Changing award post devaluation, will I be charged new price?
Nov 23, 2015, 2:55 pm
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Changing award post devaluation, will I be charged new price?
If I book an award in J today for travel post-devaluation, and then try to upgrade to F at T48 (pending availability) will I be charged the pre- or post-devaluation mileage price?
Nov 23, 2015, 3:14 pm
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I'm personally not aware of a public policy on this, but, if you're changing awards to a higher cabin after the new chart in in effect, I'd expect that there's a good possibility (even a probability) that one would only be grandfathered for date/time, changes not award type changes. We'll have to wait and see the official guidance on this, but that's my personal guess.
Nov 23, 2015, 3:22 pm
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My guess is if you up from a J award to an F award after the new chart takes effect, you will pay the new rates as moving from J to F today involves a fee-waived redeposit and new award cert being pulled along with the ticket validity date being reset to when the F award cert was pulled.
Nov 23, 2015, 4:05 pm
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What's the policy on changing date today tho? If keeping the origin and destination, cabin same?
I mean is it possible to book a pair and then keep extending the travel date into the future or does the ticket expire at some point?
I mean is it possible to book a pair and then keep extending the travel date into the future or does the ticket expire at some point?
Nov 23, 2015, 4:23 pm
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The award ticket is valid for one year from the date of original issue, so you cannot keep changing it beyond more than one year. The only exception is if you upgrade the cabin, at which point AA essentially gives you a fee-free redeposit and you get an another year from the date of upgrade to make changes.
Nov 25, 2015, 1:10 pm
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From what I remember, a UA award was protected under the old pricing so long as your original ticket wasn't canceled. Some people even created dummy bookings for a routing they eventually wanted, canceled the segments, kept the ticket active, and later re-booked with proper dates still within original ticket validity.
Nov 26, 2015, 12:31 am
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From what I remember, a UA award was protected under the old pricing so long as your original ticket wasn't canceled. Some people even created dummy bookings for a routing they eventually wanted, canceled the segments, kept the ticket active, and later re-booked with proper dates still within original ticket validity.
(I'm guessing aktchi is correct.)
Nov 26, 2015, 9:44 am
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The award ticket is valid for one year from the date of original issue, so you cannot keep changing it beyond more than one year. The only exception is if you upgrade the cabin, at which point AA essentially gives you a fee-free redeposit and you get an another year from the date of upgrade to make changes.
Does this mean that the last day I can travel using this ticket is October 21, 2016 provided space is available? If I change the routing but keep a segment or two in the future when I see availability, will that be a new issue ticket and extend the travel period?
Nov 26, 2015, 10:20 am
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Question, I issued a ticket on partner on Oct 21, 2015 for travel in Sep, 2016. I then changed the date again few days ago to Oct 2016 and new ticket was issued (noted as exchange).
Does this mean that the last day I can travel using this ticket is October 21, 2016 provided space is available? If I change the routing but keep a segment or two in the future when I see availability, will that be a new issue ticket and extend the travel period?
Does this mean that the last day I can travel using this ticket is October 21, 2016 provided space is available? If I change the routing but keep a segment or two in the future when I see availability, will that be a new issue ticket and extend the travel period?
Dec 13, 2015, 10:55 am
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My guess is if you up from a J award to an F award after the new chart takes effect, you will pay the new rates as moving from J to F today involves a fee-waived redeposit and new award cert being pulled along with the ticket validity date being reset to when the F award cert was pulled.
In my case, I have a J/F award (on CX) for 67.5k. Long-haul J, short-haul F, but I booked it that way so I'd be charged the 67.5k rate.
SO, if long-haul F opens up post-devaluation, you would THINK it isn't treated as a redeposit/reissue, since you aren't moving up/down an actual award level - you already paid for it.
Thoughts?
Jamie
Dec 13, 2015, 11:03 am
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I agree. But here's a twist.
In my case, I have a J/F award (on CX) for 67.5k. Long-haul J, short-haul F, but I booked it that way so I'd be charged the 67.5k rate.
SO, if long-haul F opens up post-devaluation, you would THINK it isn't treated as a redeposit/reissue, since you aren't moving up/down an actual award level - you already paid for it.
Thoughts?
Jamie
In my case, I have a J/F award (on CX) for 67.5k. Long-haul J, short-haul F, but I booked it that way so I'd be charged the 67.5k rate.
SO, if long-haul F opens up post-devaluation, you would THINK it isn't treated as a redeposit/reissue, since you aren't moving up/down an actual award level - you already paid for it.
Thoughts?
Jamie
Dec 13, 2015, 11:27 am
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I agree. But here's a twist.
In my case, I have a J/F award (on CX) for 67.5k. Long-haul J, short-haul F, but I booked it that way so I'd be charged the 67.5k rate.
SO, if long-haul F opens up post-devaluation, you would THINK it isn't treated as a redeposit/reissue, since you aren't moving up/down an actual award level - you already paid for it.
Thoughts?
Jamie
In my case, I have a J/F award (on CX) for 67.5k. Long-haul J, short-haul F, but I booked it that way so I'd be charged the 67.5k rate.
SO, if long-haul F opens up post-devaluation, you would THINK it isn't treated as a redeposit/reissue, since you aren't moving up/down an actual award level - you already paid for it.
Thoughts?
Jamie