JFK, EWR, LGA co-terminals - No longer able to switch airports on an award ticket?
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Not -too- bad...
This is the July 18th add:
This is the July 18th add:
Suppressed Connections (back to top)
Intra city airport connections in the New York City or Washington DC markets are not permitted on domestic to domestic connections. When booking an itinerary that includes a connection between two airports we should always verify the connecting time. When verifying the connecting time and a response of "Connection Suppressed Between Segments X And X" is returned, the connection is invalid and should not be booked.
- Domestic is defined as 50US, Puerto Rico & the US Virgin Islands
- Domestic to domestic connections will be suppressed in the New York City/Washington DC markets
- A connection is defined as under 4 hours. Connections exceeding 4 hours will be considered a stopover and will return a "Minimum Connect Time Edit Valid For All Connections" response when minimum connection time is verified.
- Customers who book itineraries with a stopover will be required to purchase the applicable fare and or award based on the stopover
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- This suppression is only on domestic to domestic connections
- Intra city connections will continue to be permitted when travel is domestic to international or international to domestic when the minimum connection times are met
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With SJU being classed as domestic, looking at the MCT on EF in NYC it does state
AA-US DD SUP INTER JFK - LGA
AA-US DD SUP INTER LGA - JFK
I don't see it as alignment with US, just the standard requirements of a ticket to abide by MCTs ( which also apply to paid tickets not just awards )
Originally Posted by EF
AA-US DD SUP INTER JFK - LGA
AA-US DD SUP INTER LGA - JFK
Last edited by Dave Noble; Jul 22, 2014 at 10:17 pm
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Suppressed Connections (back to top)
Intra city airport connections in the New York City or Washington DC markets are not permitted on domestic to domestic connections. When booking an itinerary that includes a connection between two airports we should always verify the connecting time. When verifying the connecting time and a response of "Connection Suppressed Between Segments X And X" is returned, the connection is invalid and should not be booked.
- Domestic is defined as 50US, Puerto Rico & the US Virgin Islands
- Domestic to domestic connections will be suppressed in the New York City/Washington DC markets
- A connection is defined as under 4 hours. Connections exceeding 4 hours will be considered a stopover and will return a "Minimum Connect Time Edit Valid For All Connections" response when minimum connection time is verified.
- Customers who book itineraries with a stopover will be required to purchase the applicable fare and or award based on the stopover
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- This suppression is only on domestic to domestic connections
- Intra city connections will continue to be permitted when travel is domestic to international or international to domestic when the minimum connection times are met
Last edited by JonNYC; Jul 22, 2014 at 10:39 pm
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On a 14 segment, 9 different airline, 27,000 mile trip through 11 countries, part paid (under $250) & part multiple awards, 4 "just shy of 24 hours" stopovers, an open-jaw, and 5 overnight flights, I spent more time on that stupid 11 mile connection than all else combined. Tickets issued, ticket numbers received.
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So Jon - does this apply to revenue tickets, everything? And is that only on the back end? I seem plenty of these itineraries, mixed-metal and JFK to LGA or vice versa, showing up on AA.com. Will they just not ticket through?
Last edited by arlflyer; Jul 23, 2014 at 8:31 am
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Technically, this is an international award despite having multiple domestic segments. So, I think that this falls under the exception mentioned. Either that, or the rep OP spoke to didn't catch up on these new rules.
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But AA states that Puerto Rico is considered domestic.
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Your interpretation is debatable. It is explicitly mentioned that intra-city connections are allowed on domestic to international or international to domestic awards.
Technically, this is an international award despite having multiple domestic segments. So, I think that this falls under the exception mentioned. Either that, or the rep OP spoke to didn't catch up on these new rules.
Technically, this is an international award despite having multiple domestic segments. So, I think that this falls under the exception mentioned. Either that, or the rep OP spoke to didn't catch up on these new rules.
That it is an international award is not relevant as to whether a connection is valid. The only thing that would seem to be debatable is whether a flight to SJU is domestic as far as MCT rules apply since D-I is permitted whilst D-D is suppressed
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Sorry, ticketing systems and back-end stuff are probably my worst areas of knowledge and I am having trouble understanding your response - are you saying that all of these domestic routings showing up on AA.com with LGA-JFK transfers are bogus or not?
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AA does not have such issues, so there is no problem with connecting between airports where the onward flight is on AA
Is aa.com offering domestic - domestic connections where onward travel is on US from the other airport
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For domestic connections between airports where the onward flight is on US, there is no valid connection between the 2 airports
AA does not have such issues, so there is no problem with connecting between airports where the onward flight is on AA
Is aa.com offering domestic - domestic connections where onward travel is on US from the other airport
AA does not have such issues, so there is no problem with connecting between airports where the onward flight is on AA
Is aa.com offering domestic - domestic connections where onward travel is on US from the other airport