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For AA's announcement of their new One-Way Flex Awards, see: http://www.aa.com/i18n/amrcorp/newsr...FlexAwards.jsp
For AA's FAQ on the new One-Way Flex Awards, including the new stopover rule, see: http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?...award_faqs.jsp
Note that free stopovers have been eliminated as of 8 April 2014, so that portion of this discussion is no longer current.
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For AA's announcement of their new One-Way Flex Awards, see: http://www.aa.com/i18n/amrcorp/newsr...FlexAwards.jsp
For AA's FAQ on the new One-Way Flex Awards, including the new stopover rule, see: http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?...award_faqs.jsp
Q: Do one-way awards include any stopovers?
A: Awards between North America and Europe, India, Asia, and Central / South America allow a stopover at the North American gateway. However, other one-way awards do not allow stopovers.
A: Awards between North America and Europe, India, Asia, and Central / South America allow a stopover at the North American gateway. However, other one-way awards do not allow stopovers.
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New One-Way Flex Award / Awards, <NO> Stopover Rule, and Booking Engine (May 9, 2009)
#991
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 36
Thanks for your answers.
Can I use 24 hours connection regardless of any other scheduled flights in the interval of 6-24 hours? Because I found this comment in the Aadvantage rules (http://flyerguide.com/index.php/Award_Rules_%28AA%29):
"Travel wholly within or between all other regions:
- Passenger has 6 hours to connect. If there are no scheduled flights within 6 hours, regardless of availability, the passenger must take the next scheduled flight but, may not exceed 24 hours.
- A connection with more than 24 hours will be considered a stopover."
And other question: Can I do 24 hours connection in the Aadvantage "domestic" zone (50 United States, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Canada), if it's international flight?
For example, LAX -> BNA -> JFK -> TXL ->FRA, 24 hours connection in BNA, is it realy or 4 hours only?
P.S. I'm not sure if I specify the "domestic" zone correctly, it may contain also Mexico and the Caribbean.
Can I use 24 hours connection regardless of any other scheduled flights in the interval of 6-24 hours? Because I found this comment in the Aadvantage rules (http://flyerguide.com/index.php/Award_Rules_%28AA%29):
"Travel wholly within or between all other regions:
- Passenger has 6 hours to connect. If there are no scheduled flights within 6 hours, regardless of availability, the passenger must take the next scheduled flight but, may not exceed 24 hours.
- A connection with more than 24 hours will be considered a stopover."
And other question: Can I do 24 hours connection in the Aadvantage "domestic" zone (50 United States, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Canada), if it's international flight?
For example, LAX -> BNA -> JFK -> TXL ->FRA, 24 hours connection in BNA, is it realy or 4 hours only?
P.S. I'm not sure if I specify the "domestic" zone correctly, it may contain also Mexico and the Caribbean.
Last edited by Maria Lyashkova; Mar 20, 2014 at 4:12 am
#992
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Southern California (LAX)
Programs: Marriott Gold, Identity Platnium (Cosmopolitan), Palladium Card, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 177
LAX to GCM (Grand Cayman Islands)
Grand Cayman Islands and the Ritz property is one of the places I would love to go. It appears that it costs only 12.5K miles starting in September to fly over there, and Miami happens to be one of the layover spots.
I read about open jaw (where I could stop in one north america destination before I fly over to some other continent). Would I be able to utilize that and stop in Miami for a couple of days?
For example, I see the following:
September 20
Fly LAX 7:25am , land MIA 3:25PM
fly MIA 7:10pm, land GCM 7:35pm
Thank you.
I read about open jaw (where I could stop in one north america destination before I fly over to some other continent). Would I be able to utilize that and stop in Miami for a couple of days?
For example, I see the following:
September 20
Fly LAX 7:25am , land MIA 3:25PM
fly MIA 7:10pm, land GCM 7:35pm
Thank you.
#993
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Not here; there!
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 29,584
Grand Cayman Islands and the Ritz property is one of the places I would love to go. It appears that it costs only 12.5K miles starting in September to fly over there, and Miami happens to be one of the layover spots.
I read about open jaw (where I could stop in one north america destination before I fly over to some other continent). Would I be able to utilize that and stop in Miami for a couple of days?
I read about open jaw (where I could stop in one north america destination before I fly over to some other continent). Would I be able to utilize that and stop in Miami for a couple of days?
An "open jaw" usually refers to flying to one city, and returning from another (or sometimes, starting your trip from one city, and returning to a different city). So, for example, AAA-XXX//YYY-AAA would be an example of an open jaw, as would AAA-XXX-BBB.
What you are asking about is a stopover, and whether you can get a free stopover at MIA on an LAX-GCM award. And the answer is, "No." The free stopover on AA's one-way Flex awards is only offered at the North American gateway on an award between North America and another award zone. Since both LAX and GCM are within AA's "North America" zone, you do not get a free stopover on an LAX-GCM award. (If you were flying LAX-SJO/CCS/LIM, etc., it would be a different story.)
Last edited by Microwave; Mar 29, 2014 at 1:42 am Reason: Added quote for continuity post merge
#994
Moderator: American AAdvantage, Signatures
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: London, England
Programs: UA 1K, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador, National Exec, AA EXP Emeritus
Posts: 9,765
Grand Cayman Islands and the Ritz property is one of the places I would love to go. It appears that it costs only 12.5K miles starting in September to fly over there, and Miami happens to be one of the layover spots.
I read about open jaw (where I could stop in one north america destination before I fly over to some other continent). Would I be able to utilize that and stop in Miami for a couple of days?
I read about open jaw (where I could stop in one north america destination before I fly over to some other continent). Would I be able to utilize that and stop in Miami for a couple of days?
Please note the sticky at the top of the consolidated thread which is titled Welcome to the New American Airlines Forum! PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING. With all of the changes about, it is important to know where to post, and reading that thread before posting (as the title suggests ) will help get you in the right place.
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#996
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Earth
Posts: 359
confused about the connection time rule
hi all, have read half of the posts and I am still confused about the connection time rule: I arrive into HKG at 17:50 and the next available connecting flight is 19:20. According to the CSR, I must take that flight even though I want to have an overnight stay in HKG ( plenty of flights available the next day prior to the 24 hr limit). Is she right that I have to take the flight at 19:20?
#997
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Programs: AA P-Pro, Chase SP, SPG Gold
Posts: 556
hi all, have read half of the posts and I am still confused about the connection time rule: I arrive into HKG at 17:50 and the next available connecting flight is 19:20. According to the CSR, I must take that flight even though I want to have an overnight stay in HKG ( plenty of flights available the next day prior to the 24 hr limit). Is she right that I have to take the flight at 19:20?
#999
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 12,478
#1002
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: CUR
Posts: 2,170
MIA's not my NA gateway, ORD is. I'm flying in from the Caribbean. However, this thread is about awards, I was talking about a revenue ticket. My mistake.
Very unfortunate that AA's getting rid of free international gateway stopovers.
Very unfortunate that AA's getting rid of free international gateway stopovers.
Last edited by Djokison; Apr 8, 2014 at 6:29 am
#1003
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: England
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold, UA Premier Platinum
Posts: 389
Obviously I could just use the phone, but is there any way of forcing such connections online?
#1005
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: England
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold, UA Premier Platinum
Posts: 389
As a follow up, if a connection eg MAN-PHL-LAX is shown as available, can you choose any flight from PHL-LAX that leaves within 24 hours, or do the rules require you to travel on the first available flight unless you pay the miles for both sectors individually?