Baby Stroller Incident on AA591 SFO>DFW April 21st
Apr 23, 2017, 10:14 pm
#496
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Why? You're saying that they should make a rule that anything that fits in the sizer is allowed on board as the passenger's carry-on item unless it happens to be a stroller. That makes no sense, IMO.
Apr 23, 2017, 10:28 pm
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Apr 23, 2017, 10:32 pm
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I posit that there is ample evidence that more legroom and extra staff would reduce overall stress levels for all the humans involved - passengers and FAs - and therefore would result in fewer incidents of these types.
It's my opinion; but all you have to do is go back to the 90s when there WAS a better FA to pax ratio - and more bathrooms - and better seat pitch - and wider seats on widebodies - and fewer of these types of incidents. Correlation to be sure, but I think there's definitely some cause-and-effect here.
If you don't like my ideas on what should be done...what are yours?
Apr 23, 2017, 10:44 pm
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Corner a wild animal in a corner and it will lash out. The airlines have done this increasingly over the years.
Apr 23, 2017, 11:11 pm
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Sigh. Misses the point entirely.
I posit that there is ample evidence that more legroom and extra staff would reduce overall stress levels for all the humans involved - passengers and FAs - and therefore would result in fewer incidents of these types.
It's my opinion; but all you have to do is go back to the 90s when there WAS a better FA to pax ratio - and more bathrooms - and better seat pitch - and wider seats on widebodies - and fewer of these types of incidents. Correlation to be sure, but I think there's definitely some cause-and-effect here.
If you don't like my ideas on what should be done...what are yours?
I posit that there is ample evidence that more legroom and extra staff would reduce overall stress levels for all the humans involved - passengers and FAs - and therefore would result in fewer incidents of these types.
It's my opinion; but all you have to do is go back to the 90s when there WAS a better FA to pax ratio - and more bathrooms - and better seat pitch - and wider seats on widebodies - and fewer of these types of incidents. Correlation to be sure, but I think there's definitely some cause-and-effect here.
If you don't like my ideas on what should be done...what are yours?
Apr 23, 2017, 11:13 pm
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There is no FA base in SFO. The CA can't "kick a flight attendant off" He/she can only ask that he be replaced and if there is not one available the only thing the pilot could do would be to refuse to work the flight, thereby cancelling said flight.
What should he have done to "take charge"? He touched the flight attendant which is enough to get him in serious trouble at American. He has responsibility but very little real authority while still at the gate.
I am not sure they did. If this woman was equally responsible for instigating this mess rewarding her will lead to more of this.
Wait, it's already started;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ocial-facebook
What should he have done to "take charge"? He touched the flight attendant which is enough to get him in serious trouble at American. He has responsibility but very little real authority while still at the gate.
I am not sure they did. If this woman was equally responsible for instigating this mess rewarding her will lead to more of this.
Wait, it's already started;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ocial-facebook
Apr 23, 2017, 11:19 pm
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Do you think customers are willing to pay a premium to fly AA if they add all that extra legroom back in? I don't see it happening.
Apr 23, 2017, 11:21 pm
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Just to be clear, you're saying that you personally would resist LEOs and let yourself get beaten up in the hope of getting rich?
Apr 24, 2017, 12:01 am
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We need to address the elephant in the room here. There'd be more "room" in coach if passengers weren't so fat. We need to start weighing pax and charging them accordingly.
Apr 24, 2017, 12:04 am
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Apr 24, 2017, 2:00 am
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Remember when AA added additional legroom to every row in coach? I believe it was called MRTC (More Room Throughout Coach). As it did involve removing some rows of seats to provide that extra legroom, they expected to be able to command a higher price to cover the loss of revenue. It didn't happen. Customers would not pay extra to fly on AA for that extra legroom, so AA removed it in most rows and left a few rows at the front of the plane for elite passengers.
Do you think customers are willing to pay a premium to fly AA if they add all that extra legroom back in? I don't see it happening.
Do you think customers are willing to pay a premium to fly AA if they add all that extra legroom back in? I don't see it happening.
There is plenty of indication that increased crowding and more cramped spaces increase anxiety levels -- and that is no good in the main unless you desire increased chances of conflict.
Last edited by GUWonder; Apr 24, 2017 at 2:06 am
Apr 24, 2017, 2:48 am
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Unlike in the past, now is the perfect time to implement MRTC. Back then, the other airlines didn't suck nearly as hard as they do now. There is no airline that offers more legroom to everyone (except WN, and I think MRTC is a little better, plus WN has that stupid open seating). So what if you lose the lowest-end tickets to Spirit or Frontier or Allegiant? They barely pay for the fuel.
Apr 24, 2017, 3:18 am
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Unlike in the past, now is the perfect time to implement MRTC. Back then, the other airlines didn't suck nearly as hard as they do now. There is no airline that offers more legroom to everyone (except WN, and I think MRTC is a little better, plus WN has that stupid open seating). So what if you lose the lowest-end tickets to Spirit or Frontier or Allegiant? They barely pay for the fuel.