TATL in Business, what to expect?
Mar 1, 2016, 8:47 am
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TATL in Business, what to expect?
Will be traveling from DFW to Madrid the first week in May. This will be my first trip on AA after many years flying TATL in Business on Continental/United.
How will the comfort, amenities, etc. compare?
How will the comfort, amenities, etc. compare?
Mar 1, 2016, 8:56 am
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That depends on which aircraft you will be flying on...
77W/787/763 reconfig- new business lay flat seats. Great product from my experience.
772/old 763- outdated J product with slanted J seats- something to avoid if at all possible.
Catering would be the same.
77W/787/763 reconfig- new business lay flat seats. Great product from my experience.
772/old 763- outdated J product with slanted J seats- something to avoid if at all possible.
Catering would be the same.
Mar 1, 2016, 8:58 am
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E.g. Advanced search titles only, results as threads, keywords "767", "777", menu, etc. Use quotation marks for search terms using very common words or three or fewer characters; case is not taken into consideration by search.
Mar 1, 2016, 10:12 am
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We have threads covering specific aircraft types, international menus, etc. Perhaps some of those can fill in some of the blanks. (You've not even taken the time to tell us what kind of aircraft you have on your flight.)
E.g. Advanced search titles only, results as threads, keywords "767", "777", menu, etc. Use quotation marks for search terms using very common words or three or fewer characters; case is not taken into consideration by search.
E.g. Advanced search titles only, results as threads, keywords "767", "777", menu, etc. Use quotation marks for search terms using very common words or three or fewer characters; case is not taken into consideration by search.
I remember reading a year ago that the old AA 777 aircraft were being modernized and new 777 were entering the fleet, so I was wondering how far ahead of flight date would one finally know which 777 is it?
Mar 1, 2016, 10:34 am
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On my itinerary the aircraft is listed as a 777. (Sorry for the omission/ not taking the time to list!)
I remember reading a year ago that the old AA 777 aircraft were being modernized and new 777 were entering the fleet, so I was wondering how far ahead of flight date would one finally know which 777 is it?
I remember reading a year ago that the old AA 777 aircraft were being modernized and new 777 were entering the fleet, so I was wondering how far ahead of flight date would one finally know which 777 is it?
LOTS of trip reports on J flights in the old, NGBC product. E.g. HERE, and HERE, or HERE. ^
Mar 1, 2016, 12:07 pm
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I use this flight on a fairly regular basis and it has always been on the 777-200 (old ski-slope J). I use SWUs to get First which is fine, even though a little worn.
If I was not able to upgrade to First I would avoid this flight and do DFW-LHR-MAD if possible. AA50 DFW-LHR is on the new 77W with the lie-flat J seats. Much better experience.
If I was not able to upgrade to First I would avoid this flight and do DFW-LHR-MAD if possible. AA50 DFW-LHR is on the new 77W with the lie-flat J seats. Much better experience.
Mar 1, 2016, 2:07 pm
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On my itinerary the aircraft is listed as a 777. (Sorry for the omission/ not taking the time to list!)
I remember reading a year ago that the old AA 777 aircraft were being modernized and new 777 were entering the fleet, so I was wondering how far ahead of flight date would one finally know which 777 is it?
I remember reading a year ago that the old AA 777 aircraft were being modernized and new 777 were entering the fleet, so I was wondering how far ahead of flight date would one finally know which 777 is it?
13 of 47 are refurbished, perhaps another dozen to be furnished with the Zodiac seats. AA hasn't selected the manufacturer of the seats for the remaining aircraft, but you can see there's less than a 25% chance you'll get a CIP 772.
Several "777" threads with information about the aircraft, seating, etc.
Mar 1, 2016, 2:19 pm
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I use this flight on a fairly regular basis and it has always been on the 777-200 (old ski-slope J). I use SWUs to get First which is fine, even though a little worn.
If I was not able to upgrade to First I would avoid this flight and do DFW-LHR-MAD if possible. AA50 DFW-LHR is on the new 77W with the lie-flat J seats. Much better experience.
If I was not able to upgrade to First I would avoid this flight and do DFW-LHR-MAD if possible. AA50 DFW-LHR is on the new 77W with the lie-flat J seats. Much better experience.
Mar 1, 2016, 2:47 pm
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Mar 1, 2016, 3:28 pm
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I'm flying this the other way in May (MAD-DFW). I never sleep westbound - just eat, drink and watch movies - so assume this will be a perfectly adequate / comfortable product for that? My connecting flight is on the 787 and I'll sleep on that one 
Mar 1, 2016, 3:36 pm
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...though the old 777 J has the worst IFE of these listed above. For IFE in J:
1. 77W / 787 / 77D
2. A330
3. 777 NGBC
Mar 1, 2016, 3:59 pm
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My return JFK - MAD is in the new 763 business cabin, which looks really nice, and follows a GRU - JFK on the 77W.
Mar 1, 2016, 4:05 pm
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Just how bad is the IFE? Is it at least on demand with 20+ movies, or is it like the old UA 767s I used to fly when US were in Star, with just a handful of movies on a loop?
My return JFK - MAD is in the new 763 business cabin, which looks really nice, and follows a GRU - JFK on the 77W.
My return JFK - MAD is in the new 763 business cabin, which looks really nice, and follows a GRU - JFK on the 77W.
I'm not sure how many movies, but it's always been sufficient for me for an 8-10 hour flight. Quite a few TV episodes, and a decent selection of movies. Not the larger libraries of the 787/77W, but plenty for a TATL flight.
On the 763's, they use the Samsung tablets, which also has a good selection of media.
Mar 1, 2016, 4:10 pm
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I have 4 TATL flights coming up this year, all MIA-MXP round-trip, in business.
Does anyone have experience with whether these flights (AA206 and AA207) have been "cabin improved"? Angle vs. lie-flat? Or how the entertainment systems in business class are?
Does anyone have experience with whether these flights (AA206 and AA207) have been "cabin improved"? Angle vs. lie-flat? Or how the entertainment systems in business class are?