Nov 26, 2014, 4:51 am
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Speculation: New Routes, Hubs, Flights (2017 Onward)
Because there is community interest in having a purely speculative discussion about whether other airports will pop up to become focus cities or hubs, new routes, etc. the following new thread has been amalgamated on this topic.Note:
Going: 9 A330-300, ER190, some older 757-200 and 8 767-300ER (leaving 17), MD-80
Coming: Remainder of 16 Boeing 26 787-8, 22 Boeing 787-9 (began later 2016). A320 family - 100 A321neo, and B737-800 (100 737-MAX8) aircraft.
See Cranky Flier article on 2016 fleet changes, AA-HP-US. Link.
Also see: HELP DESK: General questions about aircraft equipment, fleet, seats, IFE, etc.
Speculation fun time: Will xxx be the next AA focus city / hub? (consolidated)
Obsolete posts from 2015 on have been moved to ARCHIVE: Speculation: Possible Routes (Flights) and Hubs, Discussion - 2015 on
All posts prior to 2015 have been moved here: ARCHIVE: Routes (Flights) and Hubs (Speculation, News and Discussion)
Speculation: Possible Routes (Flights) and Hubs, Discussion - (2017 on)
Aug 9, 2016, 2:51 pm
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Aug 9, 2016, 7:15 pm
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They still on tap for retiring 90? From what I've heard, MD80 retirements have had to be slowed owing to the gap in capacity and lift from the E-170s that were pulled off line when RPA went Chapter 11.
Aug 9, 2016, 7:19 pm
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Aug 10, 2016, 11:37 am
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Could AA be interested re-starting their own metal flight JFK-NRT (taking over for one JL flight) now that Delta is exiting the route/market?
Aug 10, 2016, 11:55 am
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Aug 10, 2016, 12:23 pm
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With the joint venture between AA and JL, AA has not focused on USA-Japan routes as much as JL has; AA has been focused on starting long-haul nonstops that overfly NRT (but which are operated jointly with JAL). Displacing JL on JFK-NRT would require planes and crews that could otherwise fly somewhere that JL isn't allowed to fly. So where's the logic?
Aug 10, 2016, 12:29 pm
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Maybe from DFW? PHL is already served so makes me think not JFK and somewhat less likely ORD. But awesome! Amsterdam is such an amazing city.
Aug 10, 2016, 12:35 pm
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Why would Delta's planned exit from JFK-NRT cause AA to want to fly JFK-NRT when its joint venture partner already flies it twice a day - I'm not seeing the logic. Delta's exit is probably because DL realizes that nearly every O&D passenger will now fly NH, which gets to fly JFK-HND in prime daytime hours.
With the joint venture between AA and JL, AA has not focused on USA-Japan routes as much as JL has; AA has been focused on starting long-haul nonstops that overfly NRT (but which are operated jointly with JAL). Displacing JL on JFK-NRT would require planes and crews that could otherwise fly somewhere that JL isn't allowed to fly. So where's the logic?
With the joint venture between AA and JL, AA has not focused on USA-Japan routes as much as JL has; AA has been focused on starting long-haul nonstops that overfly NRT (but which are operated jointly with JAL). Displacing JL on JFK-NRT would require planes and crews that could otherwise fly somewhere that JL isn't allowed to fly. So where's the logic?
Aug 10, 2016, 12:37 pm
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Aug 10, 2016, 12:57 pm
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I agree, it would be great to see more / better service there on AA as I love Amsterdam too. It's got to be difficult for AA to be at all competitive out of AMS with only one narrowbody across the Atlantic vs all the options on KLM from their hub.
Or perhaps the PHL-AMS route is at least getting an upgauge, to replace the aging 757s, and they need additional crew for the route. As it is, I almost always connect through LHR to get there so I can avoid the the old business seats on those birds.
Aug 10, 2016, 1:37 pm
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Aug 10, 2016, 2:43 pm
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It could just be for the PHL route. It's switching to LAA soon, so if they want to have Dutch speakers on board, they'll have to hire new ones, as the current ones are LUS and won't be able to crew the LAA 757. (For now, anyway.)
The job ad only mentions LAA hubs, so it's definitely for the LAA side, in any case.
With that being said, I would love another route from AMS, though.
The job ad only mentions LAA hubs, so it's definitely for the LAA side, in any case.
With that being said, I would love another route from AMS, though.
Aug 10, 2016, 6:12 pm
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