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For AA's announcement of their new One-Way Flex Awards, see: http://www.aa.com/i18n/amrcorp/newsr...FlexAwards.jsp
For AA's FAQ on the new One-Way Flex Awards, including the new stopover rule, see: http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?...award_faqs.jsp
Note that free stopovers have been eliminated as of 8 April 2014, so that portion of this discussion is no longer current.
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For AA's announcement of their new One-Way Flex Awards, see: http://www.aa.com/i18n/amrcorp/newsr...FlexAwards.jsp
For AA's FAQ on the new One-Way Flex Awards, including the new stopover rule, see: http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?...award_faqs.jsp
Q: Do one-way awards include any stopovers?
A: Awards between North America and Europe, India, Asia, and Central / South America allow a stopover at the North American gateway. However, other one-way awards do not allow stopovers.
A: Awards between North America and Europe, India, Asia, and Central / South America allow a stopover at the North American gateway. However, other one-way awards do not allow stopovers.
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New One-Way Flex Award / Awards, <NO> Stopover Rule, and Booking Engine (May 9, 2009)
May 10, 2009, 10:24 am
#76
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: SAT
Programs: AA EXP BA Gold, TK Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, AS 100K, QR PLT, SAS Gold, IHG Spire, AMR
Posts: 5,898
I appreciate that others appear to welcome the addition of one way awards and don't care about the subtraction of stopovers, but I am the opposite.
Has anyone confirmed that this change applies also to All-Partner awards?
If so, my plans to use my 600k miles were just blown out of the water.
If United does not match American's elimination of a stopover at the international gateway, I will probably try to earn United miles instead of American miles at the margins.
Has anyone confirmed that this change applies also to All-Partner awards?
If so, my plans to use my 600k miles were just blown out of the water.
If United does not match American's elimination of a stopover at the international gateway, I will probably try to earn United miles instead of American miles at the margins.
I am with you... the loss of international stopovers is a big deal to us. I really don't care for another day in NYC, LAX, DFW, MIA.
I guess HNL and SJU are okay, but really not what I need either.
But, as far as I understand it this rule includes North American gateways, so MEX, YYR etc should still be included, right?
May 10, 2009, 11:27 am
#77
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 184
The one way thing isnt really a big deal to me ... I might save 10K miles every couple of years or so, but really no big deal. The loss of stopovers (if it turns out to be true), however, puts a huge dent in how much I value the my miles.
May 10, 2009, 11:39 am
#78
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: San Diego, CA
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 183
Good point. I hope it turns out to not be true.
The one way thing isnt really a big deal to me ... I might save 10K miles every couple of years or so, but really no big deal. The loss of stopovers (if it turns out to be true), however, puts a huge dent in how much I value the my miles.
The one way thing isnt really a big deal to me ... I might save 10K miles every couple of years or so, but really no big deal. The loss of stopovers (if it turns out to be true), however, puts a huge dent in how much I value the my miles.
May 10, 2009, 11:43 am
#79
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SFO
Programs: ANA, JAL, AA
Posts: 64
Flight 1: JFK/EZE
Miles Used:20,000
Flight 2: EZE/MVD
Miles Used:12,500
Flight 3: MVD/JFK
Miles Used:20,000
No free stopover at Buenos Aires
May 10, 2009, 11:52 am
#80
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: San Diego, CA
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 183
I guess that's confirmation. Anyone tried to book a partner award with an international gateway stopover?
May 10, 2009, 11:54 am
#81
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 184
Overall the changes are a big negative for me. The EVIP complications (increasingly harder for me to find affordable upgradeable fares) already had me looking around, so I wonder how this new stopover rule compares to other carrier mileage programs??
Last edited by WalkinBackToTexas; May 10, 2009 at 12:04 pm
May 10, 2009, 1:01 pm
#84
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Cerritos, CA
Programs: AA Plat; HH Gold; Marriott Silver; UCLA Fan
Posts: 798
Are you sure you want to use 12,500 miles to go from Buenos Aires to Montivideo? It's a quick 45-minute flight to go a short distance, which can be done on public transportation (I've done it on Buquebus--(google it), without having to utilize two international airports--the one in Buenos Aires is a long ride from town and requires a check-in 2 hours before your flight because it's international.
May 10, 2009, 1:05 pm
#85
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Try it over the phone -- and try it a few times if necessary -- to find out what the precisely worded limitation is.
May 10, 2009, 1:13 pm
#86
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SFO
Programs: ANA, JAL, AA
Posts: 64
Are you sure you want to use 12,500 miles to go from Buenos Aires to Montivideo? It's a quick 45-minute flight to go a short distance, which can be done on public transportation (I've done it on Buquebus--(google it), without having to utilize two international airports--the one in Buenos Aires is a long ride from town and requires a check-in 2 hours before your flight because it's international.
I just show it as an example that no free international stopover is allowed.
May 10, 2009, 1:47 pm
#87
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: New Orleans, AA EXP, DL PM, SPG PLT, HH Diamond
Posts: 3,750
Still confused about the following scenario (or something similar): Say you depart from FCO(on a late morning/noon flight to LHR-using BA, since no award seats are available on AA). The FCO flight will not allow enough time to make a connection to U.S. so the next connection is the next day? Is this allowable if you take the first flight out the next day?
May 10, 2009, 1:51 pm
#88
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: New Orleans, AA EXP, DL PM, SPG PLT, HH Diamond
Posts: 3,750
Just got thru to AA, and the agent indicated that you could take the first flight out the next morning. You have up to 24 hours. So I guess mini- stopovers are still allowed. 
Still confused about the following scenario (or something similar): Say you depart from FCO(on a late morning/noon flight to LHR-using BA, since no award seats are available on AA). The FCO flight will not allow enough time to make a connection to U.S. so the next connection is the next day? Is this allowable if you take the first flight out the next day?
May 10, 2009, 1:59 pm
#89
Join Date: Nov 2008
Programs: AA EXP 3MM
Posts: 1,773
Award reservations may be booked online as round-trip or one-way itineraries If two or more passengers are travelling and the award miles are drawn from different accounts, please book each reservation separately. If you would like to make a reservation that includes a stopover or an open-jaw, please contact AAdvantage Reservations at 1-800-882-8880.
Therefore, not being able to book an international stopover on AA.com does not necessarily preclude that it would be available by phone.
May 10, 2009, 2:00 pm
#90
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Still confused about the following scenario (or something similar): Say you depart from FCO(on a late morning/noon flight to LHR-using BA, since no award seats are available on AA). The FCO flight will not allow enough time to make a connection to U.S. so the next connection is the next day? Is this allowable if you take the first flight out the next day?
For regular paid tickets and for those airline programs where I am allowed one-way award bookings for half the roundtrip miles, international connections under 24 hours -- even where there are earlier connecting flights -- have not been an issue. I cannot say the same about AA where this has been an issue, and a painful one when it involves also changing between LHR and LGW in the middle of the night.
