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This thread is a continuation of discussion which began HERE in 2011.
Referrals and self-referrals are an important part of churning Canadian-issued American Express cards. It is appropriate to discuss how the referral process works in this thread. However, please do not offer or request referrals here.
Use only this thread, and do read the Wikipost carefully before posting:
Referral Offers (post only in this thread, no referral links, read Wiki post first).
JerryHung: I figure I'll include all CURRENT AMEX Canada offers here (no referral links) for anyone curious about what the bonus and fees are
This is not an all-inclusive list, only the "good" offers, so feel free to add new offers
AMEX Platinum - $699/year, 60K MR (via referral) after $1000 spending in 3 months vs. 50K non-referral
AMEX Gold Rewards - $150/year, FYF, 25K MR after $500 spending + $50 cashback from GCR
AMEX Air Miles Platinum - $65/year, FYF, 2000 Air Miles after $500 spending + $30 GCR cashback
New as of 2014/10/09
AMEX Business Gold - $250/year, FYF, 30K MR after $5000 spending (or 40K via referral)
AMEX Business Platinum - $399/year, 40K MR after $5000 spending (or 50K via referral)
Referrals and self-referrals are an important part of churning Canadian-issued American Express cards. It is appropriate to discuss how the referral process works in this thread. However, please do not offer or request referrals here.
Use only this thread, and do read the Wikipost carefully before posting:
Referral Offers (post only in this thread, no referral links, read Wiki post first).
JerryHung: I figure I'll include all CURRENT AMEX Canada offers here (no referral links) for anyone curious about what the bonus and fees are
This is not an all-inclusive list, only the "good" offers, so feel free to add new offers
AMEX Platinum - $699/year, 60K MR (via referral) after $1000 spending in 3 months vs. 50K non-referral
AMEX Gold Rewards - $150/year, FYF, 25K MR after $500 spending + $50 cashback from GCR
AMEX Air Miles Platinum - $65/year, FYF, 2000 Air Miles after $500 spending + $30 GCR cashback
New as of 2014/10/09
AMEX Business Gold - $250/year, FYF, 30K MR after $5000 spending (or 40K via referral)
AMEX Business Platinum - $399/year, 40K MR after $5000 spending (or 50K via referral)
Churning Amex in Canada (2014)
#46
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, Fairmont Platinum, Aeroplan Diamond, HHonors Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 18,686
Definitely some differentiation between the cards now.
#47
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Detroit
Programs: NWA, AC., SWA, AA.,UA, HH
Posts: 165
I have been Amex Canada free for almost a year
time to decide what to do I see:
Aeroplan Gold @ 30K Aeroplan after $500, 1st Year Free / Air Miles Platinum @ 1250 AM after $500, FYF / Gold/Platinum @ 25K/60K MR after $500/$1000, FYF
posted
should i get one now? If so what do most of you recommend?
Any other ccs you recommend churning?
Thaks
Jigger
time to decide what to do I see:
Aeroplan Gold @ 30K Aeroplan after $500, 1st Year Free / Air Miles Platinum @ 1250 AM after $500, FYF / Gold/Platinum @ 25K/60K MR after $500/$1000, FYF
posted
should i get one now? If so what do most of you recommend?
Any other ccs you recommend churning?
Thaks
Jigger
#48
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
I have been Amex Canada free for almost a year
time to decide what to do I see:
Aeroplan Gold @ 30K Aeroplan after $500, 1st Year Free / Air Miles Platinum @ 1250 AM after $500, FYF / Gold/Platinum @ 25K/60K MR after $500/$1000, FYF
posted
should i get one now? If so what do most of you recommend?
Any other ccs you recommend churning?
Thaks
Jigger
time to decide what to do I see:
Aeroplan Gold @ 30K Aeroplan after $500, 1st Year Free / Air Miles Platinum @ 1250 AM after $500, FYF / Gold/Platinum @ 25K/60K MR after $500/$1000, FYF
posted
should i get one now? If so what do most of you recommend?
Any other ccs you recommend churning?
Thaks
Jigger
I'd get them all, since they're first year free
But it's really up to your preferences, some cards are more for travel than others
#49
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: YVR
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 216
Churning Amex in Canada
I have recently applied for the Aeroplan Gold but didn't get the instant approval. The last time when I applied for an Amex and not got instant approval, they did call me soon afterwards to confirm something then approved my application right away. Do you think it's likely that my card application was rejected ?
#50
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 6,385
What would be the reasons you figure?
Its a world of difference shelling out $700 for an annual fee, as opposed to $500, as opposed to a couple hundred.
I'm hoping that Amex Plat can restore the AE bonus transfers that existed prior to MPC Gold introduced. I really miss that bonus transfer.
Its a world of difference shelling out $700 for an annual fee, as opposed to $500, as opposed to a couple hundred.
I'm hoping that Amex Plat can restore the AE bonus transfers that existed prior to MPC Gold introduced. I really miss that bonus transfer.
I have been Amex Canada free for almost a year
time to decide what to do I see:
Aeroplan Gold @ 30K Aeroplan after $500, 1st Year Free / Air Miles Platinum @ 1250 AM after $500, FYF / Gold/Platinum @ 25K/60K MR after $500/$1000, FYF
posted
should i get one now? If so what do most of you recommend?
Any other ccs you recommend churning?
Thaks
Jigger
time to decide what to do I see:
Aeroplan Gold @ 30K Aeroplan after $500, 1st Year Free / Air Miles Platinum @ 1250 AM after $500, FYF / Gold/Platinum @ 25K/60K MR after $500/$1000, FYF
posted
should i get one now? If so what do most of you recommend?
Any other ccs you recommend churning?
Thaks
Jigger
#51
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Canada
Programs: *void
Posts: 2,408
I have recently applied for the Aeroplan Gold but didn't get the instant approval. The last time when I applied for an Amex and not got instant approval, they did call me soon afterwards to confirm something then approved my application right away. Do you think it's likely that my card application was rejected ?
But, an Amex rep once explained to me that their instant approval system is not 'strong' enough to handle many concurrent applications, so often it fails to give you an instant answer. So, not getting an approval right away does not necessarily reflect Amex's initial assessment of you. If you weren't instantly approved, call them and quote the reference number that you got at the end of your application process.
I'd suggest you call them either right away, or the next day, and get the application process moved along.
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#52
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: YYZ (YUL/LHR)
Programs: AC - E50, CX - G, Accor Plat, SPG Gold
Posts: 903
I have been Amex Canada free for almost a year
time to decide what to do I see:
Aeroplan Gold @ 30K Aeroplan after $500, 1st Year Free / Air Miles Platinum @ 1250 AM after $500, FYF / Gold/Platinum @ 25K/60K MR after $500/$1000, FYF
posted
should i get one now? If so what do most of you recommend?
Any other ccs you recommend churning?
Thaks
Jigger
time to decide what to do I see:
Aeroplan Gold @ 30K Aeroplan after $500, 1st Year Free / Air Miles Platinum @ 1250 AM after $500, FYF / Gold/Platinum @ 25K/60K MR after $500/$1000, FYF
posted
should i get one now? If so what do most of you recommend?
Any other ccs you recommend churning?
Thaks
Jigger
As a pure sign up and churn card, 30k AP is a great deal, and it also opens up referral opportunities if you know co-collectors since your buddies get more than the off the street deal, however for most people, certainly myself, over the course of a year, the regular Gold rewards with double points in gas-grocery-pharmacy-travel categories ends up accruing more over a year notwithstanding the sign up is 5k less. Gold Rewards also allows greater flexibility in redeeming.
I have recently applied for the Aeroplan Gold but didn't get the instant approval. The last time when I applied for an Amex and not got instant approval, they did call me soon afterwards to confirm something then approved my application right away. Do you think it's likely that my card application was rejected ?
A 2 minute call to the new accounts department (they should have given you a phone number and reference # when you applied) will resolve all; I had on on hold for some time because there was an odd piece of data on my TU history so I had answered one of the ID questions wrongly.
#53
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: YVR
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 216
But, an Amex rep once explained to me that their instant approval system is not 'strong' enough to handle many concurrent applications, so often it fails to give you an instant answer. So, not getting an approval right away does not necessarily reflect Amex's initial assessment of you. If you weren't instantly approved, call them and quote the reference number that you get at of your application process.
I'd suggest you call them either right away, or the next day, and get the application process moved along.
#54
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Aeroplan Diamond, SPG Plat, Hilton Gold, Marriott
Posts: 1,839
I have recently applied for the Aeroplan Gold but didn't get the instant approval. The last time when I applied for an Amex and not got instant approval, they did call me soon afterwards to confirm something then approved my application right away. Do you think it's likely that my card application was rejected ?
By calling them, you can actually negotiate with them even your application was rejected initially, and they can review your application again.
#55
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: AMEX AC CX UA AA DL
Posts: 3,008
It's not the first time in AMEX Canada Platinum history to reduce significant airline benefits ("Canadian Plus Club" - Empress Lounge, AA, and lounges at overseas CP destinations), but kept the same annual fee, if not increased it. I told them in writing that it's a rip off (in a polite way). The president's assistant called and basically said take it or leave it.
#57
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: YYZ
Programs: AP, A3 Gold, SPG Plat
Posts: 11
Catching up on my reading in this thread. First time contribution. I applied for Cathay Pacific MPC (thru Amex Plat) in late Nov 2013 and received it early 2014. The membership card said valid thru Dec 2014.
#58
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, Fairmont Platinum, Aeroplan Diamond, HHonors Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 18,686
It's not the first time in AMEX Canada Platinum history to reduce significant airline benefits ("Canadian Plus Club" - Empress Lounge, AA, and lounges at overseas CP destinations), but kept the same annual fee, if not increased it. I told them in writing that it's a rip off (in a polite way). The president's assistant called and basically said take it or leave it.
Looks like the benefit is going south soon. Hopefully, fast track renewal for you is in the horizon.
#59
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: YYZ (YUL/LHR)
Programs: AC - E50, CX - G, Accor Plat, SPG Gold
Posts: 903
What the Plat statements read as saying is that enrollment to MPC will no longer be offered from March 31, 2014. I would understand this, combined with the fact that beep88 is enrolled until Dec. 2014, and the fact that this is how it works in the UK, to mean that although renewals are only running until 11/2014, new enrollments can get a free years until 3/2015. If this is correct, for anyone interested in CX, the coming months are a very good time to sign up to Plat.
#60
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: YYC
Programs: Aeroplan E50K, Marriott Titanium/Lifetime Platinum, Accor Diamond
Posts: 274
I applied for the Amex Gold this past Friday and received the non-instant approval message, so after reading this thread I called Amex today to enquire as to what the status was and she indicated that they were waiting to confirm my ID with my bank and were going to email me a form confirming my banking information which I could then PDF back to Amex and they would send it to the bank. I thought this was rather odd as I already have an Amex Plat, Aeroplan Gold, and SPG Amex (recently cancelled). Needless to say she said she still had to go through the process. Five minutes after getting of the phone, she called me back to say that she didn't have to go through this process after all and my card would be shipped out to me today!