Australian man "crushed" in economy seat 14 hours sues AA for injuries
May 5, 2017, 10:29 am
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In this day an age a huge disconnect exists between the size of seat, aisle, and restroom and size of the western passenger, interesting .... you have business economics versus the increasing obese and unfit travel...
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May 5, 2017, 10:36 am
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And let the courts rule what too small for an airplane seat really means.
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May 5, 2017, 10:49 am
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the privacy curtain is a bit much, but the idea of a sample seat to see if you're too fat to fit is something all theme parks do for their roller coaster restraints. They have them out in front of the line to get on the ride so you don't even get in line if you're too fat. Same idea. Put it in the ticketing lobby so you don't even check your bags if you're too big. Or decide you need to buy a bigger seat or more room via first class or MCE or whatever
May 5, 2017, 10:51 am
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Where would the law suit be adjudicated, USA or Australia? Since this is international do Warsaw or Montreal conventions apply?
Some of these allow minimal reparations.
Some of these allow minimal reparations.
May 5, 2017, 10:54 am
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the privacy curtain is a bit much, but the idea of a sample seat to see if you're too fat to fit is something all theme parks do for their roller coaster restraints. They have them out in front of the line to get on the ride so you don't even get in line if you're too fat. Same idea. Put it in the ticketing lobby so you don't even check your bags if you're too big. Or decide you need to buy a bigger seat or more room via first class or MCE or whatever
May 5, 2017, 10:54 am
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May 5, 2017, 12:01 pm
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This ties into the discussion on the 737MAX thread nicely.
Fact: Passenger sizes continue to increase (not going to debate if that's good or bad, health, etc) - but they do.
Fact: Airline seats/space continue to decrease
At some point, something's gotta give.
Fact: Passenger sizes continue to increase (not going to debate if that's good or bad, health, etc) - but they do.
Fact: Airline seats/space continue to decrease
At some point, something's gotta give.
May 5, 2017, 12:44 pm
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This thread is about a lawsuit, yet it very immediately spiraled into a conversation about how to successfully shame obese people into not flying. Some of the suggestions in this thread are shameful. Pre-conceived notions about obese people and plans to treat them differently than other passengers are offensive, and I don't think they belong here.
May 5, 2017, 1:06 pm
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Big problem here is that as soon as the airlines try to force them into purchasing a second seat, they will cry discrimination based on the ADA act. As I recall, that was the basis of the earlier attempts at solving this problem going nowhere. I have personally been next to POS people before and many times, they are even embarrassed themselves, trying to crouch their bodies into the small space. It's a problem that has no easy solution, especially when AA will be reducing legroom on its planes to be the shortest pitch in the US! It just keeps getting worse!
May 5, 2017, 1:08 pm
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On the other hand, people here certainly ARE shaming the airlines about the ever shrinking width/legroom (rightly so IMO!)
May 5, 2017, 1:14 pm
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Actually there's a solution. Some bigger seats to accommodate bigger people. All it means is a revenue reduction for a few multinational corporations. I know it's apostasy and possible cause for excommunication to suggest a sacrifice by corporations and their officers (who could likely replace the revenue shortfall out of their compensation and still be solid 1%-ers). But I like living dangerously 
May 5, 2017, 1:17 pm
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Didn't Southwest try that a few years back with the seatbelts? I don't recall exactly the situation, but there were some issues with oversized pax around 10-12 years back.
Big problem here is that as soon as the airlines try to force them into purchasing a second seat, they will cry discrimination based on the ADA act. As I recall, that was the basis of the earlier attempts at solving this problem going nowhere. I have personally been next to POS people before and many times, they are even embarrassed themselves, trying to crouch their bodies into the small space. It's a problem that has no easy solution, especially when AA will be reducing legroom on its planes to be the shortest pitch in the US! It just keeps getting worse!
Big problem here is that as soon as the airlines try to force them into purchasing a second seat, they will cry discrimination based on the ADA act. As I recall, that was the basis of the earlier attempts at solving this problem going nowhere. I have personally been next to POS people before and many times, they are even embarrassed themselves, trying to crouch their bodies into the small space. It's a problem that has no easy solution, especially when AA will be reducing legroom on its planes to be the shortest pitch in the US! It just keeps getting worse!
May 5, 2017, 1:17 pm
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This thread is about a lawsuit, yet it very immediately spiraled into a conversation about how to successfully shame obese people into not flying. Some of the suggestions in this thread are shameful. Pre-conceived notions about obese people and plans to treat them differently than other passengers are offensive, and I don't think they belong here.