from SFO to LGA connecting in St. Louis leaving SFO around 1pm try this:

130augsfolga1pstl

If you want flights arriving at a particular time add /time to the end. So for example:

130augsfojfk/230p

will give you flights from sfo to jfk arriving around 2:30 pm.

If you want to look at a particular fare bucket modify the ending as -F (where F is the bucket)

So 130augsfojfk-f will give you F bucket availability from SFO to JFK on August 30th.

If you want to check return flights on a later date enter 1R followed by the return date. So after the above command

1R14SEP would give availability from JFK-SFO on September 14th.

Enjoy!

P.S. I forgot to add if you want to check U on Qantas for instance, just do this:
130augsydlax-u

which will check U bucket for SYD-LAX on August 30th.

flyaow
Aug 18, 07, 12:33 pm
P.S. Seat maps would normally be requested for segment 1 as 4g*1, but the system seems to be blocking all but segment one availability searches. So no seat maps on that system that I can figure out.

hgp
Aug 19, 07, 1:46 am
Is it possible to call up more information on any given flight? Maybe distance, flight time, seat maps?

Thanks

KVS
Aug 19, 07, 2:24 am
Is it possible to call up more information on any given flight? Maybe distance, flight time, seat maps?No, the above-mentioned Sabre interface is strictly limited to basic availability queries only.

For a more comprehensive solution see, for example, http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2804833#post2804833

flyaow
Aug 19, 07, 10:17 am
There are a variety of other tools available that can do those things. You can find two fairly comprehensive lists at these addresses:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312559

and

http://flyaow.com/class.htm

Cheers!

SchmutzigMSP
Aug 19, 07, 10:20 am
Is it possible to call up more information on any given flight? Maybe distance, flight time, seat maps?

Thanks
As far as simply tracking flights, try http://www.flightaware.com/

tinkybelle
Aug 21, 07, 2:10 am
seatcounter is still not working for me.:mad: