Has anyone stayed at the Pavillon de Paris hotel on ave Parme ? I usually stay at the Hotel d'Aubusson when in Paris but their prices are getting a little out of control lately and the Pavillon de Paris looks like a similar property at least from their website www.pavillondeparis.com (http://www.pavillondeparis.com)

If anyone has stayed here and can tell me about the hotel that would be great.

I don't know this hotel, it's not in my favorite location, and looks pricey.
Found here:
http://www.hrs.com/
a better price (DBL 183 Euro) for this hotel.
I recently booked Novotel Tour Eiffel **** on priceline.com for $100. It's the former Nikko, nothing special, but O.K. You should start bidding with $80 or so.
Liked Villa Alessandra 17th Arr., 220Euro. and also Hotel Lennox St. Germain. Both are in nice, interesting areas.

Sorry, I don't know the hotel, but I do live a block away from the Hotel d'Aubusson so I can reliably say that the neighborhoods are very different.

The rue de Parme is a small street between two main north-south arteries: the rue d' Amsterdam and the rue de Clichy. You are pretty much between the Gare St-Lazare and Montmartre - the neighborhood is not bad, it's just not as central as the Hotel d'Aubusson in the 6th. A few blocks to the north is the Place de Clichy which is pretty seedy, especially at night.

Blair...:
You are correct. St. Germain is a very nice area. I liked the Lennox, St. Germain, Rue Universite, a lot. Only 3 stars, nice but small rooms. Nearby Hotel Universite has 4 stars.
This time I found "Bon Marche - Rive Gauche/St,Germain/Montparnass" or so. They have a very good food department, almost like Harrods, KADEWE in Berlin or Dean & Deluca in NY and Napa Valley.


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The Bon Marche is excellent - that food store is called La Grande Epicerie and is top notch.

Alright, you guys have convinced me to book a thanksgiving trip to paris. I'm out of yoghurt and chocs.

I heart the grande epicerie- one stop shopping at Sevres-Babylone.

lala

http://www.lagrandeepicerie.fr/fr/html/accueil/accueil.asp

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One can trust residents of France to put a gastronomic spin on any conversation http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttravel_forum/tongue.gif

now i'm checking upgrade availablity.

Maybe I can bring the big rollaboard and a nice cooler bag for all that cheese...

lala

Thanks for all the responses. Blairvanhorn: thanks for the info. That was my biggest concern re the neighborhood. St Germain where I usually stay is the best area to be. So much to do at night but I am worried about the area around ave Parme as you said. Do you think it will be ok to stay there ir should I forget it.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by TMOTEE:
Thanks for all the responses. Blairvanhorn: thanks for the info. That was my biggest concern re the neighborhood. St Germain where I usually stay is the best area to be. So much to do at night but I am worried about the area around ave Parme as you said. Do you think it will be ok to stay there ir should I forget it.</font>

I think the neighborhood is perfectly fine - you are within easy walking distance of the large department stores, the Opera are, Montmartre, etc. Public transport is very good.

At night it is probably much quieter that Saint Germain, except for the Place de Clichy neighborhood which I mentioned above - that is pretty seedy and not much fun.

How long are you staying? One of the major attractions to a city like Paris (for me) is to be able to walk out the door of your hotel at any time and start exploring (and feel comfortable doing so). I think the Pavillon de Paris would be fine for this during the day, but much less interesting at night.

I agree with you blair. I really love the St Germain area because of the nightlife. As I said I have stayed at the d'Aubusson for the past 5 years and I really love it. But is seems they raise prices about 15-20% every year. Now for this Nov they are at 250 Euros. Up from 220 Euros I paid last year and with the US dollar almost equal to the Euro now it is not quite the deal it has been in the past.

I have also just found another hotel in the area called La Villa Saint Germain. Seems very sleek and modern which I like. It is on Rue Jacob. I am familiar with the area. Do you know the hotel ?

Yes, I know La Villa - it's about three blocks from the d'Aubusson, on the corner of the rue Jacob and the rue Bonaparte. An excellent location (just down the street from the very good Hotel Lenox, which USAFAN mentioned above).

There is a new Ladurée (well-known Parisian bakery) that just opened directly across the street. http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttravel_forum/smile.gif La Villa was done in the late 80s by a young French designer and was quite hip - it was looking a bit dated and has been refurbished from what I hear. There is a small bar/jazz club on the property and you can't beat the neighborhood. I believe the rooms are fairly small, as are many in Paris.

FWIW, the d'Aubusson opened a few years ago after extensive renovations and investments. I think they kept their prices "low" at first to build up a steady clientele and are now raising them steadily each year. I have seen this happen before with other Parisian hotels.

Thanks. I think I will go for La Villa. their website looks very nice and yes the hotel had a full renovation about 1 yr ago according to the site.

I agree with you re the d'Aubusson. I was on e of the first to start going there and have been back 2 times per year ever since. I really hate to give it up but overall by going somewhere else I am essentially getting 1 night as a bonus due to reduced price.

The d'Aubusson has a 3 star sister hotel on rue jacob also called Millesime hotel. Looks very similar to the d'Aubusson bot not quite as plush. Do you know anything about it ?

Originally posted by TMOTEE:
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">The d'Aubusson has a 3 star sister hotel on rue jacob also called Millesime hotel. Looks very similar to the d'Aubusson bot not quite as plush. Do you know anything about it ?</font>

I didn't know this, but it doesn't surprise me: both properties appear to be very nice and well-kept from the street. Millesime is about a half block back up the rue Jacob from La Villa towards the rue Dauphine. It is on a much smaller scale than the d'Aubusson (looks like a pocket-size lobby and reception area) and less formal (think "country French").

Again, the location and the neighborhood are great.

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