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For discussion of retention bonuses on Starwood Amex cards, see Annual fee retention bonus for Starwood Amex card.

Retention's department:
(800) 452-3945

Everyday Preferred
10/13/15
2.5K points not to cancel, and 5k points for 1K spend within three months, Total 7.5K points, or in the alternate, a $75 statement credit or gift card.
1/15/16 - 16k spend - first renewal - offered $50, no MR offer - accepted
3/14/16 - 98k spend - first renewal - offered $100 or 15k MR - took the 15k.
11/18/16 -50k spend - first renewal - offered $100 or 15k MR - took the 15k.

Platinum OPEN/Business
6/11/15 - 8.5k spend - 2nd renewal - offered $100 or 10k MR - deferred on offer (see post #314)
8/18/2015 - 90k spend - 2nd renewal - first two times I called, no offer. Final time I asked explicitly to cancel, was offered $350 statement credit.
12/18/2015 - 10k spend, first renewal. Offered 10k MR, cancelled.
1/6/2016 - 10K spend, about 8 weeks after account opening - offered $50 credit or 7.5K MRs, took MRs.
4/29/2016 - 15k spend, 3 months after opening. No offer other than downgrade to BGR.
6/16/2016 - 15k spend to get signup bonus (in Jan 2016). Minimal spend after. Took a lot of nudging - including explicit request to cancel card -- but was offered 10k MR to keep open. No spend requirement.
9/29/2016 - offered $100, didn't catch whether there was a spend requirement, i canceled as I have a personal Platinum card and the go-go passes weren't worth having two.

Business Gold Rewards
10/10/15 - Offered 10K MR. declined and closed
12/26/15 - Offered 10K MR or $100 Credit, counter offered $150 or 15K MR. They offered me 15K MR..accepted.
1/26/16 - Offered 15k MR, counter offered $150 and 15k MR, offered either but not both. Accepted 15k MR. $20k annual spend. Opened account 1/2015.
2/2/16 Offered 15k MR. Accepted 15k MR. $40k annual spend. Opened account 3/2015.
2/4/16 Offered 15K MR. Accepted 15K. About a $15K annual spend.
3/5/16 Offered 15K MR or $100 credit. Took the 15K MR. Minimal spend.
5/23/16 Offered $50, then $100, then 15k MR. Accepted 15k MR. Also let me change the 3x category in the middle of the year.
6/9/16 7500 MR offer, even pushed for 10k or 15k. Minimal spend. AF just posted. Left as-is, going to wait till closer to 60 day mark.
6/11/16 7500 MR offer, about 30k spend. AF due in two weeks. Took it.
6/20/16 No offer. ~$10k spend. Wanted to close the card anyway so did it.
9/30/16 Offered $50 statement credit. (<$5K spend) That was all. Didn't take it and cancelled card
10/04/16 Offered $50 statement credit or 7,500 points or pay the annual fee of $175 with 17,000 points instead of 25000 points. (<$9K spend) Didn't take it any of them and cancelled card

Personal Platinum
1/11/16 - 5K points immediately, 15K points for 3K spend within three months. $22K spend in 2015.
1/17/16 - 5K points immediately, 10K points for 2K spend within two months. $560 spend in 2015.
1/26/16 - $200 "loyalty credit" without requirements. $18k spend in 2015 (~50k total Amex spend in 2015). Cardholder for 3 years.
1/27/16 - 5K points immediately + 10K points for 2K spend within 60 days, or $100 credit. Took the points.
1/29/16 - 5K points immediately + 10K points for 2K spend within 60 days, or $100 credit. Took the points. Cardholder 3 years; $17k spend last year.
2/3/16 - 5K points now and 10K points after $2K spend in 60 days. Rep had to "dig deep" into my account to find this "unique and very special" offer (Yeah, right). Accepted.
3/31/16 - Only offer was $100 statement credit. $15k spend last year.
04/19/16 - $200 statement credit for being loyal to amex (cardholder for 2 years $65k spend).
4/29/16 Initial offer $200. HUCA 5k MR immediately, 15k MR after 3k spend in 60 days.
8/12/16 - 40K MR immediately. Card holder for 7 year, $55K spend in 2015 (Post #1015)
8/19/16 - 5K points immediately, 15K points for 3K spend within three months or 200$ statement credit. Card holder only for 1 year but amex customer for 8 years
8/19/16 - called before AF hit, offered $200 credit, accepted, not a ton of spend after hitting minimum spend for signup bonus, Amex customer since 2013 with 3 other cards but generally don't spend that much on Amex (maybe $10k/year)
8/25/16 - $200 Statement credit or 20k points for 3k spend within 3 months. Amex for 6 years, plat for 1 year. 40k spend across all amex.
9/9/16 - $200 Statement credit, $20k spent on this last year
9/9/16 - $200 Statement credit. ~$14K spend this year.
9/10/16 - 25k MR (no spend req). $11k in spend last yr. Tough sell from AX.
9/12/16 - 15k points after $2k spend in 3 months. ~$7k in spend
9/21/16 - 25k points or $200, no spend req. ~5k spend
9/29/16 - 25k points, no spend req. ~$20k in spend during past year
10/6/16 - 40k points, no spend req. ~$35k in spend during past year
10/7/16 - 25k points, no spend req. ~$22k T12 spend
10/8/16 - 25k points or $200, no spend req. ~$10k spend during past year
10/17/16 - 25k points or $200, no spend req. ~$5k spend during past year. took the points.
10/29/16 - 25k points or $200, no spend req. ~$11k spend during past year. took the points.
11/14/16 - 25k points or $200, no spend req. ~$15k spend during past year. took the points.
11/19/16 40k points or $400, no spend req. ~$45k spend during past year.

Platinum Mercedes Benz
9/30/15 - 5K points immediately, in addition to 15K points for 3K spend within three months. 20K points Total to retain card.

Platinum Ameriprise
7/21/16 Offered $200 or 20k MR. Accepted $200 statement credit to offset the $450 AF for all 4 cards in the account. 35K spent

SPG Personal
12/4/15 - $25 loyalty statement credit
2/3/16 - $25 loyalty statement credit but did allude to a potential bonus when the SPG card goes away; referenced the $200-300 bonus offered to Costco Amex holders being asked to convert to Sams Club Amex products
3/1/16 - $25 loyalty statement credit
6/14/2016 - $25 plus 3,000 SPG points - Had to ask Supv for the addl. 3,000 pts.
7/6/2016 - $25 or 1500 points after $1000 spend. Canceled card. $25k spend last year.
7/15/2016 - $25 loyalty statement credit. HUCA, HUCA, declined, cancelled card. $10K spend last year, less recently.
8/10/2016 - Paltry $25 or 500 points + additional 1000 points after $1000 spend (total of 1500) in 3 months. I have another ~60 days for af to lock in, so will call again in ~30 days. $35k spend last year, but less than $1000 / month this year.
8/16/16 - Offered $50 or 7,000 SPG points, $48K spend, took the points.
8/24/16 - Offered $50 or 7,000 SPG points, $13K spend YTD, took the points.
8/25/16 - $25 loyalty statement credit, $5K YTD spend. HUACA resulted in the same offer (even with a symethic agent that noted my 15 years of membership).
9/13/16 $95 credit with +- $40K spend. Fast & easy
9/17/16 $25 or 1500 SPG points after $1K spend. Cancelled the card
9/17/16 Called after renewal fee posted. Offered 5,000 SPG points - $40K spent on this card.
9/18/16 $50 or 7k. ~$80k spend.
10/1/16 $25 offer ~$15k spend. Cancelled card.
10/7/16 $50 or 7k. ~$76k T12 spend.
10/27/16 ($7K spend in last 12 months, first renewal) $25 statement credit OR 500 Starpoints + 1,000 Starpoints for $1,000 spend in next 3 months
11/11/16 ($4k spend this year) We respect your decision. Goodbye.
12/16/16 Member since 1995, spent $25k in 12 months, was offered 7k points. Love SPG points so didn't enquire about any of the other credits.

SPG OPEN/Business
8/3/15 - called with intent to cancel, $18k spend last year, offered $100 one-time statement credit - accepted.
8/12/15 - called with intent to cancel, $15k spend last year, offered only $50 one-time statement credit - accepted
12/14/15 - called with intent to cancel, $15k spend last year, AF hit 90 days ago with $0 spend since then. Offered $100 one-time statement credit.
1/14/16 - called with intent to cancel or product change to no fee Simply Cash card, $10-12k spend last year, $65 AF hit 30 days ago with $0 spend since then. Offered $100 one-time credit to keep card.
8/29/16 - called to cancel & they didn't offer any retention bonus so we canceled it. Only had min. spend last year.
10/1/16 - retention offered 5K SPG pts.
10/19/16 - offered $25 credit. Spend last year ~$15k.

DL Skymiles Platinum OPEN/Business
5/28/15 - called with intent to cancel, card opened 9 months, initial min spend (1.3k) only - offered simply cash open, declined, closed.
03/10/15- the date is date of miles post, do not remember original request date, no offers until reaching the retention department, 15k miles offered with 50k spend
11/4/15 - called to see what retention offer would be $60K spend offered nothing. sm
12/10/15 - Called again to actually cancel, got 25K skymiles. Kept card open. sm
04/26/16 - Called again, 3k bonus as good will to keep open. Will HUCA for 3rd time.
10/23/16 - called to cancel told me they have nothing to offer as I took advantage of the 25K miles last year. Said also they will remove the companion travel cert in my account if I cancel. I have until mid Nov and will call again

Premier Rewards Gold
6/12/15 - 1st renewal. Called 5 days after fee posted stating not happy about losing 15k bonus. Offered 10k MR now and 10k after $3k spend in 60 days. Accepted. $40k spent last year.
11/2/15 - Offered 20K MR. $130K spend in previous year.
1/14/16 - Offered $50 statement credit + $50 credit if meet $500 spend in 60 days. ~$8k spend previous year.
1/21/16 - Offered 5k MR + 15k MR with $3k spend in 60 days or $75 credit + $75 credit if $1k spend in 60 days. ~$25k in spend last year
2/11/16 - Offered 2.5k MR + 5k MR with $1k spend in 60 days or $50 credit + $50 credit if $500 spend in 60 days. ~$25k in spend last year
2/23/16 - Offered 5k MR + 15k MR with $3k spend in 60 days . ~$33k in spend in my first year
4/12/16 - Offered $50 statement credit + $50 credit if meet $500 spend in 60 days. ~$10k spend previous year.
4/22/16 - 1st offer - $50 statement + $50 credit after $500 spend in 60 days. 2nd offer - 2.5k MR + 5k MR with $1k spend in 60 days (took 2nd offer) ~10k spend previous year.
6/9/16 No offers. Minimal spend. AF just posted. Left as-is, going to wait till closer to 60 day mark.
6/26/16 - Offered $175 or 25k MR. $135k spend.
6/20/2016 Phoned and requested transfer to retention dept. After a brief explanation of benefits, I was offered $50 statement credit and $50 additional statement credit after $500 spend in 60 days. Took the offer.
7/25/2015 1st anniversary, 25k spend. Offered upgrade to platinum with 10k + 50k MR. Lengthy talk with Retention who finally offered only 7.5k MR for $1k spend in 92 days. Very disappointed. Declined. HUCA. 2nd call on the 60th day: offered and took the 50+50 offer.
8/19/2016: Presented with 2 offers: (1) $50 statement credit now and $50 statement credit after spending $500 within 60 days (2) 2,500 MR points now, and 5,000 MR points after spending $1,000 within 90 days.
11/2/2016: $100 credit no spend needed

DL Skymiles Gold
6/2015 - Have had card since 1991 and have never asked for a retention offer. $30k spend annually except for the last year with $1k spend. Flat out denied hard for any retention. Paid AF b/c my oldest card.
1/2016 - Have had card for ten years+, usually around $10,000/year spend. Never asked for retention bonus before. Given two choices: 1) 1000 miles immediately and 2000 more miles for $1000 spend in 60 days or 2) $75 statement credit. Took the $75.
5/2016 - Had card for 3 years, never asked for a retention. Spend is probably only around $2K/year. Was not offered any miles or credit.
6/15/2016 - 15k offer. Have had card since 1995. <1k spend last year. Took 15k

DL Skymiles Gold Business
9/24 - under $1k spend in last 12 months, no offer. They said they don't have a retention department.
4/18/2016 - Had card for 1 year with 2K spend. Asked for the nature of my small business, what expenses and travel requirements I have for my business. Given two choices: 1) 7,500 miles immediately to offset $95 AF or 2) switch to a generic no fee Amex. Took the 7,500 miles.


Hilton HHonors Surpass
1/2016 - spend > $40k, 2nd year had card, offered $50 statement credit or 5000 points
4/2016 - Offered $75 statement credit or 10k points. Took the credit.
6/2016 - Offered 500 HH points now and another 1K after spending 1K or $25. Took the $25.
9/2016 - spend > $40k, 2nd year had card, offered $50 statement credit or 5000 points. Took the credit.
11/2016 - Spend $5k on this card, $55k in last year across all Amex accounts. 1st anniversary, offered $25 statement credit or 1,000 points. Cancelled.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 5:35 pm
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: UA, DL, AA, US, SQ, TK, SPG, HH, CC, Avis, Hertz, Thrifty, Enterprise, Chase UR, Amex MR
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Spoke to Claudio in FLL. Offered additional $200 airline reimbursement credit for US/AA, wouldn't budge on any thing else after 10 minutes. This is my second call. AF rebill date is 3/28. Wouldn't note on the account that I'm likely to cancel.

Reasons given
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US/AA Lounges - gone I was there on the last day, other AMEX Plat's. On the return, I could not get in.
signup bonus - once and gone
Global entry - already a member
Delta - no companion at lounge anymore
Airline reimbursement - I don't check bags, I don't pay ancillary fees
Concierge service - I gave them one task and they blew it
Priority pass - Useless at BWI
SPG Gold does help with Wifi costs if I book at SPG, but lounge access is spotty
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At first I just put these reasons to convince them that I should get some MR, but I ended up convincing myself as well. If it weren't for a dire need to get 20K more points to reach an award ticket I want I would definitely cancel. I may still cancel and go for the SPG Amex.

Tomorrow is another day.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 6:01 pm
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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It's purely a hit and miss; I believe it's dependent on the agent you get. Mrs. had the Plat card, really didn't want it and called in to cancel. Agent offered 15K MR and $100 credit. She barely used the card. I've charged around $13K on mine.

I called in and said the $450 was high and loss of the AA lounge is an issue. Offered only $100 credit. HUCA. Another rep referred back to the original agent's offer and would not go further. Waited a couple days and then called again. Got to "Loyalty" or Membership Services, whatever they call it. I didn't beat around the bush, I said my wife was provided more incentive than that but agent held firm. Decided $100 AA credit wasn't worth it. Canceled.

Then I asked about PRG and if there were anything they can do with that. Agent said no. Fed up with all the HUCA, I just canceled that as well. Then I said what about Business Gold... agent said it was another department and would transfer me. Wound up with Business Gold agent, who then tried to call back the same department. Agent was told by them that there was no retention offer for me. However, the Business Gold agent was willing to give me MR points to stay.

So, in summary, be careful how your first approach is. And it's the luck of the draw. If you wind up with an agent who is unwilling, and made notes in your account, then that's the line all the agents will likely tow if they read it.

At this point, I've got 3 more AMEX cards, and I'm eyeing all of them to be cut save the one without a fee.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 6:06 pm
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Originally Posted by mastermind85
Holy crap, when trying to cancel my AMEX Platinum card they said I would have only until midnight tonight to redeem my miles and that the policy has changed... anyone else come across this?
It's a scare tactic. As long as you have an eligible card associated w/ your MR account, you will not lose any.

However, if you do not, you are supposed to have 30 days, IIRC.

My advice is to always have a free version of it linked to MR and then go to it.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 6:29 pm
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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I have a personal Amex since 97 and plat business since 2012.
I spent a nice of money on my plat card this past yr.
I called up about the lounge prob and he gave me 25k points and 100$
He told me the 100$ is for me as a gift to go out somewhere with my wife for supper!!!
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 7:13 pm
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Programs: WN CP, Hyatt Plat, Marriott Gold, Carlson Gold, AA Gold
Posts: 350
Originally Posted by mastermind85
Did they mention how long you had to redeem rewards?
They told me I couldn't redeem after the call. I had about 300 pts in my account. I looked up my membership rewards immediately after - I was able to log in but my balance could not be retrieved.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 7:22 pm
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Join Date: Feb 2014
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Originally Posted by luv2ctheworld
It's purely a hit and miss; I believe it's dependent on the agent you get. Mrs. had the Plat card, really didn't want it and called in to cancel. Agent offered 15K MR and $100 credit. She barely used the card. I've charged around $13K on mine.

I called in and said the $450 was high and loss of the AA lounge is an issue. Offered only $100 credit. HUCA.
Yeah they don't know it but I think I'm not willing to cancel. They say they already granted me the extra $200 airline credit which they may have I don't remember. I am really gunning for some MS to get 20K by July, and I"m not willing to roll the dice on cancel and app for SPG Amex.

Just curious, "HUCA" ?

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Old Mar 26, 2014, 8:03 pm
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Originally Posted by diamondeye
Just curious, "HUCA" ?
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 12:20 am
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SAN
Programs: HH, UA,
Posts: 41
PRG Retention

Just wanted to give a data point for my PRG. This was very difficult. First 2 calls I was told to cancel or downgrade to the green card. No concern to keep me as a client for the PRG. Finally the third call I was transferred to the retention department and she made a big deal of pointing out the benefits of the PRG and reluctantly offered 25k bonus MR points. I asked if that was the best she could do and if only I could have seen the expression on her face. She was incredulous that I could even ask that after being offered 25k MR. (I was looking for the 25k points plus bonus MR with spend or plus no fee). I accepted and one of the items that helped me with her was that I've been with Amex since '96. I've had the PRG for 1 year, did 30k spend last year, mostly non-bonused. This year will be all bonus spend!
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Old Mar 28, 2014, 12:52 pm
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: BOS
Programs: AA ExP || SPG Plt || Honors Diamond || UA Silver
Posts: 171
Had a PRG for 1 year. Called the number on back of the card and chose "cancel a card". Was told no retention offer can be given to me. Hang up. Planning to call them again later...
Used this card for only ~5k purchase last year, mostly 2X and 3X categories. I know I don't have a high chance of getting a huge retention offer... Just want to keep this card because rumor said we can no longer churn it...
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Old Mar 28, 2014, 3:30 pm
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SAN
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PRG 25k Retention

Another data point, I persuaded my wife to call and look for a retention offer. Her call went way better than my previous attempts. She asked for the retention department and said the fee was high and if they could do anything for her. He offered her 25k to renew, phone call was not even 5 minutes. Lucky for me it went so well! She spent 30k last year and an Amex member under her name only since 2002. I am loving Amex these days.
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Old Mar 29, 2014, 7:05 pm
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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Called about PRG. Spent less then 10k last year, though mostly in bonus categories. Was not offered anything in first call, wasn't even sent to retention. Called second time, asked for retention and was given 10k plus 5k after 2k spent. Will probably take it as I'm going for the extra 15k after 30k spent and I'm not sure about AMEX cards after the new rule starts in May.
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Old Mar 30, 2014, 7:55 pm
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: BWI
Programs: WA,AA,BA,SPG,HH
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Called in about my PRG fee: Mr. X, If you are going to cancel, I will waive your annual fee.

She went on to say this three times. I clarified. To her "waive" meant "refund". No S you'll refund my fee, it's not even due yet! Lost in Translation...

HUCA.
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Old Mar 31, 2014, 8:56 am
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Location: ATL
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Made my call today. Agent offered me the choice of $200 statement credit or 25,000 MR points. Been a Plat card holder for 1 year with about 35k in spend in that time. Been an amex card holder since 1999. Also reiterated the $100 AA/US credit that is good until the end of the year.
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Old Mar 31, 2014, 3:37 pm
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Join Date: May 2012
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called reg my PRG annual fee.... Approx 6k in spend last year mostly in 2x categories...Was offerred 10k bonus MR points plus additional 5k MR points after 2k spend. With all the different ways to earn airline points, i am still not sure if this is worth the $175 fee unless i go for the $30k annual spend.

I really want to go for the 30k bonus but afraid of the amex FR. Would i be at high risk of FR if i did 2-3k/mo @ grocery stores/pharmacies?

Thanks!
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Old Mar 31, 2014, 5:34 pm
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: BWI
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Originally Posted by 98Mike
Called in about my PRG fee: Mr. X, If you are going to cancel, I will waive your annual fee.

She went on to say this three times. I clarified. To her "waive" meant "refund". No S you'll refund my fee, it's not even due yet! Lost in Translation...

HUCA.
On my 2nd call got the same reply.. cancel and we'll remove the fee, no other options.

DP: ~$4500 in spend, 2 calls... no retention offer
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