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● For up-to-date information on AA's inclement weather travel policy for post-Sandy and other events, see: AA Travel Alerts / Travel Notices and Policy

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● For additional information on NYC travel disruptions, see this thread in the NYC Forum: Hurricane Sandy - Emergency Measures and Travel Impacts (Oct 2012)

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Old Oct 29, 12, 10:40 am   #181
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I just hope that these cancellations don't ripple into our flights to LGA on Saturday (11/3) and back on Monday (11/5). Right now they look pretty open for upgrades

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Old Oct 29, 12, 11:50 am   #182
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I am at dfw Admirals club C as I type this. Things are oddly quiet here. Looking at the board, the closest you can get to the east coast is Pittsburgh. I was scheduled to fly dfw-lga this am and am instead, thankfully heading home.
At the hotel last night there were a number of New Yorkers in town for a trade show who are stuck for the duration. I would venture to guess that it will take at least a couple of days of flying full schedules to get people where they need to be. As to brp, not sure the city is the place to be next weekend. I just booked stl-lga for next Monday with a Tuesday return for 25k miles.
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Old Oct 29, 12, 12:22 pm   #183
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As I used 3 e500's, I'm hoping AA redeposits those without an issue. We'll see.
Electronic upgrades do not get pulled from your account until your flight departs, so you will not have a problem.

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The authorities (airlines, NY transportation, etc.) seem to be using the "Italian Earthquake Expert" formula - warn everyone, because you don't want to be blamed if you are wrong. Right now, 11:30am EST on Monday, the only major airport which is actually closed for weather is Andrews Air Force Base. Probably would have been safe to operate the subways until midnight last night.
It's one thing for an airport to be technically Open. It's another to be sitting on an RJ trying to land in winds that are currently 30 kts and gusting in the 40s with forecasts for gusts into the >50-kt range.

The NYC subway shutdown at 7pm Sunday night was not so much about passenger safety. It was about giving MTA sufficient time to move equipment to higher ground and to secure their facilities. As noted on the local news this morning, it's one thing for the subway to get flooded with fresh water; it's a very different thing to get flooded with saltwater from the storm surge (think corroded switches and signals), which is what they are hoping to prevent down in the Battery where many subway lines converge.
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Old Oct 29, 12, 12:42 pm   #184
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The authorities (airlines, NY transportation, etc.) seem to be using the "Italian Earthquake Expert" formula - warn everyone, because you don't want to be blamed if you are wrong. Right now, 11:30am EST on Monday, the only major airport which is actually closed for weather is Andrews Air Force Base. Probably would have been safe to operate the subways until midnight last night.
The FAA site mislead you; ACY has been closed since early this morning ( but no mention of Andrews being closed):

http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/nemap.jsp

The closure of ACY is listed below the line (in the ADW box), so the FAA shares a lot of the blame for the confusion.

A few other minor airports are closed, but I just saw Weather Channel footage of the PHL airport with plasitc bags placed over all ticket counter computers and kiosks.
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Old Oct 29, 12, 12:45 pm   #185
 
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I doubt it. It's not really supposed to be too bad, if it is an issue at all, that far west. The only impact would be from inbound a/c that were impacted by the storm. Chicago itself should be more-or-less okay, I would think.
Not bad today, however tomorrow is another story. We are supposed to have 45 mph sustained winds with gusts to 60+. If that comes to fruition there will be an impact at ORD/MDW. This lady's kicking waves up to 25 feet on our little lake East of the city, which is just a tad unusual.
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Old Oct 29, 12, 4:52 pm   #186
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Latest FAA Update from 6:00pm EDT Teleconference

Airlines currently anticipate trying to resume operations on Wednesday.

http://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_other...eDate=10/29/12

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ATCSCC ADVZY 033 DCC 10/29/12 HURRICANE SANDY TELCON_FYI

IMPACTED AREA: U.S. EAST COAST

WIND ESTIMATES:
TUESDAY: DC METROS 24030G50, NY METROS 15035G55
WEDNESDAY: DC METROS SW 10G20, NY METROS SOUTH 15G30


STORM SURGE: NY METROS 11' SURGE POSSIBLE

NY HIGH TIDE: (BATTERY PARK)
MONDAY 1232Z/0053Z
TUESDAY 1307Z/0133Z
WEDNESDAY 1341Z-0214Z

SANDY PUBLIC ADVISORY - NHC ADVISORY 30
LOCATION - 30 ESE SOUTH OF CAPE MAY, NJ
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 90 MPH
MOVEMENT - WNW AT 28 MPH

NY/DC/PHL/BOS AIRPORTS. ALL

MASS TRANSIT:
MASS TRANSIT AURHORITY OF NEW YORK ADVISES THE TRAIN AND SUBWAY
SYSTEM WILL CEASE OPERATIONS AT 2300Z. THE BUS SYSTEM WILL BE
DISCONTINUED AT 0100Z.
BOS MASSPORT ADVISES WINDS OF 50KTS COULD STOP SERVICE.
WASHINGON DC, NO DECISIONS MADE AT THIS TIME.
PHL HOLDING A MEETING AT 1600Z TO DISCUSS THE SCENARIO.

AIRPORT INFORMATION:
..LGA, NYPA ADVISES A 4' STORM SURGE COULD PUT THE RWY'S UNDERWATER.
..JFK IS A LITTLE BETTER THAN LGA REGARDING SURGE. RWY'S 4L AND 31R
TEND TO FLOOD LAST.
..EWR CONCERNS OVER PUMPING STATION POWER SUPPLIES FAILURE WOULD
RESULT IN AIRPORT FLOODING DURING HEAVY PERIODS OF RAIN OR STORM
SURGES
..IAD OPEN, SEEING A REDUCTION IN THE SCHEDULE. THE EMERGENCY
OPERATION CENTER WILL BE ACTIVATED LATER TODAY.
..PHL'S BRIDGE TO THE AIRPORT COULD BE EFFECTED BY HIGH WINDS, NO
DEFINITE PARAMETERS AT PRESENT.

CONTROL TOWER WIND THRESHOLDS TOLERANCES. WINDS IN THE RANGES BELOW
COULD PROMPT EVACUATIONS:

IAD-75 KTS EWR-70 KTS PHL-65 KTS
BWI-70 KTS JFK-70 KTS BOS-70 KTS
DCA-60 KTS LGA-CAT III WINDS

FLIGHT STATUS: FOR NY/DC/PHL/BOS SEVERAL AIRLINES ARE STILL IN THE
PLANNING STAGES. OVERALL CONSENSUS IS RESUMING OPERATIONS ON
WEDNESDAY. WINDS WILL STILL BE STRONG ON TUESDAY
AND POTENTIAL DAMAGE COULD PROMPT FURTHER CANCELLATIONS.

DAILY TELCONS WILL OCCUR AT 1215Z AND 2200Z. NOTE MONRING TELCON
TIME CHANGE.
CUSTOMERS AND FACILITIES NOTE NEXT PLANNING TELCON 28/2200Z
TO PARTICIPATE CALL USA NUMBER 540-359-3200, PIN 2333#.
ALTERNATE USA PHONE NUMBER 540-359-3158
QUESTION: ATCSCC INTERNATIONAL POSITION 540-359-4158

REPLACES ATCSCC ADVZY 022
292210-301200

12/10/29 22:16 DCCOPS./nfs/lxstn33
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Old Oct 29, 12, 7:23 pm   #187
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Exclamation NYC Airports Officially Closed

LGA, JFK, EWR all officially closed at 8pm EDT

LGA expected to reopen Tuesday, Oct 30 at 8:26pm EDT.
JFK expected to reopen Wednesday, Oct 31 at 7:00pm EDT.
EWR expected to reopen Wednesday, Oct 31 at 7:00am EDT.
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Old Oct 29, 12, 10:34 pm   #188
 
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LGA, JFK, EWR all officially closed at 8pm EDT

LGA expected to reopen Tuesday, Oct 30 at 8:26pm EDT.
JFK expected to reopen Wednesday, Oct 31 at 7:00pm EDT.
EWR expected to reopen Wednesday, Oct 31 at 7:00am EDT.
JFK expected to reopen Wednesday, Oct 31 at 7:00pm EDT. -- did you mean 7am EDT?
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Old Oct 29, 12, 10:51 pm   #189
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JFK expected to reopen Wednesday, Oct 31 at 7:00pm EDT. -- did you mean 7am EDT?
Not sure where dstan got the info, but this is the current NOTAM for JFK (although dstan's better, as the NOTAMS are indeterminate):

Code:
10/246 (A4418/12) - AD CLSD. WIE UNTIL UFN. CREATED: 30 OCT 02:22 2012
In english: aerodrome [i.e. airport] closed. With immediate effect until further notice. Created: 30 October 2012 at 02:22Z, or 29 October 2012 at 21:22 local time.

LGA is:

Code:
10/157 (A1542/12) - AD CLSD FIXED WING. 30 OCT 00:26 2012 UNTIL UFN. CREATED: 30 OCT 00:28 2012
In english: aerodrome [i.e. airport] closed to fixed wing (i.e. not to helicopters etc.) from 30 October 00:26 2012 (29 October 19:26 local) until further notice. Created: 30 October 2012 at 00:28Z, or 29 October 2012 at 19:28 local time.
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Old Oct 29, 12, 11:16 pm   #190
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JFK expected to reopen Wednesday, Oct 31 at 7:00pm EDT. -- did you mean 7am EDT?
I thought it was a typo, too, but it was straight off the FAA website, which has since been changed to reopening times "unknown"

http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/plaintext.html

Local news reporting LGA was flooded at the intersection of the two runways at the peak of the surge, but water has since receded.

Storm surge in Battery Park at the southern tip of Manhattan peaked at 14 ft vs 11 forecast. Lots of flooding throughout low lying areas. Power out below 42nd St. No reports on the subway yet, but tunnels flooded and bridges closed due to high winds.
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Old Oct 29, 12, 11:23 pm   #191
 
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Get me an odds maker..I would not mind betting that it ends up nowhere near NY/NJ Area.
Bwaaa...haw...haw.

You were so correct.
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Old Oct 30, 12, 10:37 am   #192
 
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Second round of cancellations coming through on the 31st...
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Old Oct 30, 12, 10:57 am   #193
 
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UA and DL allow changes to be applied as a credit for any future flight without change fee beyond 10/7 if the change is voluntary.

Does AA allow this?
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Old Oct 30, 12, 11:06 am   #194
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Latest FAA Update from 8:15am EDT Teleconference

http://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_other...eDate=10/30/12

Quote:
ATCSCC ADVZY 021 DCC 10/30/2012 POST-TROPICAL STORM SANDY 1215Z TELCON_FYI

MESSAGE:

***THIS ADVZY REPLACES ATCSCC ADVZY 033***

IMPACTED AREA: NEW ENGLAND AND MID-ATLANTIC STATES
SANDY PUBLIC ADVISORY - NHC ADVISORY 31
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - MAX 55 WITH GUSTS TO 65 KTS
MOVEMENT - NW AT 16 KTS

AIRPORT INFORMATION:
..NY METROS: JFK/EWR/LGA CLOSED UFN; MORE FLOODING POSSIBLE TODAY ESPECIALLY AT JFK/LGA. REFER TO NOTAMS REGARDING THESE AND OTHER NY SATELLITE AIRPORTS.
..PHL: OPEN AND OPERATIONAL; REDUCED FLIGHT SCHEDULE; LIMITED CUSTOMS.
..DC METROS: OPEN AND OPERATIONAL; REDUCED FLIGHT SCHEDULE; LIMITED CUSTOMS.

FLIGHT STATUS: U.S. DOMESTIC FLIGHTS ARE OPERATING ON A REDUCED
SCHEDULE INTO PHL/DC METRO AIRPORTS. NO ESTIMATE ON RESUMING
OPERATIONS INTO THE AFFECTED NY METRO AIRPORTS.
PLEASE CHECK NOTAM INFORMATION.

DAILY TELCONS WILL OCCUR AT 1215Z AND 2200Z.
CUSTOMERS AND FACILITIES NOTE NEXT PLANNING TELCON 30/2200Z
TELCON NUMBER: 540-359-3200, PIN 2333#.
ALTERNATE CONTACT NUMBER 540-359-3158
ATCSCC HURRICANE/TROPICAL STORM DESK: 540-422-4158
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Old Oct 30, 12, 11:17 am   #195
 
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AA from MIA to JFK tomorrow (Weds 31 Oct 2012)?

Is there any chance this flight is going to get out? I need to get back to NY, get clothes and make it to another city on Thurs. does it look like AA's JFK ops will be back online tomorrow or should I try to route throug a different part of the country to be sure I get where I am going on Thurs?
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