A search only brought up "stopovers" on award travel, so I thought I'd ask for more info on purchased tkts.
I'm assuming a stopover is defined as staying longer than "necessary" at a connecting point on the way to a destination (E.G., on PWM-PIT-PHX, staying longer in PIT before cont. on to PHX.)
So, if my assumption is correct, how long can I stay in PIT on the original tkt? I seem to recall 24 hrs from another post; is that correct?

4 hours is the allowed amount of connection time before it is considered a stopover.

BTW, I had a great time at the Do in your city over the weekend. It was my first time in Maine. It was just too bad about the rain on Saturday.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Alysia:
4 hours is the allowed amount of connection time before it is considered a stopover.

BTW, I had a great time at the Do in your city over the weekend. It was my first time in Maine. It was just too bad about the rain on Saturday.</font>

4 hours domestic, 24 hours international.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Alysia:
4 hours is the allowed amount of connection time before it is considered a stopover.</font>
I stand corrected. So does a stopover require different ticketing?
(My goal, BTW, is to see my newly arrived niece near CAK on the way to PHX. I thought that if I had 24 hours, I could connect through PIT, rent a car, see the new addition, then drive back to PIT next morning, and on to PHX. All w/o having to add a PIT-CAK routing into my tkt.) With this scenario in mind, anyone have any ideas?

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by producer:
(My goal, BTW, is to see my newly arrived niece near CAK on the way to PHX. I thought that if I had 24 hours, I could connect through PIT, rent a car, see the new addition, then drive back to PIT next morning, and on to PHX. All w/o having to add a PIT-CAK routing into my tkt.) With this scenario in mind, anyone have any ideas?
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Shoot. Tough call. An award ticket would be perfect if only you weren't going to PHX afterwards, and seeing your niece is a pittance compared to flying PIT-PHX in Y. Couldn't do it. Nope.

Do a premium award, and then if you decide to stay in Akron with your family longer, it's no problem to switch.

Unfortunately, unless you take the last flight of the evening into PIT and get on the first outbound flight in the AM, you can't stay over.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by producer:

(My goal, BTW, is to see my newly arrived niece near CAK on the way to PHX. I thought that if I had 24 hours, I could connect through PIT, rent a car, see the new addition, then drive back to PIT next morning, and on to PHX. All w/o having to add a PIT-CAK routing into my tkt.) With this scenario in mind, anyone have any ideas?

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Why not look at doing a circle trip, say PWM-CAK-PHX-PWM? You could use the US website to do this (select more cities option). You could go to another travel site (Expedia is one I like to use for this, Orbitz or Travelocity would work too), find out the flights you like and then come back to US to book.

Another option would be look at the cost of 2 RT's, one PWM-CAK, and one CAK-PHX. This method, if cost efficient, can help add DM to your account!

Instead of CAK, you could also try CLE (Cleveland)... sometimes CAK cheaper, sometimes CLE. You just need to search and see. Depending on where they live near CAK, CLE might be just a close distance-wise.

My folks live about 10 minutes south of CAK, so I know all the tricks in and out of there. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

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A "Mileage Run"... is that what they're called? I've been doing them for years and didn't know they had a name.

Just pricing out a trip BUF-NYC-LGW. In the fare rules, it says a stopover is allowed. I was flabbergasted - I thought stopovers were only good on awards.

Now, this is an international ticket, and the only stopover I could see would be in NYC, but still, the fact that stopovers are allowed on purchased tix was news to me.

BTW, it was a K fare ticket.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Alysia:
[B]4 hours is the allowed amount of connection time before it is considered a stopover.


Well, technically, 4 hours OR the first available outbound flight.

Ex: you book yourself A to C connecting in B

IF after you arrive there are no more scheduled flights that evening your onward connection is the FIRST flight the next morning.

Same aplllies for the 24 hour international rule, but usually extremely difficult to make work for you.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by producer:
Originally posted by Alysia:
4 hours is the allowed amount of connection time before it is considered a stopover.</font>
I stand corrected. So does a stopover require different ticketing?
(My goal, BTW, is to see my newly arrived niece near CAK on the way to PHX. I thought that if I had 24 hours, I could connect through PIT, rent a car, see the new addition, then drive back to PIT next morning, and on to PHX. All w/o having to add a PIT-CAK routing into my tkt.) With this scenario in mind, anyone have any ideas?



Well, perhaps you could stretch the connection out as long as possible and meet your relatives at the airport with them driving to PIT. CAK-PIT is not an especially long drive and there are plenty of places around the airport to grab lunch.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Well, technically, 4 hours OR the first available outbound flight.</font>

Not quite -- try a mid-day example. You're not required to take the next flight -- just one within 4 hours. If I'm in no special hurry I often book a later connection than neccesary because I don't care to run from one end of the terminal to the other. Curling up in the Club with a good book is ok with me!

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Ex: you book yourself A to C connecting in B

IF after you arrive there are no more scheduled flights that evening your onward connection is the FIRST flight the next morning.

Same applies for the 24 hour international rule, but usually extremely difficult to make work for you. [/B]</font>

I'm not so sure this works very well either -- I know I had a bear of a time getting flights on CO from San Jose to MHT because there was a 4.5 hour gap between arrival in EWR and departure for MHT. Seems like this rule should have fixed that problem (different airline, I know, but they all seem to copy each other on rules like this...) I haven't had a chance to try something like this with US though.

Here's another stopover question:

In November I'm flying Envoy to LGW from DCA - but I am doing it with a stopover in CLT to spend Thanksgiving with the folks. On the day of my DCA-CLT flight, do I get lounge access since its an Envoy ticket? Or will that not be allowed since I'm not flying to LGW until several days later?