ddorrer
May 10, 02, 4:57 pm
How can I convert FF miles to 100% cash? I do not want e-credit, just cash. Does anyone know of a web site that does this?
Not "legally" within their rules. But there are brokers and such that "buy" your miles. Since it's not acceptable practice, you'll unlikely get any advice on it here.
2DCALGA
May 11, 02, 11:09 pm
Actually, I would be interested in learning about this too. Most of the stuff here like learning how to do challenges and get lots of bonus points are not "acceptable." And an airline certainly would not sue someone for just selling their own miles...much too expensive to litigate.
pitflyer
May 12, 02, 10:00 am
The easiest way to sell miles is to go to ebay, sell a white paper envelope with 'access to XXX miles' as a free gift. Then the person who buys the miles from you pays the money and you book tickets for them using the miles.
However, the airlines are wise to this trick and most likely will catch you (eventually) and then probably get rid of all your miles and ban you from the program. They don't have to start legal action since THEY control the miles.
So try it at your own risk. It's not for me.
CLTFlyer
May 12, 02, 10:53 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by 2DCALGA:
Actually, I would be interested in learning about this too. Most of the stuff here like learning how to do challenges and get lots of bonus points are not "acceptable." And an airline certainly would not sue someone for just selling their own miles...much too expensive to litigate.</font>
I disagree. Challenges and bonus points are allowed under the rules of the program. Selling your miles for cash is not.
And it's not really that expensive to litigate that kind of case - not as if the airline has to prove a lot - especially, if they have someone watching EBay - and noting who is selling miles. Investigative work can be done by the company's revenue protection unit (you've got 'em, you may want to use 'em), and then those results can be used to support the lawsuit. They can file their complaint for a grand total of $75 in the great State of North Carolina - and wait for the member to respond. It's more expensive for the member to be involved in litigation since they don't have in-house counsel, or local counsel who already do work for them - unlike the carrier. This kind of thing is something that insurance policies won't provide you an attorney for - so if you risk doing this - you're the one that has to pay.
So, if you want to do something like this - that's your thing. I wouldn't risk it.
steve100
May 12, 02, 4:13 pm
Here is somebody selling 800,000 Air Canada Aeroplan miles on eBay (currently at $6,100)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1352119031
Beckles
May 12, 02, 7:33 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by 2DCALGA:
And an airline certainly would not sue someone for just selling their own miles...much too expensive to litigate.</font>
No, they'd just close your account and move on ...
freakflyer
May 13, 02, 8:37 pm
Convert miles to Hilton points. Hilton points to HIlton poker chips. Go to Vegas, cash them in.