FLY AA 77W with less taxes!
If you pick a city to start from that has lower taxes like LUX, AMS, BRU, CPH that connects in lhr you can try out the american airlines Boeing 777-300ER (77W) business class for a good price. Here is what I plan on booking with a layover in london and a stopover in new york, I will prob make the stop over in new york longer but this is as far out as I can book right now.
Is there a better business class product I can book for late may 2014? Luftansa business using united miles does not seem to open up till closer to departure but I am interested in the fra-mco direct business class. I was also thinking of flying the finnair business class AMS-HEL-NYC-MCO for 50K american miles but it does not seem to let me book two? anyone know why that is, can I book 2 back to back. Also thought of aer lingus business from dub-bos but have not seen availablility on united, have seen economy availability. I already booked a economy direct flight on virgin from mco-london for 16500 miles + $97. So roundtrips are out for me. BA 419 LUX - LHR May 20, 2014 06:55 PM - 7:15 PM Business Plane Type : 319 AA 107 LHR - JFK May 21, 2014 05:00 PM - 08:00 PM Business Plane Type : 77W AA 1917 JFK - MCO May 22, 2014 03:20 PM - 06:15 PM First Plane Type : 757 Flight Subtotal 50,000 miles + $136.60 45000 miles with citi aa cc(10% back) http://thepointsguy.com/2013/04/flig...class-gru-jfk/ |
That is not hardly a new concept to cut the taxes. I have read about this same concept at least three times in past week.
But that being said, enjoy your flight. Oh, the lounge in LUX is a nice little lounge. Not great, but a good place to spend an hour or two. |
Before you get all crazy about Lufthansa business class, you might want to check out Lucky's post about a recent trip, which seems to indicate that his generally enthusiastic reviews about Lufthansa should be limited to what's in front of the first-class door: http://boardingarea.com/onemileatati...n-eight-seats/. But, his thoughts suggest a boost for your alternative plans to fly Aer Lingus.
An airline's performance in one area is not a guarantee of great performance across the board. |
Originally Posted by Gamecock
(Post 21005134)
That is not hardly a new concept to cut the taxes. I have read about this same concept at least three times in past week.
But that being said, enjoy your flight. Oh, the lounge in LUX is a nice little lounge. Not great, but a good place to spend an hour or two. |
Originally Posted by lwildernorva
(Post 21005673)
Before you get all crazy about Lufthansa business class, you might want to check out Lucky's post about a recent trip, which seems to indicate that his generally enthusiastic reviews about Lufthansa should be limited to what's in front of the first-class door: http://boardingarea.com/onemileatati...n-eight-seats/. But, his thoughts suggest a boost for your alternative plans to fly Aer Lingus.
An airline's performance in one area is not a guarantee of great performance across the board. |
Originally Posted by lwildernorva
(Post 21005673)
Before you get all crazy about Lufthansa business class, you might want to check out Lucky's post about a recent trip, which seems to indicate that his generally enthusiastic reviews about Lufthansa should be limited to what's in front of the first-class door: http://boardingarea.com/onemileatati...n-eight-seats/. But, his thoughts suggest a boost for your alternative plans to fly Aer Lingus.
An airline's performance in one area is not a guarantee of great performance across the board. |
LH has a new Business class, iirc, but it's far from fully deployed. The LH Business class I flew in last month DFW-FRA in an A330 compared poorly with AA's NGBC, in terms of hard and soft product. Count me as among the very unenthused. (80d from BA 62A due to BA's late arrival and departure forcing me to miss my originally scheduled flight to VCE and the lack of available seats ex-LHR and LGW for two more days incited me to check available seats elsewhere and requesting reaccommodoation.)
Originally Posted by lwildernorva
(Post 21005673)
Before you get all crazy about Lufthansa business class, you might want to check out Lucky's post about a recent trip, which seems to indicate that his generally enthusiastic reviews about Lufthansa should be limited to what's in front of the first-class door: http://boardingarea.com/onemileatati...n-eight-seats/. But, his thoughts suggest a boost for your alternative plans to fly Aer Lingus.
An airline's performance in one area is not a guarantee of great performance across the board. Generally, if you are flying international Business class, you will be able to use the airline's (or alliance's) available Business lounges, in accordance with each airline's / alliance's rules. If BA or oneworld airline operates a lounge in LUX, you will be able to use it, and at LHR the Admirals Club (or BA, or CX lounges for that matter), and again at JFK the Admirals Club after you process formalities and go back landside. There is an extensive Help Desk thread that deals with AA-related lounge access, easily found from the FAQ. Threads detailing other ways of avoiding excessive taxes and fees, etc. are also quite common; some of the bloggers actually glean their information from Flyertalk.
Originally Posted by drdrew450
(Post 21005761)
so if I am flying business class, I can visit the lounge in lux, london, and nyc for no extra charge? Is it just the lounge of the airplane I am flying? I have never flown international business, I have flown domestic first but hardly the same thing.
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Originally Posted by drdrew450
(Post 21003380)
Here is what I plan on booking with a layover in london...
That's a good way to enjoy the 77W but you haven't exactly discovered fire. |
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Originally Posted by drdrew450
(Post 21003380)
Here is what I plan on booking with a layover in london...
That's a good way to enjoy the 77W but you haven't exactly discovered fire. |
Originally Posted by 3Cforme
(Post 21006339)
By fare rules, that is not a layover in London, it is a connection in London, at less than 24 hours. That distinction is important in trying to avoid UK Air Passenger Duty, which, in Business LHR-JFK, would be significant.
That's a good way to enjoy the 77W but you haven't exactly discovered fire. |
I suppose not being hit by the UK passenger tax is better than being hit by BA's fuel surcharge on the inbound flight from the European city. As for LH's business, as noted the new seats are only on the new 748i and can't be found on its A380s nor much else of the widebody fleet, so we're stuck with the horrid old product. In my mind, it's the second or third worst business seat in the sky after either UA's sardine can back/front facing faux pas and those on US's 767 international planes.
Yes, LH's F is a fine product, on the ground and in the air. I've done it many times and enjoyed the limo rides out to the plane at FRA, very ego enhancing. But I'd rather endure LH in the back -- which unfortunately I have -- than spend the extra money or upgrade vouchers to endure the current business product. |
Originally Posted by BlissWorld
(Post 21006093)
There is absolutely NO NEED to read any bloggers' posts when all the resources are right here on FT, in the trip report forum (minus the ones who send you to their blogs :rolleyes:)
I don't know if you've seen his "encyclopedia of trip reports" but it's pretty amazing. The same goes for other bloggers like Gary (View from the Wing). It's quite a thing to say that there's no need to read bloggers' posts, considering so many people do read the blogs and appreciate their content. |
lots of talk about the lh product, I was interested in it mostly because It is one of the few direct flights from orlando to europe. Anyone know when the business class can be booked on united site, a few months out only?
----------------- Would you take this united flight over the aa 77W in my original post? This is the 777-200 configuration with two classes, lie flat seats. Pros: less cash needed, 1 less leg, could be next to my wife, 77W looks quite separated which would be better if I was flying alone Cons: Houston is somewhat out of the way, no stopovers? 5000 more miles needed Not sure how good this business product is compared to the 77W. 50,000 Miles and $59.60 10:10 a.m. Wed., May. 28, 2014 Amsterdam, Netherlands (AMS) 1:50 p.m. Wed., May. 28, 2014 Houston, TX (IAH - Intercontinental) Flight: UA59 Aircraft: Boeing 777-200 Change Planes. Connect time in Houston, TX (IAH - Intercontinental) is 1 hour 50 minutes. 3:40 p.m. Wed., May. 28, 2014 Houston, TX (IAH - Intercontinental) 7:05 p.m. Wed., May. 28, 2014 Orlando, FL (MCO) Travel Time: 14 hr 55 mn There is also a 767-400ER flying BRU-EWR-MCO, Are these good united business seats? |
Originally Posted by Shareholder
(Post 21006585)
I suppose not being hit by the UK passenger tax is better than being hit by BA's fuel surcharge on the inbound flight from the European city. As for LH's business, as noted the new seats are only on the new 748i and can't be found on its A380s nor much else of the widebody fleet, so we're stuck with the horrid old product. In my mind, it's the second or third worst business seat in the sky after either UA's sardine can back/front facing faux pas and those on US's 767 international planes.
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