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Boeing 787-8 / 788 w/ J20, Premium Economy / PE / PEY Discussion (refit completed)

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The early 2019 787-8 retrofit standardizes 788 seating at C20, W28, Y186 (of which 42 are MCE)

AA begins selling Premium Economy tickets as if 1 May (if not before) on the 787-8.

787-8 Current Status as of 24 April April 2019: NO J28 788s left in service, refit completed.:

Refitting took two weeks per airframe, and two were in the shop at Paine Field at any one time. N800AN was the test article / prototype (PAE Sep 2018), N816AA was the last (returned to service 24 Apr 2019).

here[/u] for fairly current listings.

All Boeing 787-8 have Premium Economy as of 24 April 2019.
All Boeing 787-9 have Premium Economy out of the box.

The Rockwell Collins MiQ seat has been selected. This is also the domestic (newly renamed) Business seat in narrowbodies, with added drop down footpegs (foot and leg rest in bulkhead rows), seatback IFE, non-moveable head rests.



Link to AA Premium Economy page.
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Boeing 787-8 / 788 w/ J20, Premium Economy / PE / PEY Discussion (refit completed)

Old Apr 11, 2019, 9:09 pm
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Boeing 787-8 / 788 w/ J20, Premium Economy / PE / PEY Discussion (refit completed)

I am traveling the 787-8 on a domestic USA route and I have a choice of aisle bulkhead in main cabin extra or middle seat in premium economy. What is the better seat? If you pull this flight up on seat guru they have two aircraft and it was swapped out for the version that has fewer flat bed seats. https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Am...ng_787-8_A.php

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Old Apr 11, 2019, 9:16 pm
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No doubt, PE. No shared arm rest, bigger recline, wider seat, it is no comparison. Even middle in PE is much more comfortable.
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Old Apr 12, 2019, 3:43 pm
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Question. In the new 20 J layout on 788, does anyone know if the two restrooms that are between Business and Economy are allocated to Business, to Premium Economy or if one side is one and the other side is the other? I cannot believe they are both economy as that would leave 20 Business Class passengers per Restrroom and 14 Premium Economy Passengers per restroom. Anyone know, please? Doing LHR-ORD on Wednesday DV.....

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Old Apr 12, 2019, 3:54 pm
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Originally Posted by rjlon
Question. In the new 20 J layout on 788, does anyone know if the two restrooms that are between Business and Economy are allocated to Business, to Premium Economy or if one side is one and the other side is the other? I cannot believe they are both economy as that would leave 20 Business Class passengers per Restrroom and 14 Premium Economy Passengers per restroom. Anyone know, please? DOind LHR-)RD on Wednesday DV.....
Bathrooms between J and W on 789 are shared between business class and PE passengers. I assume 788 will be the same. Correct me if Im wrong.
There is no curtain between J and PE.
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Old Apr 12, 2019, 4:20 pm
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Bathrooms between J and W on 789 are shared between business class and PE passengers. I assume 788 will be the same. Correct me if Im wrong.
There is no curtain between J and PE.
Minor nit, but there is a curtain. It is rarely opened, however.
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Old Apr 12, 2019, 4:22 pm
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Minor nit, but there is a curtain. It is rarely opened, however.
interesting. I did not see that. I saw the curtain between PE and Y that was closed during my flight.
Where is the curtain between J and PE? Is it right behind last row of business class or is it right in front of PE ?
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Will take a look on Wednesday and let you know.
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The curtain is after the last row in J. On my flight it was drawn sometime after dinner service, leaving only the one front lav easily accessible in J. Seemed kind of odd.
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Originally Posted by gateH15

Bathrooms between J and W on 789 are shared between business class and PE passengers. I assume 788 will be the same. Correct me if Im wrong.
There is no curtain between J and PE.
There is on he A332's
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Old Apr 13, 2019, 10:27 am
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The curtain is after the last row in J. On my flight it was drawn sometime after dinner service, leaving only the one front lav easily accessible in J. Seemed kind of odd.
You can still go to the lavs behind business class, even if there is a curtain. I doubt FAs will say anything.
Plus its allowed to use the bathroom in any cabin on all domestic flights and flights from the US.
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They should divide them with diagonal curtains as they do on 77W.
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interesting. I did not see that. I saw the curtain between PE and Y that was closed during my flight.
Where is the curtain between J and PE? Is it right behind last row of business class or is it right in front of PE ?
Behind the last row of on the interior side. It was tied up the whole flight.
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You can still go to the lavs behind business class, even if there is a curtain. I doubt FAs will say anything.
Plus its allowed to use the bathroom in any cabin on all domestic flights and flights from the US.
Just regretful the FA's don't do what Austrian does on intra European flights, the FC FA, will leave the service cart at the end of J cabin, and they use a real curtain, on my last flight someone walked into the cart, the FA never apologized she just stated they needed to use the restroom in main cabin.
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Just regretful the FA's don't do what Austrian does on intra European flights, the FC FA, will leave the service cart at the end of J cabin, and they use a real curtain, on my last flight someone walked into the cart, the FA never apologized she just stated they needed to use the restroom in main cabin.
its not up to FAs on American to decode that. Its AA policy to allow all passengers to use any lav they prefer on all domestic flights and flights from the US. I dont really have an option one way or another. Its just whatever.
Plus one to the real curtain tho.
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I have seen many Coach pax told to use the coach bathrooms when they try to access the forward bathrooms on A321 and 752 flights between LAX and Hawaii.
I dont think people using a bathroom is the issue though, it is the lines and the fact that in coach people tend to congregate by the bathrooms as there is so little space in the seats.
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