Last edit by: Prospero
AA Boeing 737-800, type 738D
(configured 16F, 144Y, including 30 MCE - including Exit rows). Current seats seem to be Zodiac 5751 slimline seats.
All aircraft have been converted to the type 738K Oasis/Kodiak configuration
Archived content
Under Project Oasis this type will ultimately be refitted to 737 MAX 8 Project Oasis standards, with 170 seats: 16 F / J seats with reduced pitch and recline, and 156 ultra-slimline Rockwell Collins (previously B/E Aerospace) Meridian seats with 30 pitch in Main Cabin, 33pitch in Main Cabin Extra and ultra-slimline lavs, onboard served WiFi IFE (no seatback) IFE, etc.
All 738s delivered prior to 10 Dec 2013 are equipped with center ceiling mounted drop down screens;
738s delivered on or after 10 Dec 2013 currently have seat-back AVOD and 110 VAC plus USB seat power. The IFE will ultimately be replaced by WiFi served IFE.
Link to AA fleet list - 737-800 configuration information by registration ("tail") numbers.
738s (until modified to 7M8 standards) are laid out:
First / Business rows 3-6 (no rows 1 or 2)
Economy from rows 7-30; MCE from rows 7-9, and MCE exit rows 14 and 15. Row 15 has full recline.
Signed in members with 90 days / 90 posts can edit this Wikipost; wiki contents may be printed by using the (lower right wiki corner)
(configured 16F, 144Y, including 30 MCE - including Exit rows). Current seats seem to be Zodiac 5751 slimline seats.
All aircraft have been converted to the type 738K Oasis/Kodiak configuration
Archived content
Under Project Oasis this type will ultimately be refitted to 737 MAX 8 Project Oasis standards, with 170 seats: 16 F / J seats with reduced pitch and recline, and 156 ultra-slimline Rockwell Collins (previously B/E Aerospace) Meridian seats with 30 pitch in Main Cabin, 33pitch in Main Cabin Extra and ultra-slimline lavs, onboard served WiFi IFE (no seatback) IFE, etc.
All 738s delivered prior to 10 Dec 2013 are equipped with center ceiling mounted drop down screens;
738s delivered on or after 10 Dec 2013 currently have seat-back AVOD and 110 VAC plus USB seat power. The IFE will ultimately be replaced by WiFi served IFE.
Link to AA fleet list - 737-800 configuration information by registration ("tail") numbers.
738s (until modified to 7M8 standards) are laid out:
First / Business rows 3-6 (no rows 1 or 2)
Economy from rows 7-30; MCE from rows 7-9, and MCE exit rows 14 and 15. Row 15 has full recline.
Signed in members with 90 days / 90 posts can edit this Wikipost; wiki contents may be printed by using the (lower right wiki corner)
Unrefitted 738 / 737 pre-Oasis, non-MAX MCE / Main Cabin + Extra Seats
#31
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Airline nobody. Sad!
Posts: 26,062
That might not be possible because there's only so much space ahead of the exit rows, which can't move.
#32
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Matre-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
If it's only four seats, AA's most flexible way of dealing with this is to use the seat blocking trays. They can easily remove the dividers and add an FA on higher revenue flights if they wish to.
#33
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Location: LAX; AA EXP, MM; HH Gold
Posts: 31,789
It's possible but it results in lotsa space for the resulting four rows of MCE; perhaps they could be labeled MCE+++.
#34
Join Date: Sep 2011
Programs: AA SPG Amex
Posts: 4,644
Agreed. During the MRTC era, there were 20 F seats and a mere four rows ahead of the exits - those seats featured legroom that rivaled the exit rows. Plus closets behind the fifth row of F. Remove two more rows of economy, add one row of F for a seat count of 20F/126Y (total of 146).
#35
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2004
Location: DFW/DAL
Programs: AA Lifetime PLT, AS MVPG, HH Diamond, NCL Platinum Plus, MSC Diamond
Posts: 21,422
If "X" marks the seats made unavailable, then I am confused. Why do this for non-middle seats?
#36
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Airline nobody. Sad!
Posts: 26,062
X seats are usually reserved for gate control, they can be released or unreleased. However, they still count as available seats on the plane. With a seat map as it is, the seats are treated as nonexistant.
#37
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: MIA
Programs: AA EXP 3.8MM AC; UA Silver; Hyatt Globalist; Honors Diamond; Bonvoy LT TTM
Posts: 336
New Y Row for EXPs?
I was chatting with a GA in MIA yesterday, and she was telling me that there are several 738s that have row 17 and 18 (or close to those rows) with a table installed in the middle seat (similar to how European carriers create business class seating out of standard economy seats). She told me they are blocked to give be given to EXPs in Economy. I found it odd that I haven't seen any reports about these on FT. Has anyone seen or experienced such seating? Maybe it's something they're testing vs. an official product.
#38
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Location: LAX; AA EXP, MM; HH Gold
Posts: 31,789
There was a thread here about a week ago with pictures. Lots more shoulder room and very tight legroom. Really too bad that AA chose not to block four MCE seats - I'd pay $$ for more legroom and more width.
#39
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: DFW
Programs: AA PLT; SPG PLT
Posts: 326
It was discussed here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...dle-seats.html
First we've heard of it being EXP-only, I believe, though.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...dle-seats.html
First we've heard of it being EXP-only, I believe, though.
#41
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: SAN
Programs: AA-EXP; US-Silver; Marriott-Platinum; Starwood-Platinum; Hilton-Gold
Posts: 1,260
Those seats have nothing to do with accommodating EXPs. Don't let it fool you. It's Americans way of saving money to avoid paying for an extra flight attendant. One for every 50 pax. By eliminating a few seats they now can fly with one less FA.
#43
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Bay Area
Programs: WN A-List, AA good-riddance, Safeway Club Card Extraordinaire
Posts: 3,851
#44
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Airline nobody. Sad!
Posts: 26,062
#45
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: UA 1K, AA 2MM, Bonvoy LT Plt, Mets fan
Posts: 5,073
I asked why they did that, and she said that they removed one row and blocked off those 4 seats to decrease the capacity from 250 to 240 because by law you need one FA per 50 PACs or something like that, and removing those 10 allows them to remove one crew member, so the other 3 do slightly more work.