Mar 7, 2014, 1:36 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
The current thread for discussing the 767-323ER Thompson Vantage Business Seats is https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/1542143-boeing-767-300-763-thompson-vantage-business-seat-map-best-seats.html.
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"CIP" Cabin Improvement Program Full Lie Flat Thompson Vantage Seat and All-Aisle Access. 16 of 24 with WiFi, Business with tablets for IFE.
See American Airlines Business Class Seat video in first post [/b][/center]
Due to thread and interest growth, please see 763 / 767 CIP New (2014) Business Seat and Map (master thread). BUSINESS SEAT and BUSINESS CABIN posts have moved to that thread.
NOTE: All currently flying 763s are refurbished.
100% of the active fleet have been converted (as of 30OCT17) (* = wifi available):
- N342AN*, N343AN*, N344AN*, N346AN*, N347AN*, N348AN*, N349AN*, N350AN*, N379AA, N381AN*, N384AA*, N385AM, N388AA, N389AA, N390AA, N391AA, N392AN, N393AN, N394AN, N395AN, N396AN, N397AN*, N398AN, and N399AN*.
The following 34 aircraft have been retired (as of 30OCT17):
- N345AN, N351AA, N352AA, N353AA, N354AA, N355AA, N357AA, N358AA, N39356, N359AA, N360AA, N361AA, N362AA, N363AA, N39364, N39365, N366AA, N39367, N368AA, N369AA, N370AA, N371AA, N372AA, N373AA, N374AA, N7375A, N376AN, N377AN, N378AN, N382AN, N383AN, N386AA, N387AM, N380AN (with N373AA being the final NGBC aircraft retired to Roswell on 30OCT17)
Program details:
- ~26 (46%) of AA's fleet of 57 763 / 767-323ERs have been retained and upgraded with a Cabin Improvement Program - 28 new horizontal lie-flat Thompson Vantage business seats, 14 MCE seats (row 11 gets removed as the business cabin is enlarged), and 163 coach / economy (including 14 exit row) seats. Other upgrades include international satellite Wi-Fi (refit started in 2016), 110V AC power outlets in the business cabin (MCE and coach will retain 15V DC cigarette-lighter style power), new overhead monitors and audio systems, and a refurbishment of lavatories and main cabin seats. No personal in-seat video system was installed - the premium cabin retain the Samsung Galaxy tablets (docked to seatbacks) on international flights, and the main cabin, as well as the premium cabin on domestic flights, will stay with shared overhead screens.
- These aircraft were refurbished for one reason: the AA/BA/IB/AY transatlantic joint business agreement requires that AA have lie-flat seats for transatlantic routes.
- Link to post with artist's rendition of new J cabin. Link to post with new seat maps as they appear in AA.com
- Link to airchive article including pictures, and Link to mycrewlife blog post with more renderings showing the business cabin.
- Link to FT Trip Report with images
- Link to AA's widebody CIP announcement. For 777 upgrades, see thread 777-200ER / 772 No First; New Business Announced 2014 (767 stuff moved).
J-cabin seat map:
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A D G J 2 0_ 0_0_ _0 2 3 _0 _0_0 0_ 3 4 0_ 0_0_ _0 4 5 _0 _0_0 0_ 5 6 0_ 0_0_ _0 6 7 _0 _0_0 0_ 7 8 0_ 0_0_ _0 8 A D G J Legend: 0 = seat; _ = table
Note: the seats in C behind seats with smaller consoles (inside center) have smaller foot cubbies; those with large feet or shoes will feel cramped. Those over six feet will feel cramped if they lie supine in the fully flattened seat; sleeping slanted or side sleeping with bent legs is possible.
In Business they offer a 110 VAC multi-socket in the e-pad front tray area, and another, as well as USB and audio mini jack at shoulder height over and at the rear of the console. Seat controls are touch controls, and can involuntarily be operated by resting your forearm on the console.
The tray table is released with a button; it pivots out and folds. Table height may impede those who are portly or have long legs. Overhead bins, IFE monitors, lavs etc. have not been upgraded.
JDiver's mini-report here.
Contributors: sensei, SDQBound(former B7e7US), Longboater, Econometrics[/COLOR]
ARCHIVE: Boeing 767-300 / 763 "CIP" with Lie Flat Business (2014 CIP)
Jan 19, 2014, 7:46 am
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I'm not sure how much of the truly innovative talent pool is still left at AA. I hope some survived in hibernation and will resurface, but the track record isn't too good; Virasb Vahidi was the rare innovator and shone during the turnaround, but Parker already fired him.
Feb 5, 2014, 6:26 am
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I have just booked several 772 flights as far out as November: The seat maps still are reflecting the current layout, and F fares are still sold.
However, the 763 CIP is definitely underway. Flights show new seat maps as early as late April.
Feb 5, 2014, 1:49 pm
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Renovated 767-300 / 763 with New Business Class Announced for 1 Apr 2014
Feb 5, 2014, 2:11 pm
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i think someone else reported JFK-ZRH is one of the first flights showing this new 1-2-1 763 arrangement in April sometime.
Feb 5, 2014, 2:13 pm
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JFK-ZRH and the return are showing the new seat map starting in late April.
Feb 5, 2014, 5:53 pm
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Feb 11, 2014, 10:09 am
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<772 -related-post content left in 772 thread>
Current 763 J-seat, is about 10.5 (a little less actually)
Current 763 J-seat, is about 10.5 (a little less actually)
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Feb 11, 2014, 10:27 am
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Also, by happenstance do you know what the size of the new "all aisle access" 763 J seats will be? Some of these look like they will be flying this spring.
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Feb 11, 2014, 10:42 am
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I do have details on the 763 new J-seats, but for some reason I'm being asked to not say a peep about those for now. Major competitive aspects to decisions like that, although, in truth, I can never make sense of why some things are shareable vs. others and on what timeline. But clearly something do to with what competitors are doing at any given juncture.
Feb 11, 2014, 11:15 am
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There's a finite number of ways to get all aisle flat beds in a 767... 
Feb 11, 2014, 11:32 am
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Feb 22, 2014, 2:55 pm
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Strange not to see any update on this yet... Anyone have any inside knowledge?
Feb 22, 2014, 3:11 pm
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Some other thread about row 11 seats on the 763 apparently being blocked now made me look up my upcoming reservations, and low and behold, the seat map for AA65 on April 9 now shows the new cabin. So things are definitely progressing! Now here's to hoping my SWU clears
Side note: In anticipation of row11 removal I had switched all my row11 seat assignments on upcoming 763 flights to 12 or 13, and this paid off - I'm still in my 13A seat even after 11 was deleted from the seat map and whoever had those seats assigned must have been displaced to somewhere else.
Feb 22, 2014, 4:10 pm
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Wow, removing 7 MCE seats is kind of a bummer, it was small sampling of them to begin with. Row 20 is definitely not MCE considering it doesn't recline at all. This will make it a little tougher to book pairs of seats if you aren't booking far in advance.
Feb 24, 2014, 6:31 am
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According to the ZRH team, they said they are a high yield route with important contracts with Credit Suisse. Therefore they are receiving new seats first.