Booking JFK-HNL-KOA on HA using AA miles
Feb 25, 2014, 3:47 pm
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Booking JFK-HNL-KOA on HA using AA miles
1. So for a specific date, I see SaverAward for JFK-HNL (17.5 or 22.5k) and also for HNL-KOA (5k) on AA.com. Both on HA. Flights are possible, timewise
2. I don't think it is possible to book JFK-HNL-KOA online.
3. I called AA.com to check what the mileage total would be. Hoping if I booked by calling it would be 22.5k since both were Saaver awards. Was told it was 17.5/22.5 + 5.
So, has anyone booked on HA and did not have to pay the extra 5k miles to get to another island?
2. I don't think it is possible to book JFK-HNL-KOA online.
3. I called AA.com to check what the mileage total would be. Hoping if I booked by calling it would be 22.5k since both were Saaver awards. Was told it was 17.5/22.5 + 5.
So, has anyone booked on HA and did not have to pay the extra 5k miles to get to another island?
Feb 25, 2014, 4:39 pm
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The extra 5K for the inter-island segment is standard.
Feb 25, 2014, 4:44 pm
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1. So for a specific date, I see SaverAward for JFK-HNL (17.5 or 22.5k) and also for HNL-KOA (5k) on AA.com. Both on HA. Flights are possible, timewise
2. I don't think it is possible to book JFK-HNL-KOA online.
3. I called AA.com to check what the mileage total would be. Hoping if I booked by calling it would be 22.5k since both were Saaver awards. Was told it was 17.5/22.5 + 5.
So, has anyone booked on HA and did not have to pay the extra 5k miles to get to another island?
2. I don't think it is possible to book JFK-HNL-KOA online.
3. I called AA.com to check what the mileage total would be. Hoping if I booked by calling it would be 22.5k since both were Saaver awards. Was told it was 17.5/22.5 + 5.
So, has anyone booked on HA and did not have to pay the extra 5k miles to get to another island?
However, if you are flexible, you can still find availability for 17.5/22.5 in Y for itineraries operated by AA and AS.
Feb 25, 2014, 4:52 pm
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AAdvantage awards between the Mainland and Hawaii do not include connecting inter-island flights. But as noted, connections on the Mainland are permitted, subject to the published-fare rules of the carrier that flies between the Mainland and the Hawaiian destination.
AAdvantage awards between the Mainland and Hawaii do not include connecting inter-island flights. But as noted, connections on the Mainland are permitted, subject to the published-fare rules of the carrier that flies between the Mainland and the Hawaiian destination.
Feb 25, 2014, 5:18 pm
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It seems like any NYC to any Hawaiian island on AA is few and far between or non existent. The few that are available are horrible routing like JFK-sea-PDX-Hawaii. Couple of years ago I was able to book JFK-lax-koa on AA no problem. Now that never shows up as Saver. And I've been checking the each new release day.
Any chance I can use US Airways miles for the inter island flights?
Any chance I can use US Airways miles for the inter island flights?
Feb 25, 2014, 8:35 pm
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Up until a few years ago, one could only use AA miles to be redeemed for interisland awards, priced at 5,000 each leg.
Then, changed their redemption policy with AA allowing AAdvantage Miles to be redeemed for all of HA's routes.
The interisland award has never changed.
So if you're wanting to redeem AA miles for interisland travel, there's no way to avoid paying additional miles.
You'll find the same requirement on DL if you're redeeming miles to travel interisland on HA, when connecting DL to HA.
UA allows you bundle their metal and interisland travel for no addtional miles if connecting onward, within allowed connection time windows.
Then, changed their redemption policy with AA allowing AAdvantage Miles to be redeemed for all of HA's routes.
The interisland award has never changed.
So if you're wanting to redeem AA miles for interisland travel, there's no way to avoid paying additional miles.
You'll find the same requirement on DL if you're redeeming miles to travel interisland on HA, when connecting DL to HA.
UA allows you bundle their metal and interisland travel for no addtional miles if connecting onward, within allowed connection time windows.
Feb 25, 2014, 8:48 pm
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Award travel between Hawaii and North America does not include inter-island flights.
Feb 25, 2014, 9:03 pm
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Originally Posted by UA MileagePlus
Hawaii Inter-island Saver Award Add-on: Add a Hawaiian Airlines or Island Air inter-island connection in Economy class +6,000 award miles each way.
Feb 26, 2014, 12:52 am
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This must have changed with the recent devaluation over at UA Mileage Plus in early Feburary 2014, as an award search done in January 2014 showed that a:
OGG-HNL [on HA]
HNL-EWR [UA]
priced the same as
OGG-SFO [UA]
SFO-EWR [UA]
There is now a variance in miles requried, where previously there was not a difference when pricing such awards on United.com
I thought it was strange at the time that such awards were priced the same; obviously now they are not.
OGG-HNL [on HA]
HNL-EWR [UA]
priced the same as
OGG-SFO [UA]
SFO-EWR [UA]
There is now a variance in miles requried, where previously there was not a difference when pricing such awards on United.com
I thought it was strange at the time that such awards were priced the same; obviously now they are not.
Feb 27, 2014, 8:34 am
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HA flights are available on Aadvantage but they have different rules. Lhr-lax-hnl is 1 award if you use Aa or As but 2 if you use the HA mainland flights. Similarly HA will not allow First class redemption inter island on AADVANTAGE. Given interisland prices I would book JFK - HNL on miles and pay the 64 bucks for the connector.