Jan 23, 2015, 6:01 pm
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American Airlines' first Boeing 787 / 787-8 "Dreamliner" delivered at DFW Jan 2015
discussion, current and future deliveries, 1st delivery video link
discussion, current and future deliveries, 1st delivery video link
American Airlines has ordered 16 Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner. Deliveries were delayed by aircraft design and assembly issues, but began to be delivered in 2015. 16 788s are on order (plus 26 787-9s and options for more). Seating configuration is 28 Business Class, 48 Main Cabin Extra and 150 Main Cabin. Typical range would be JFK and HKG or JNB.
With a typical capacity of 242 passengers and a range of 7,355 nautical miles (13,621 km), the -8 is the base model of the 787 family and was the first to enter service in 2011.[257] With a length of 186 feet (57 m) and a wingspan of 197 feet (60 m), it is the third Boeing widebody after the 747SP and the 777-200LR wider than its length. The 787-8 is targeted to replace the Boeing 767-200ER and -300ER, as well as expand into new non-stop markets where larger planes would not be economically viable. Link to full Wikipedia article
Inside American Airlines Newest Boeing 787 Dreamliner
The Dallas Morning News
The Dallas Morning News
Configuration: C28 W48 Y150. #1 of 16 787-8s and 26 787-9s on order (total 42 787s including 787-9s and options for another 58).
Currently active: 17
N800AN, N801AC, N802AN, N803AL, N804AN, N805AN, N806AA, N807AA, N808AN, N809AA, N810AN, N811AB, N812AA, N813AN, N814AA, N815AA, N816AA.
Upcoming deliveries (type, estimated date):
N820AL (789, 22SEP16), N821AN (789, 12OCT16), ZB448 (789, 28OCT16), ZB449 (789, 15DEC16), ZB450 (789, 11JAN17), ZB451 (789, 27JAN17), ZA918 (788, 06FEB17), ZA919 (788, 16MAR17), ZA920 (788, 30MAR17), ZB452 (789, 17MAY17), ZB453 (789, 23MAY17), ZB454 (789, 16JUN17), ZB455 (789, 27JUL17), ZB456 (789, 21AUG17).
Please see AA publicly announces initial Boeing 787 / 788 routes 11 Feb 2015 for announced route and inaugural flights information.
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PR News Wire: American Airlines Welcomes First Dreamliner
(Post #186 by JonNYC in the archived thread has details for the 787-9.)
Originally Posted by American Airlines
Boeing 787s
We have plans to acquire 42 state-of-the-art 787(-8) Dreamliners, which are currently scheduled to be delivered starting in late 2014
We have plans to acquire 42 state-of-the-art 787(-8) Dreamliners, which are currently scheduled to be delivered starting in late 2014
Dallas Morning News (30 Jan 2015): American expects to accept 12 Boeing 787-8s in 2015.
JonNYC depicts what the J cabin layout is likely here in the deliveries thread.
Bloomberg (27 Mar 2015 - see post #144 from tom911) says ships 3 and 4 are parked "in the Mojave desert" until a seats shortage is sorted out.
some final tweaks, incorporating details gleaned from photos:
roadwarrior84 shares some interior photos he found online, herein the old thread.
The obsolete thread is ARCHIVE: AA 787 Orders / Delays / Changes / Delivery Dates, 2012 and later (consolidated).
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AA's first Boeing 787 / 787-8 arv. Jan 2015; discussion, deliveries
Feb 4, 2015, 11:26 am
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I don't really have a theory, per se-- could be regulatory/paperwork, technical etc and/or as described above. It -did- show as "active" when it was delivered and doesn't now, but maybe that's all part of it as well.
For sure there are some folks surprised by the delay in it's introduction into international flights, several months off. But, I'm sure we'll know more very shortly.
The first 2 overseas routes have been decided and are firm at this point.
For sure there are some folks surprised by the delay in it's introduction into international flights, several months off. But, I'm sure we'll know more very shortly.
The first 2 overseas routes have been decided and are firm at this point.
Feb 4, 2015, 12:09 pm
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I don't really have a theory, per se-- could be regulatory/paperwork, technical etc and/or as described above. It -did- show as "active" when it was delivered and doesn't now, but maybe that's all part of it as well.
For sure there are some folks surprised by the delay in it's introduction into international flights, several months off. But, I'm sure we'll know more very shortly.
The first 2 overseas routes have been decided and are firm at this point.
For sure there are some folks surprised by the delay in it's introduction into international flights, several months off. But, I'm sure we'll know more very shortly.
The first 2 overseas routes have been decided and are firm at this point.
Feb 4, 2015, 1:19 pm
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Feb 4, 2015, 2:05 pm
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My guess of Asia is based on comments by American's CFO Derek Kerr found here. According to the fleet plan, there will be six Dreamliners on the property by the end of Q2, making DFW/ORD-Asia doable. http://leehamnews.com/2014/06/19/ame...-peak-banking/
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Feb 4, 2015, 2:16 pm
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Doug Parker, when giving his delivery speech for the 787, greatly mocked United and Smeisek. Expect AA's first 787 route to be a big middle finger to UA.
You might be onto something here. If you really want to know which hub is going to get the 787s look to AA's latest actions and statements regarding expansions into certain areas of the world.
My guess of Asia is based on comments by American's CFO Derek Kerr found here. According to the fleet plan, there will be six Dreamliners on the property by the end of Q2, making DFW/ORD-Asia doable. http://leehamnews.com/2014/06/19/ame...-peak-banking/
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Feb 4, 2015, 2:32 pm
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Doug Parker, when giving his delivery speech for the 787, greatly mocked United and Smeisek. Expect AA's first 787 route to be a big middle finger to UA.
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Feb 4, 2015, 2:41 pm
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I think the hard product alone on AA's Dreamliner is a middle finger to United. United's Dreamliner has a laughably embarrassing interior that belongs in the 1990s. While American's new J class looks rather a bit grey, the mood lighting should solve this. Combined with the walk-up bar, American's Dreamliner blows United's out of the water. I think I know where you are going at with the Dreamliner's first routes. $misek better have something up his sleeve to compete with this.
And since quite obviously one of these two inaugural 787 routes is to Asia, AA is still far inferior to almost every single one of it's Asian-flagged competitors (albeit, yes, with connection involved.)
Let's not get carried away, IMHO.
Feb 4, 2015, 2:49 pm
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Ah you're right Jon, just getting a bit carried away. Bad memories of United is what has me optimistic about American's feature, even with Parker at the helm.
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With great respect, I personally think you are overstating each and every point here-- greatly. Again, with respect and all, but, I don't see this AA 787 with it's new seats as ANY kind of "great game-changer" in any way, shape or form.
And since quite obviously one of these two inaugural 787 routes is to Asia, AA is still far inferior to almost every single one of it's Asian-flagged competitors (albeit, yes, with connection involved.)
Let's not get carried away, IMHO.
And since quite obviously one of these two inaugural 787 routes is to Asia, AA is still far inferior to almost every single one of it's Asian-flagged competitors (albeit, yes, with connection involved.)
Let's not get carried away, IMHO.
CX most certainly did have better food than AA and the young asian flight crews put a high emphasis on service. The Last AA intl flight i was on, half the FAs were not wearing the proper uniforms and boasting apfa lanyards (which is against airline policy). Needless to say i reported those jack***** to the station manager so i'm sure they'll be in for a nice surprise.
Feb 4, 2015, 4:46 pm
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Fair enough!! And thanks for taking my take on it in the spirit in which it was intended. I think 787 is cool, but I also think that novelty wears off very quickly, to a large degree. I flew A380 F on 2 different carriers this weekend (EK and TG) (as well as F on CX and JL on the same trip) and paid almost zero attention to the A380 factor when selecting the flights, whereas when the A380 was newer I was super-excited to fly it. I doubt 787's "thrill" even has that much left in it.
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Fair enough!! And thanks for taking my take on it in the spirit in which it was intended. I think 787 is cool, but I also think that novelty wears off very quickly, to a large degree. I flew A380 F on 2 different carriers this weekend (EK and TG) (as well as F on CX and JL on the same trip) and paid almost zero attention to the A380 factor when selecting the flights, whereas when the A380 was newer I was super-excited to fly it. I doubt 787's "thrill" even has that much left in it.
Feb 10, 2015, 9:59 pm
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Back to the 787-8, ZA818 American Airlines 787-8 N801AC made its 2nd B2 - 2nd Boeing test flight - on Tuesday. After a couple of customer flights the second AA 787 will be on it's way to DFW.
here is a link to the latest picture of N801AC in flight.
http://kpae.blogspot.com
here is a link to the latest picture of N801AC in flight.
http://kpae.blogspot.com
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Back to the 787-8, ZA818 American Airlines 787-8 N801AC made its 2nd B2 flight on Tuesday. After a couple of customer flights the second AA 787 will be on it's way to DFW.
here is a link to the latest picture of N801AC in flight.
http://kpae.blogspot.com
here is a link to the latest picture of N801AC in flight.
http://kpae.blogspot.com
