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For AA's announcement of their new One-Way Flex Awards, see: http://www.aa.com/i18n/amrcorp/newsr...FlexAwards.jsp
For AA's FAQ on the new One-Way Flex Awards, including the new stopover rule, see: http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?...award_faqs.jsp
Note that free stopovers have been eliminated as of 8 April 2014, so that portion of this discussion is no longer current.
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For AA's announcement of their new One-Way Flex Awards, see: http://www.aa.com/i18n/amrcorp/newsr...FlexAwards.jsp
For AA's FAQ on the new One-Way Flex Awards, including the new stopover rule, see: http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?...award_faqs.jsp
Q: Do one-way awards include any stopovers?
A: Awards between North America and Europe, India, Asia, and Central / South America allow a stopover at the North American gateway. However, other one-way awards do not allow stopovers.
A: Awards between North America and Europe, India, Asia, and Central / South America allow a stopover at the North American gateway. However, other one-way awards do not allow stopovers.
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New One-Way Flex Award / Awards, <NO> Stopover Rule, and Booking Engine (May 9, 2009)
May 10, 2009, 6:54 am
#61
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Good luck with that one. AA eliminated the downfaring a while back, so I doubt they will do it on awards now.
You could cancel your trip, redeposit the miles for a fee and rebook yourself. Of course that means you lose your seat, availability might be an issue, etc...
You could cancel your trip, redeposit the miles for a fee and rebook yourself. Of course that means you lose your seat, availability might be an issue, etc...
May 10, 2009, 7:02 am
#62
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I'm not saying, but just last night, I was also able to purchase a one way ticket on American for exactly half the round trip fare. Is this now system wide pricing policy, no penalty for buying just one way tickets, besides the AA one way award availability?? Did I miss this announcement somehow?
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May 10, 2009, 7:02 am
#63
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so let's see if i understand the new rules: planning to use award for travel from JFK to DPS over HKG (AA/Cathay pacific). had been planning to stop two days in HKG since connection is overnight there anyway. now will have to sleep on a bench overnight at HKG or scramble back from hotel to pick up flight to DPS??????
BTW, I had no difficulty finding ample J inventory on CX this summer, but it usually does force a HKG overnight in at least one direction. The schedule on JL is better, but summer inventory hasn't been released save for drips and drabs. But in theory, JFKNRT/NRTDPS in both direction can be done with just a few hours in NRT each time.
May 10, 2009, 7:23 am
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I'll be curious what you find out for this (in part due I'm going to DPS as well this summer). I confirmed with BA yesterday that stopovers are still very much permitted on OW itineraries, even when including AA. So if BA were booking the ticket, you could avoid sleeping on the bench in HKG. Hence it seems odd that booking through AA would mean the bench.
BTW, I had no difficulty finding ample J inventory on CX this summer, but it usually does force a HKG overnight in at least one direction. The schedule on JL is better, but summer inventory hasn't been released save for drips and drabs. But in theory, JFKNRT/NRTDPS in both direction can be done with just a few hours in NRT each time.
BTW, I had no difficulty finding ample J inventory on CX this summer, but it usually does force a HKG overnight in at least one direction. The schedule on JL is better, but summer inventory hasn't been released save for drips and drabs. But in theory, JFKNRT/NRTDPS in both direction can be done with just a few hours in NRT each time.
but we are talking here about AA awards using AA miles... no?
mike
May 10, 2009, 8:07 am
#65
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Of course. I was simply pointing out that it seems odd that oneworld stopovers could be determined based on the currency one books with.
May 10, 2009, 8:07 am
#66
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Another benefit of the changes:
I was wondering about the fact that the multi-city award page allows for 4 parts, and then it hit me - by pricing a r/t as two 1-ways, that means that where stopovers are still allowed (gateway city), you can now get two free stopovers, one in each direction.
I was wondering about the fact that the multi-city award page allows for 4 parts, and then it hit me - by pricing a r/t as two 1-ways, that means that where stopovers are still allowed (gateway city), you can now get two free stopovers, one in each direction.
May 10, 2009, 8:09 am
#67
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Dammit, why didn't they do this last month?
I would have been all over the FCO-BKK for 50 Euros combo-ed with the KUL-YVR in C for $600 if I had just been able to get a cheap flight one-way to FCO!
I would have been all over the FCO-BKK for 50 Euros combo-ed with the KUL-YVR in C for $600 if I had just been able to get a cheap flight one-way to FCO!
May 10, 2009, 8:29 am
#68
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Another benefit of the changes:
I was wondering about the fact that the multi-city award page allows for 4 parts, and then it hit me - by pricing a r/t as two 1-ways, that means that where stopovers are still allowed (gateway city), you can now get two free stopovers, one in each direction.
I was wondering about the fact that the multi-city award page allows for 4 parts, and then it hit me - by pricing a r/t as two 1-ways, that means that where stopovers are still allowed (gateway city), you can now get two free stopovers, one in each direction.
Newark - Jackson Hole ($219 in Y / Purchased Ticket)
[Stop]
Jackson Hole - Newark (F Award Ticket #1)
[Stop]
New York - Hong Kong (F Award Ticket #1)
[Stop]
Hong Kong - New York (F Award Ticket #2)
[Stop]
New York (LaGuardia) - Eagle, CO (F Award Ticket #2)
[Stop]
Eagle, CO - New York ($219 in Y / Purchased Ticket)
^
May 10, 2009, 8:31 am
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May 10, 2009, 8:32 am
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.. now ask me which one I prefer? Viva le diference.
mike
May 10, 2009, 8:47 am
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May 10, 2009, 9:00 am
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I eventually booked a OW F award on AA TPA/MIA/LHR/NRT/PEK/HKG/YYZ/ORD/TPA and the charges for the entire itin came up to $157
( it includes the same HKG/YYZ CX leg)I am pretty certain if I booked the above on BA it would have been substantially higher.
mike
May 10, 2009, 9:04 am
#73
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I'll be curious what you find out for this (in part due I'm going to DPS as well this summer). I confirmed with BA yesterday that stopovers are still very much permitted on OW itineraries, even when including AA. So if BA were booking the ticket, you could avoid sleeping on the bench in HKG. Hence it seems odd that booking through AA would mean the bench.
BTW, I had no difficulty finding ample J inventory on CX this summer, but it usually does force a HKG overnight in at least one direction. The schedule on JL is better, but summer inventory hasn't been released save for drips and drabs. But in theory, JFKNRT/NRTDPS in both direction can be done with just a few hours in NRT each time.
BTW, I had no difficulty finding ample J inventory on CX this summer, but it usually does force a HKG overnight in at least one direction. The schedule on JL is better, but summer inventory hasn't been released save for drips and drabs. But in theory, JFKNRT/NRTDPS in both direction can be done with just a few hours in NRT each time.
May 10, 2009, 10:19 am
#74
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The definition of a stopover is now different on the one way awards. A stopover is defined as more than 4 hours for itineraries using an award within/between the U.S./Canada/PR/U.S. VI and more than 24 hours for Mexico, Carribean or other international awards. They have seperated SJU and Carribean for the pupose of stopover rules. So I interpret this to mean SJU is an acceptable stopover for EIS.