Jan 25, 2014, 2:56 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
Be sure to check the lengthy http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...elections.html and oneworld and Other Airline (Partner) Awards info, rules 2014 on threads, as many members have posted questions - and useful answers - there. See the wiki posts for informative summaries.
Also be aware - AA have reduced capacity and apparently chosen to make MileSAAver flights significantly less available during predicted periods of high demand and high demand flights, undoubtedly keeping seats available for those willing to pay higher fares and use the new tiered AAnytime awards.
Older posts as of 1 Jan 2015 and later may be found in thd archived thread ARCHIVE: MileSAAver / SAAver award reduction discussion post 2015 AAdvantage merger
Older posts may dating from Aug 2011 through the AAdvantage program merger January 2015 be found in the archived thread here.
MileSAAver / SAAver award reduction / scarcity discussion
Jun 24, 2017, 2:36 pm
#1186
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Location: NorCal - SMF area
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Welcome to FlyerTalk.
We will probably merge this into http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...iscussion.html (link).
I highly recommend reading the Wikiposts at the top of the page and threads 3Cforme suggested to you.
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We will probably merge this into http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...iscussion.html (link).
I highly recommend reading the Wikiposts at the top of the page and threads 3Cforme suggested to you.
/Moderator
Jun 24, 2017, 7:11 pm
#1187
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Thousand Oaks, Ca., USA
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat; Bonvoy Titanium Lifetime Elite;Hyatt Globalist; HHonors Diamond; United Silver
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What's even worse than no availability is pages of connections with the TATL in economy, and a short segment in first/business.
I also noticed an issue with ExpertFlyer. It shows a connection through madrid as available in business all the way through, but checking BA and AA, it's clear that the TATL isn't in business.
I also noticed an issue with ExpertFlyer. It shows a connection through madrid as available in business all the way through, but checking BA and AA, it's clear that the TATL isn't in business.
Jun 24, 2017, 7:35 pm
#1188
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Location: Wesley Chapel, FL
Programs: American Airlines
Posts: 29,969
Jun 24, 2017, 8:08 pm
#1190
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Sacramento, CA
Programs: AA Exec Plat, Hyatt,Marriott,BA,AS
Posts: 4,422
What's even worse than no availability is pages of connections with the TATL in economy, and a short segment in first/business.
I also noticed an issue with ExpertFlyer. It shows a connection through madrid as available in business all the way through, but checking BA and AA, it's clear that the TATL isn't in business.
I also noticed an issue with ExpertFlyer. It shows a connection through madrid as available in business all the way through, but checking BA and AA, it's clear that the TATL isn't in business.
Jun 25, 2017, 2:43 am
#1191
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP, IHG Diamond, IC Amb
Posts: 5,508
I have given up a few years ago on flying to Europe on award tickets with Delta and AA miles.
I use mine to Asia now in J or F on partners and have had some amazing experiences.
Plus I feel its a better value now as some of the flights are 15hrs.
Jun 25, 2017, 11:23 pm
#1195
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Thousand Oaks, Ca., USA
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat; Bonvoy Titanium Lifetime Elite;Hyatt Globalist; HHonors Diamond; United Silver
Posts: 8,302
IB 8754 on 5/23/18 MAD-NCE doesn't sow availability on EF but is available on ba.com. Same thing the night before, but I snagged those, so they aren't available there.
Maybe because that leg is Air Nostrum?
(I know this is a different issue than I commented on before).
Maybe because that leg is Air Nostrum?
(I know this is a different issue than I commented on before).
Last edited by beachfan; Jun 25, 2017 at 11:33 pm
Jun 26, 2017, 12:39 am
#1196
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 102
Options
Perhaps the wrong thread for this, but I was originally on an all AA flights for BCN/PHL/PHX/TUS in economy saver. I now see the options with BA for
Business
57.5k + $332.86
BA 479 BCN/LHR
BA 289 LHR/PHX
AA 5928 PHX/TUS
First
85k + $332.86
BA 479 BCN/LHR
BA 297 LHR/ORD
AA 2636 ORD/TUS
It is worth flying first class LHR/ORD? It appears that LHR/PHX business is not lie flat.
Business
57.5k + $332.86
BA 479 BCN/LHR
BA 289 LHR/PHX
AA 5928 PHX/TUS
First
85k + $332.86
BA 479 BCN/LHR
BA 297 LHR/ORD
AA 2636 ORD/TUS
It is worth flying first class LHR/ORD? It appears that LHR/PHX business is not lie flat.
Jun 26, 2017, 8:14 am
#1197
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Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
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Perhaps the wrong thread for this, but I was originally on an all AA flights for BCN/PHL/PHX/TUS in economy saver. I now see the options with BA for
Business
57.5k + $332.86
BA 479 BCN/LHR
BA 289 LHR/PHX
AA 5928 PHX/TUS
First
85k + $332.86
BA 479 BCN/LHR
BA 297 LHR/ORD
AA 2636 ORD/TUS
It is worth flying first class LHR/ORD? It appears that LHR/PHX business is not lie flat.
Business
57.5k + $332.86
BA 479 BCN/LHR
BA 289 LHR/PHX
AA 5928 PHX/TUS
First
85k + $332.86
BA 479 BCN/LHR
BA 297 LHR/ORD
AA 2636 ORD/TUS
It is worth flying first class LHR/ORD? It appears that LHR/PHX business is not lie flat.
Jun 26, 2017, 9:04 am
#1198
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: AA LT PLT 3 MM+, BA (very) Blue, CO nobody
Posts: 2,640
Perhaps the wrong thread for this, but I was originally on an all AA flights for BCN/PHL/PHX/TUS in economy saver. I now see the options with BA for
Business
57.5k + $332.86
BA 479 BCN/LHR
BA 289 LHR/PHX
AA 5928 PHX/TUS
First
85k + $332.86
BA 479 BCN/LHR
BA 297 LHR/ORD
AA 2636 ORD/TUS
It is worth flying first class LHR/ORD? It appears that LHR/PHX business is not lie flat.
Business
57.5k + $332.86
BA 479 BCN/LHR
BA 289 LHR/PHX
AA 5928 PHX/TUS
First
85k + $332.86
BA 479 BCN/LHR
BA 297 LHR/ORD
AA 2636 ORD/TUS
It is worth flying first class LHR/ORD? It appears that LHR/PHX business is not lie flat.
BA's J is not very good (old) and F is much better. Also, if you have enough time at LHR to experience the CR, it would be very nice. $332 fee is not too excessive (sometimes it's close to $1000 for F/J).
Use your useless AA miles as fast as you can - that is my mantra
Jun 26, 2017, 9:32 am
#1199
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 102
The Exec Plat agent told me it was not lie flat, and from what I could find online it doesn't seem to be lie flat. All of which could be incorrect of course. It seems to be a Boeing 747-400 (quad-jet). Per BA,
https://www.britishairways.com/en-us...-world-seatmap
Is that a lie flat configuration? The icons for the seat seem to be different from the first class that show it laid out.
https://www.britishairways.com/en-us.../first-seatmap
If it were in fact lie flat, I think that would be a better experience all the way to PHX, instead of having to spend a few hours on the ORD/TUS in AA first/business.
https://www.britishairways.com/en-us...-world-seatmap
Is that a lie flat configuration? The icons for the seat seem to be different from the first class that show it laid out.
https://www.britishairways.com/en-us.../first-seatmap
If it were in fact lie flat, I think that would be a better experience all the way to PHX, instead of having to spend a few hours on the ORD/TUS in AA first/business.
Jun 26, 2017, 9:36 am
#1200
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 102
It would be worth it flying BA F for me for a few reasons.
BA's J is not very good (old) and F is much better. Also, if you have enough time at LHR to experience the CR, it would be very nice. $332 fee is not too excessive (sometimes it's close to $1000 for F/J).
Use your useless AA miles as fast as you can - that is my mantra
BA's J is not very good (old) and F is much better. Also, if you have enough time at LHR to experience the CR, it would be very nice. $332 fee is not too excessive (sometimes it's close to $1000 for F/J).
Use your useless AA miles as fast as you can - that is my mantra
