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Old May 31, 2015, 7:55 am
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OBSOLETE and ARCHIVED: Earning AAvantage Miles Flying oneworld, Partner and Other Airlines

NOTE: With the 2016 changes on earning Elite Qualifying Miles with American Airlines and its partners, and the changes on earning AAdvantage status, thes thread has become obsolete.

Please see Earning AA Elite Qualifying Miles / EQM on AA, oneworld, partners 2016 for current information.

Note: flying any partner operated flights as an AA marketed flight (AA codeshare) earns miles as if you were flying American Airlines. See here.

For certain airlines, see:

Lower AA Miles Earning from BA / British / IB / Iberia Feb 2016

Earning AA miles BA / British Airways (including upgraded flights)

Earning AA AAdvantage Miles on CX / Cathay (including Upgrade Issues)

Earning AA Miles / EQM / RDM on EY / Etihad & Posting, etc. (master thread) to the current thread.

Etihad Airways operated and marketed flights between Chicago (ORD), Dallas/Ft Worth (DFW), Los Angeles (LAX), New York (JFK), San Francisco (SFO), Washington Dulles (IAD),Toronto (YYZ) and Abu Dhabi are not eligible for mileage accrual" (AA codeshares earn full EQM and EQS).

To reiterate, Etihad is not a member of oneworld member. Code shares operated by non-oneworld airlines (other than exceptions for Qantas code shares) do not earn AA miles.
Earning and Redeeming AA Miles on HA / Hawaiian Airlines (master thread)

Earning and Redeeming Miles on Malaysia Airlines / MH (Master thread)

Earning AA Miles QF / Qantas Airways (master thread)
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Elite Qualifying (EQM) or Redeemable (RDM)?
To determine if you earn EQM or RDM, read the "Earn miles" statement for each airline:

This will earn EQM:
Earn miles
Earn elite-qualifying AAdvantage miles when you fly on airberlin marketed and operated flights as well as airberlin codeshare flights operated by American Airlines. Simply:
  • Buy an eligible published fare ticket booked in an eligible code
  • Fly an eligible route
  • Specific flights, routes or cities that are excluded from earning miles or award travel are listed as exceptions if applicable.
This will not earn EQM, only RDM:
Earn miles
Earn AAdvantage miles when you fly on Fiji Airways marketed and operated flights as well as Fiji Airways codeshare flights operated by American Airlines. Simply:
  • Buy an eligible published fare ticket booked in an eligible code
  • Fly an eligible route
  • Specific flights, routes or cities that are excluded from earning miles or award travel are listed as exceptions if applicable.
oneworld Codeshares Operated by non-oneworld Airlines or Affiliates

Other than flying Qantas (and some Japan Airlines) codeshares / marketed flights, oneworld codeshare flights must be operated by oneworld airlines and their oneworld affiliates to earn miles.

É.g. AA codeshare operated by EY, earn as if flying AA.
É.g. Flying EY, earn Redeemable (not Elite Qualifying) miles.
E.g. BA operated by Bangkok Airways, no AA miles.
É.g. Iberia operated by SN yields no AA miles.
É.g. QF flown by FJ should to earn EQM.
Minimum Mileage Guarantee - Link

You may earn a minimum of 500 EQM on some partner airlines:

Elite members will earn at least 500 miles for flights under 500 miles on American Airlines and American Eagle (including codeshare flights booked as an American Airlines flight number) and participating AAdvantage and oneworld airlines:
  • airberlin
  • Alaska Airlines
  • British Airways
  • Fiji Airways
  • Finnair
  • Gulf Air
  • Iberia
  • LAN*
  • Qantas
  • Royal Jordanian
  • SriLankan Airlines
  • TAM Airlines
  • US Airways
  • US Airways Express
  • US Airways Shuttle
*LAN includes LAN Airlines, LAN Argentina, LAN Ecuador and LAN Peru.
Elite Bonus Miles - Link

Executive Platinum and Platinum members will earn a 100% bonus and Gold members will earn a 25% bonus, based on the flight miles or minimum miles guaranteed, when traveling with:
  • American Airlines
  • American Eagle
  • Alaska Airlines
  • British Airways
  • Cathay Pacific
  • Dragon Air
  • Finnair
  • Iberia
  • Japan Airlines
  • LAN Airlines
  • Malaysia Airlines
  • Qantas
  • Qatar Airways
Some things to remember
  • Same flight number connections generally render miles as if flown on one single flight, unless you can call and "force" splitting into separate segments.
  • Most oneworld flight numbers operated by non-one world carriers (with some mostly QF flight number exceptions) do not earn oneworld / AA miles.
AAdvantage Status Four Annual Segment Requirement

*Must fly at least four segments on American Airlines during the qualifying year to receive elite status.
Claiming Missing Miles
● Keep boarding passes and ticket numbers until everything has cleared; use chart and BP for fare inventory. (E.g. AA ticket account code numbers begin with "001", EY with "607".)

Link to aa.com mileage credit request form (must be requested 15 days after / within 12 months of flying).
Link to obsolete, archived thread.
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Old Jul 27, 2013, 12:49 am
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Earning AA miles / EQM on oneworld, partner & other airlines (OBSOLETE)

Does anyone have any recent experience with booking discount economy (earning 25%) with AA status? For example, we see that ZRH-VIE earns 375*25% = 94 base redeemable/lifetime miles.

Would this same flight earn minimum millage guarantee for elites, as mentioned on AA.com here:

https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/e.../airberlin.jsp

If so, would the EQM be 500 miles, per the guarantee, or 500*25% = 125 miles?

I flew MXP-TXL (520) on a discounted W fare recently as a AA elite, but those miles haven't yet posted. I do need to book travel soon, this asking a question here. There are some non-oneworld options that are very appealing - oneworld just isn't good in intra-Europe itineraries, with AB giving peanuts, BA pricing craze (over 600 USD if booking Western-Eastern euorpe via LHR) and IB and AY having very limited networks. I definitely miss Malev, flights were both convenient and cheap.
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 2:07 am
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Originally Posted by yminev
Does anyone have any recent experience with booking discount economy (earning 25%) with AA status? For example, we see that ZRH-VIE earns 375*25% = 94 base redeemable/lifetime miles.
If so, would the EQM be 500 miles, per the guarantee, or 500*25% = 125 miles?
Because of the abysmal earning rates to AAdvantage, I continue to credit those short intra-Europe flights to AB. But now that you say it, looking at the wording AA status holders might well get 500 minimum miles regardless of the booking class. I'll test this on the next flight I have coming up (ZRH-TXL) and report back.

Mourning the demise of Malev as well. Getting to Budapest now is a pain.
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Old Aug 5, 2013, 9:07 am
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Originally Posted by yminev
Does anyone have any recent experience with booking discount economy (earning 25%) with AA status? For example, we see that ZRH-VIE earns 375*25% = 94 base redeemable/lifetime miles.

Would this same flight earn minimum millage guarantee for elites, as mentioned on AA.com here:

https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/e.../airberlin.jsp

If so, would the EQM be 500 miles, per the guarantee, or 500*25% = 125 miles?

I flew MXP-TXL (520) on a discounted W fare recently as a AA elite, but those miles haven't yet posted. I do need to book travel soon, this asking a question here. There are some non-oneworld options that are very appealing - oneworld just isn't good in intra-Europe itineraries, with AB giving peanuts, BA pricing craze (over 600 USD if booking Western-Eastern euorpe via LHR) and IB and AY having very limited networks. I definitely miss Malev, flights were both convenient and cheap.
To follow-up on my note from earlier, my MXP-TXL flight booked in class W for $60 posted, as follows:

07/09/13 AIR BERLIN 8433 Y MXP TXL 130 370 500

The RDM was increased by 500, the EQM by 500, EQP by 250, EQS by 1 and MillionMiler by 130. This makes sense - the distance is 520 miles, so 0.25*520 = 130.

Overall, cheap European flights are worth it in classes W or O as an AA elite, but I will still avoid the higher classes (e.g. N), which cost just a little under S.
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Old Aug 30, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Earning AA miles / EQM on oneworld, partner & other airlines (consolidated)

I am flying BOS-JFK-LHR-IST this autumn and am hoping to credit the miles for the revenue ticket to AA whilst using Avios to upgrade from World Traveler plus to Club World on the JFK-LHR-JFK, and from Euro traveler to Club Europe on the LHR-IST-LHR.

Could someone help me understand:

1) For the BOS-JFK sector I will be in Y on AA and have EXP status. The flight is a BA codeshare. How would I stand by for a complimentary upgrade?

2) To ensure I receive AA miles credit do I add my AAdvantage number to the reservation - does this impact my ability to upgrade the other sectors? I've read in the BA forum that sometimes if you upgrade the fares don't post even to your Executive Club account: "A normal Avios upgrade from WT+ to Club, should appear on your statement as J/T (i.e. you sat in J but paid for T). Most of the time, it comes up as J/U instead. To correct this, you need to speak to someone at the service centre. This can take anywhere from 1 to 2 weeks to credit." Would I call AA about this or BA if I submitted my AAdvantage number?

3) This is probably a BA board question but is there a waitlist on BA for Avios upgrades that clears like EVIPs or do I need to manually check or set up an Expert Flyer alert? Do seats ever go out empty on BA in J with people seeking to upgrade from WT+ and is there an airport waitlist?

Many thanks and safe travels!
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Old Aug 30, 2013, 5:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Allusha
1) For the BOS-JFK sector I will be in Y on AA and have EXP status. The flight is a BA codeshare. How would I stand by for a complimentary upgrade?
You aren't eligible for an upgrade on a codeshare. You can ask the gate agent, maybe you'll get lucky.
http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/pr...and-conditions

2) To ensure I receive AA miles credit do I add my AAdvantage number to the reservation - does this impact my ability to upgrade the other sectors?
It can be tricky in general trying to apply benefits from one FF program while trying to earn points toward another program on the same itinerary. I think your best bet is to book with your Avios points and switch your FF number to AA at the airport.

I've read in the BA forum that sometimes if you upgrade the fares don't post even to your Executive Club account: "A normal Avios upgrade from WT+ to Club, should appear on your statement as J/T (i.e. you sat in J but paid for T). Most of the time, it comes up as J/U instead. To correct this, you need to speak to someone at the service centre. This can take anywhere from 1 to 2 weeks to credit." Would I call AA about this or BA if I submitted my AAdvantage number?
You'd call AA, particularly if your AA number was on the boarding pass.

3) This is probably a BA board question but is there a waitlist on BA for Avios upgrades that clears like EVIPs or do I need to manually check or set up an Expert Flyer alert? Do seats ever go out empty on BA in J with people seeking to upgrade from WT+ and is there an airport waitlist?
Probably BA questions. I do know that upgrades on BA come out of the award inventory, so "U" for business class. I can't recall of the top of my head if ExpertFlyer gets this.
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Old Aug 30, 2013, 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Allusha
3) This is probably a BA board question but is there a waitlist on BA for Avios upgrades that clears like EVIPs or do I need to manually check or set up an Expert Flyer alert? Do seats ever go out empty on BA in J with people seeking to upgrade from WT+ and is there an airport waitlist?

I looked into this recently and from what I could make out there is no waitlisting for upgrades on BA, which presumably means you have to keep asking. BA do not seem to show up at all on expertflyer.

But I would love to hear more about some actual experiences of this - as well as trying to get AA miles in the process.
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Old Aug 30, 2013, 6:55 pm
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1) no complimentary upgrade: at best you can upgrade with avios.

2) I'm confused about that one: do you want to upgrade with avios but earn the miles on the base fare on AA? That could be tricky.

3)no waitlist for UUA (upgrade using avios): you would need to check regularly. There are people (highly concentrated on the BA board) who check several times a day! Availability does open up at random points, but since both upgrades and avios bookings take the same booking class they do also tend to disappear quickly.
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Old Aug 31, 2013, 2:51 am
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Originally Posted by Allusha
I am flying BOS-JFK-LHR-IST this autumn and am hoping to credit the miles for the revenue ticket to AA whilst using Avios to upgrade from World Traveler plus to Club World on the JFK-LHR-JFK, and from Euro traveler to Club Europe on the LHR-IST-LHR.

2) To ensure I receive AA miles credit do I add my AAdvantage number to the reservation - does this impact my ability to upgrade the other sectors? I've read in the BA forum that sometimes if you upgrade the fares don't post even to your Executive Club account: "A normal Avios upgrade from WT+ to Club, should appear on your statement as J/T (i.e. you sat in J but paid for T). Most of the time, it comes up as J/U instead. To correct this, you need to speak to someone at the service centre. This can take anywhere from 1 to 2 weeks to credit." Would I call AA about this or BA if I submitted my AAdvantage number?
You can upgrade with Avios and credit the flight to AA without problem. To make sure your miles post to AA and not BA I'd make sure that your BAEC number never touches the reservation as sometimes the FF number can be "sticky" and post to the wrong account. Just enter your AAdvantage number and you can give BA your BAEC number over the phone when you call to upgrade without it affecting your AAdvantage number in the PNR.

The bit about flights not posting properly is because BA uses the same inventory code for upgrades and pure redemption tickets which sometimes causes the system to think it's an award ticket which earns zero miles. I've had mixed experiences with this - sometimes they post ok, a couple of times I've had to call AA to get the flights to post correctly but they've always posted in the end.

Here's a thread from the BAEC forum about this - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ade-avios.html

Originally Posted by Allusha
3) This is probably a BA board question but is there a waitlist on BA for Avios upgrades that clears like EVIPs or do I need to manually check or set up an Expert Flyer alert?
There is no waitlist on BA and you can't use EF for BA award inventory - you can sent up alerts on awardnexus.com if you get a paid membership

Originally Posted by Allusha
Do seats ever go out empty on BA in J with people seeking to upgrade from WT+ and is there an airport waitlist?
Yes they do. Unlike AA, BA does not open up further upgrade inventory to fill any unsold seats. Once they have reached their allocation (whatever that may be), it is common for flights to depart with empty seats in J with someone in the back who had requested an upgrade. Availability often opens up in the few days before departure but it's not guaranteed. There is no airport waitlist.
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Old Aug 31, 2013, 7:03 pm
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Thanks for the helpful replies. If I ticket the AA codeshare LHR-ATH may I still upgrade with Avios?
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Old Sep 1, 2013, 5:34 am
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Originally Posted by Allusha
Thanks for the helpful replies. If I ticket the AA codeshare LHR-ATH may I still upgrade with Avios?
It seems the answer is yes if you have booked with BA, no if booked with AA: see this thread.
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Old Oct 30, 2013, 2:03 am
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Here are some additional data points regarding AB-operated and AB-marketed earning credited to AAdvantage for an elite member who earns a 500 mile guarantee:

Airline From To Class BaseMiles BonusMiles TotalRDM MillionMiler

AirBerlin ZRH TXL W 103 397 500 103
AirBerlin TXL ZRH S 411 89 500 411

AirBerlin TXL SOF W 207 293 500 207
AirBerlin SOF TXL S 827 0 827 827
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Old Mar 6, 2014, 6:49 pm
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Earning miles on Cathay Pacific

Guys

If I purchased a flight directly on cathaypacific.com, can I still earn AAdvantage miles on it rather than Asia miles?

Thanks

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Old Mar 6, 2014, 7:05 pm
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Yes. Any time prior to boarding your flight, contact CX and ask them to remove your Asia Miles number and add your AA number instead.
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Old Mar 6, 2014, 7:09 pm
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Depends on the booking class. Some low cost CX fares earn nil AA miles
From http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...hayPacific.jsp
No Mileage Credit* K, M, L, V, Q, S, G, N
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Old Mar 6, 2014, 7:55 pm
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I am moving this to the AA forum as this is about earning AAdvantage miles, rather than AsiaMiles and they are likely to be able to help you more there.

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