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AA Boeing 737-800, type 738D
(configured 16F, 144Y, including 30 MCE - including Exit rows). Current seats seem to be Zodiac 5751 slimline seats.

All aircraft have been converted to the type 738K Oasis/Kodiak configuration



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Under “Project Oasis” this type will ultimately be refitted to 737 MAX 8 “Project Oasis” standards, with 170 seats: 16 F / J seats with reduced pitch and recline, and 156 ultra-slimline Rockwell Collins (previously B/E Aerospace) Meridian seats with 30” pitch in Main Cabin, 33”pitch in Main Cabin Extra and ultra-slimline lavs, onboard served WiFi IFE (no seatback) IFE, etc.

All 738s delivered prior to 10 Dec 2013 are equipped with center ceiling mounted drop down screens;

738s delivered on or after 10 Dec 2013 currently have seat-back AVOD and 110 VAC plus USB seat power. The IFE will ultimately be replaced by WiFi served IFE.

Link to AA fleet list - 737-800 configuration information by registration ("tail") numbers.

738s (until modified to 7M8 standards) are laid out:

First / Business rows 3-6 (no rows 1 or 2)

Economy from rows 7-30; MCE from rows 7-9, and MCE exit rows 14 and 15. Row 15 has full recline.

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Old Oct 6, 2014, 5:55 pm
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Just booked two flights on 738's... Economy rows are 7-30, first three rows in economy are MCE, blocks are gone on 16 and 17 B and E... And this is on a SERIOUSLY elite-heavy route.

Gone are the glory days of reasonably comfortable seating on 738's...
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Old Oct 15, 2014, 10:18 pm
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It sounds like some things have changed recently. Do some configurations still have the middle seats blocked in Row 16?

I'm trying to decide between 16F and 15F. Both are available. On AA.com, 16E doesn't show a seat number when I mouse-over it, so that leads me to believe it is still blocked? Is that right? Is 16F the way to go?
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Old Oct 15, 2014, 10:26 pm
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You should be able to check if it is the new configuration by seeing whether there is a row 7, and whether there are non-MCE seats in front of the exit row. Both would indicate the new configuration.
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Old Oct 15, 2014, 11:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Debonaire
You should be able to check if it is the new configuration by seeing whether there is a row 7, and whether there are non-MCE seats in front of the exit row. Both would indicate the new configuration.
It looks like coach starts at row 8. I can't see F so I'm not sure whether there is a row 7. Also can't tell whether there are non-MCA seats in front of the exit row because almost all seats are taken. (This is for a flight tomorrow). 16F and 15F are still available.
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Old Oct 15, 2014, 11:31 pm
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It sounds to me that 16E is still blocked, then. In the new configuration, row 7 should be a new MCE row, while rows 10, 11, 12, and 13 have been converted to normal Y rows.
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Old Oct 16, 2014, 10:55 am
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Are rows 14/15 getting impacted by the newly fitted 738s?
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 8:13 pm
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I'm on a DCA-DFW round-trip in early November. My outbound flight has the old MCE with the blocked middle seats behind the exit row. My return flight does not.
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Old Oct 21, 2014, 11:32 am
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Checking LGA MIA NOV 2 AA2229. Anybody know/guess as to why MCE rows are all blocked (X in ExpertFlyer).
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Old Oct 21, 2014, 12:32 pm
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Others have reported similar observations. I think the best guess is that they've blocked MCE rows in case there's an equipment swap to one of the new planes that have fewer MCE rows, in which case MCE could be oversold.
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Old Oct 22, 2014, 3:00 am
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Originally Posted by seawolf
Checking LGA MIA NOV 2 AA2229. Anybody know/guess as to why MCE rows are all blocked (X in ExpertFlyer).
Looking on AA using a dummy... its just not MCE. Everything is blocked.
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Old Oct 22, 2014, 6:03 am
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Originally Posted by carsnoceans
Looking on AA using a dummy... its just not MCE. Everything is blocked.
Aa.com will show the blocked seats as assigned. But EF shows that more than half the MCE seats are not assigned just blocked from being assigned.
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Old Oct 23, 2014, 8:23 am
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The 737-800 on was booked on just added a row 7. And now MCE is just three rows 7,8,9. What does this mean? No MCE?
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Old Oct 23, 2014, 9:25 am
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Originally Posted by Centurion
The 737-800 on was booked on just added a row 7. And now MCE is just three rows 7,8,9. What does this mean? No MCE?
**Groan** Fantastic!!

Have three trips to LAX/SFO in Nov. So far I am on old config... will report back if I get (un)lucky and there is equipment change.

I suppose the best time to take pictures is after everybody gets off??
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Old Oct 23, 2014, 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by Centurion
The 737-800 on was booked on just added a row 7. And now MCE is just three rows 7,8,9. What does this mean? No MCE?
No, just fewer MCE rows.

Read this thread:
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Old Oct 23, 2014, 10:28 am
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Originally Posted by Centurion
The 737-800 on was booked on just added a row 7. And now MCE is just three rows 7,8,9. What does this mean? No MCE?
No, it does not mean No MCE. It means that only rows 7, 8, 9, 14 and 15 are MCE.

Edit: TWA884 beat me to it.

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