View Full Version : Your unlocked Luggage or sandwich? What is next


mkcubs
Mar 6, 03, 4:01 pm
Don't know if everybody has seen the story on Drudge or Smoking Gun how a TSA screener, they were the only group of people with access to the room, stole another TSA employee peanut butter sandwich.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/peanutbutter1.html

If they steal from each other then it's probably not a big deal to take something out of your luggage.

And they demand to have access to your luggage! Amazing what travelers end up putting up with.

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tsadude
Mar 7, 03, 7:55 pm
We had a president lie about having sex. There are bad apples in every bunch. This is not anything new.

tazi
Mar 7, 03, 9:17 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by tsadude:
We had a president lie about having sex. There are bad apples in every bunch. This is not anything new.</font>


We have had presidents lying about having sex ever since ... well, ever since there have been presidents. Yes, there are bad apples in every bunch. The unfortunate part of this whole story might be that there exists a real problem for TSA workers where securing their own items is concerned. It's unfortunate that it had to come to light by means of a pilfered PBJ.

Now then, are airport TSA employees provided a means to lock up their personal belongings while they man the screening checkpoints? If not, they certainly should be. Of course, this would not have guaranteed the security of the pilfered sandwich as refrigerated areas are not generally secured regardless of where you work. It would though, prevent the theft of wallets or purses or any other personal item of value.

It may have been just a PBJ but it was her PBJ and she should not have to worry about having it stolen. This may seem like a petty incident but it is no different than any of us being concerned about locking our luggage when we fly. It's our stuff ****it and we should not have to expose it to theft regardless of who the thief may be. In the case of the PBJ, the culprits are very limited. In the case of our luggage, they are not.

So tell me TSA people, why is her PBJ more important than the stuff we pack in our checked baggage? Not only are we expected to trust you, and your PBJ pilfering co-workers, but we also have to trust all the baggage handlers who have already been proven to be thieves. Can't you understand why we are concerned?


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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin

Cholula
Mar 7, 03, 11:47 pm
Somewhat off topic but just curious...how does the Des Moines airport come under an International designation?? I'm sure there are no direct Int'l flights into DSM and I can't think of an airport where it would even be an alternate except possibly for ORD or MSP.
Anybody have any info here??

essxjay
Mar 8, 03, 6:04 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by tsadude:
We had a president lie about having sex. There are bad apples in every bunch. This is not anything new.</font>

Bad argument.

Lying about having sex with someone other than your wife is one thing; lying about it under oath is quite another. In fact, we have a term for it. It's called perjury. Doesn't matter what the lie is about. Perjury is perjury.

tsadude
Mar 8, 03, 7:23 pm
This is the most stupid thing I have ever seen reported. A freaking PBJ sandwich was taken from a lunch box. This could have been a practical joke gone bad, but the news thought this to be something worth reporting?

tazi
Mar 8, 03, 8:21 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by tsadude:
This is the most stupid thing I have ever seen reported. A freaking PBJ sandwich was taken from a lunch box. This could have been a practical joke gone bad, but the news thought this to be something worth reporting?</font>

I'm still trying to figure out how you managed to compare this story to a president's infidelity http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttravel_forum/confused.gif



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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
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CameraGuy
Mar 8, 03, 9:34 pm
The point is that we are supposed to trust that TSA Screeners will NOT steal from our luggage, yet they steal from themselves!?

rawbert
Mar 9, 03, 9:29 am
You are questioning the reporting by the media? What you should be questioned is why this agent reported this to law enforcement in the first place. This shows a total lack of common sense. It appears to me that TSA employees still have way to much time on their hands

I must say though, I am pleasantly surprised that the TSA didn't evacuate the terminal until a full search could be conducted with with PBJ detecting dogs.

rawbert

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by tsadude:
This is the most stupid thing I have ever seen reported. A freaking PBJ sandwich was taken from a lunch box. This could have been a practical joke gone bad, but the news thought this to be something worth reporting?</font>

tsadude
Mar 9, 03, 1:10 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by tazi:
I'm still trying to figure out how you managed to compare this story to a president's infidelity http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttravel_forum/confused.gif


Morals. Just because you have a government job of trust does not mean every single person has them. There are low lifes in the TSA and that is a fact. Any industry and the government has them,every single one.

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tsadude
Mar 9, 03, 6:00 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by rawbert:
You are questioning the reporting by the media? What you should be questioned is why this agent reported this to law enforcement in the first place. This shows a total lack of common sense. It appears to me that TSA employees still have way to much time on their hands

I must say though, I am pleasantly surprised that the TSA didn't evacuate the terminal until a full search could be conducted with with PBJ detecting dogs.

rawbert

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This whole thing is stupid. I knew a lady who had $20 dollars taken and she had just started. She did not get bent out of shape. We passed the hat to help her out and gave a stern warning that if someone was caught stealing that they would receive some wall to wall counseling.

Cholula
Mar 9, 03, 7:27 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">gave a stern warning that if someone was caught stealing that they would receive some wall to wall counseling.</font>
Perhaps a more suitable warning would have been termination and possible prosecution. It's not the amount of the theft that's involved here but rather the principle. When a person's job requires handling other's belongings, there's no room in that organization for those caught with "sticky fingers" http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttravel_forum/wink.gif

UALOneKPlus
Mar 10, 03, 2:48 am
I couldn't have said it any better http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttravel_forum/thumbsup.gif

Theft of any amount or object should result in termination. Who's to say that terrorists can't bribe someone who's willing to bend their morals to steal a tiny bit or a lot?

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Cholula:
gave a stern warning that if someone was caught stealing that they would receive some wall to wall counseling.</font>
Perhaps a more suitable warning would have been termination and possible prosecution. It's not the amount of the theft that's involved here but rather the principle. When a person's job requires handling other's belongings, there's no room in that organization for those caught with "sticky fingers" http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttravel_forum/wink.gif