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oneworld / AA Explorer award with AA Miles (discuss, questions) [ENDED 8 APR 2014]
N.B. new oneworld/AA Explorer awards are no longer available as of the end of the day on April 7th, 2014.
Existing awards will be honored.
This thread is ONLY to inquire or add about existing oneworld Explorer awards; to comment on the loss of this booking option, please follow the discussion on:
Oneworld Explorer Awards Eliminated -- Effective Immediately [8 Apr 2014]
See the first post, below, for the rules that prevailed through 7 April 2014 and apply to those who booked Explorer awards prior to the end of these useful award tickets.
oneworld / AA Explorer award with AA Miles (discuss, questions) [ENDED 8 APR 2014]
#361
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,731
Hi,
If I have an open jaws stopover as part of an explorer award, which city counts for the "no more than 1 stopover per city" rule- the arrival city or the departure city?
For example, if I try to book the following as part of an explorer award:
HKG-ORD-MSN (open jaws stopover) ORD-MCO-ORD(stopover)-HEL
would the second stopover in ORD be allowed after the 1st stopover between MSN and ORD?
Thanks!
If I have an open jaws stopover as part of an explorer award, which city counts for the "no more than 1 stopover per city" rule- the arrival city or the departure city?
For example, if I try to book the following as part of an explorer award:
HKG-ORD-MSN (open jaws stopover) ORD-MCO-ORD(stopover)-HEL
would the second stopover in ORD be allowed after the 1st stopover between MSN and ORD?
Thanks!
In your case, your second stop in ORD should be fine, as you only ever depart from it once as a stopover.
#362
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 385
Hi,
If I have an open jaws stopover as part of an explorer award, which city counts for the "no more than 1 stopover per city" rule- the arrival city or the departure city?
For example, if I try to book the following as part of an explorer award:
HKG-ORD-MSN (open jaws stopover) ORD-MCO-ORD(stopover)-HEL
would the second stopover in ORD be allowed after the 1st stopover between MSN and ORD?
Thanks!
If I have an open jaws stopover as part of an explorer award, which city counts for the "no more than 1 stopover per city" rule- the arrival city or the departure city?
For example, if I try to book the following as part of an explorer award:
HKG-ORD-MSN (open jaws stopover) ORD-MCO-ORD(stopover)-HEL
would the second stopover in ORD be allowed after the 1st stopover between MSN and ORD?
Thanks!
#363
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: LAX
Posts: 36
I'm assuming you have to book the entire trip at once, correct?
Has anyone had problems with award availability for long trips? Particularly summer. I'm thinking about doing:
2 weeks Spain
2 weeks Italy
2 weeks Bali
LAX-JFK(C)-MAD(S)-GRX(S)-MAD(C)-FCO(S)// --- //LHR-HKG(C or S)-DPS(S)-HKG(C)-LAX
24876 miles (25000 award ticket - 150,000 Business)
First part on Iberia/AA and the second on Cathay Pacific.
I would start either mid May or mid June (more likely) and end at the end of June/July. With a 330 day award availability I would be able to book the last flight on Aug 30 if I left in June (Aug 3 if I left in May). What do you think the likelihood of scoring business award tickets (I would settle for coach if I needed to) would be?
I know that's prime traveling time and I worry that the first legs of the trip would get taken before the last parts become available.
Has anyone had problems with award availability for long trips? Particularly summer. I'm thinking about doing:
2 weeks Spain
2 weeks Italy
2 weeks Bali
LAX-JFK(C)-MAD(S)-GRX(S)-MAD(C)-FCO(S)// --- //LHR-HKG(C or S)-DPS(S)-HKG(C)-LAX
24876 miles (25000 award ticket - 150,000 Business)
First part on Iberia/AA and the second on Cathay Pacific.
I would start either mid May or mid June (more likely) and end at the end of June/July. With a 330 day award availability I would be able to book the last flight on Aug 30 if I left in June (Aug 3 if I left in May). What do you think the likelihood of scoring business award tickets (I would settle for coach if I needed to) would be?
I know that's prime traveling time and I worry that the first legs of the trip would get taken before the last parts become available.
#364
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New York
Programs: AA EXP, SPG PLT, FPC PLT, Hyatt Gold Passport Diamond
Posts: 264
Extend Award Travel to longer distance
I am wondering if anyone has ever booked an Oneworld Explorer ticket for a shorter distance, say 35,000 BIS ticket, then decides to extend traveling to a longer distance, say 50,000 BIS ticket, before starting of travel? I understand this will involve re-ticketing. If so, can one preserve the seats under original shorter distance ticket?
#365
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVPG 75K
Posts: 2,574
I am wondering if anyone has ever booked an Oneworld Explorer ticket for a shorter distance, say 35,000 BIS ticket, then decides to extend traveling to a longer distance, say 50,000 BIS ticket, before starting of travel? I understand this will involve re-ticketing. If so, can one preserve the seats under original shorter distance ticket?
#366
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New York
Programs: AA EXP, SPG PLT, FPC PLT, Hyatt Gold Passport Diamond
Posts: 264
I am not sure I follow you. Do you mean seats under original ticket cannot be preserved? And we need new seats available (for those booked already under original ticket) at the time of such change in order to get ticket re-issued to extend to a higher BIS ticket?
#367
Join Date: Dec 2007
Programs: AA Gold, UA Silver, Marriott Platinum, Hertz PC
Posts: 323
The seats on the original ticket will not be preserved. They may drop back into inventory for you to reserve again on your new ticket or they might not.
#368
Join Date: Jun 2007
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, AA Exec Plat
Posts: 715
Not sure this has worked for anyone else, but I was able to downgrade my biz seat to econ without paying the voluntary downgrade fee. First 2 times I called, CSR said I had to pay, but the 3rd time they just made the change.
#370
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 36
RTW trip & Video
hi, wife & I are planning similar RTW trip for next spring. Any suggestions on getting started. We have miles on AA allready. also, how did you do the video?
We plan to stop in Japan, China, Thailand, India, Turkey, France & back to DC.
We plan to stop in Japan, China, Thailand, India, Turkey, France & back to DC.
#371
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New York
Programs: AA EXP, SPG PLT, FPC PLT, Hyatt Gold Passport Diamond
Posts: 264
As part of my RTW trip Planning using Explorer Award, I am trying to find a flight from GiG- EZE. EF search Oneworld availability shows LAN(JJ) has two direct flights. I understand JJ is really TAM flight. So do these two JJ operated flights eligible for Oneworld Explorer Award?
#373
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVPG 75K
Posts: 2,574
As part of my RTW trip Planning using Explorer Award, I am trying to find a flight from GiG- EZE. EF search Oneworld availability shows LAN(JJ) has two direct flights. I understand JJ is really TAM flight. So do these two JJ operated flights eligible for Oneworld Explorer Award?
#374
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 164
So the fiance and I are looking to book our honeymoon. Our initial idea was to go to Bora Bora in first or business class (we live in NYC). It looks like we'd be paying 125,000 AAdvantage miles for only 13,000 miles flown in business class.
That of course got my mind going, because for only 25,000 more AAdvantage miles, we could do another trip, flying 12,000 additional miles in business class. Seems like a no-brainer to me
So here's my proposed itinerary, looking for advice, suggestions, affirmation...
Use BA Avios, or pay for a 1 way ticket from JFK-MIA in November 2012 (I'm doing this because I need to keep the entire trip under 25,000 miles, and based on NYC being my true origination and final destination city, I need to make sure my trip is compliant with the rules)
AA Explorer ticket:
November 2012 (pre thanksgiving trip): MIA-GIG (Stopover) -SCL (Stopover) - JFK (Stopover)
June 2013 (Honeymoon): JFK -LAX - PPT (Stopover) - LAX - JFK - CMH
The reason I tagged CMH onto the end of my itinerary (and this is probably where I'm looking for the most feedback), is because I couldn't make JFK my final destination (because I'm stopping over between my November trip and my June honeymoon). My concern was that if I picked BOS/PHL/ORD or some other nearby international airport, they would check my bags the whole way through (and we don't intend to take the final leg of the trip).
All in all, the complete itinerary should be 24,708 miles. An extra 11,000 miles flown (basically a free trip to south america in November) in business class all for an extra 25,000 AAdvantage miles per person.
I think everything looks good to me, but I was hoping for some outside eyes.
-JP
That of course got my mind going, because for only 25,000 more AAdvantage miles, we could do another trip, flying 12,000 additional miles in business class. Seems like a no-brainer to me
So here's my proposed itinerary, looking for advice, suggestions, affirmation...
Use BA Avios, or pay for a 1 way ticket from JFK-MIA in November 2012 (I'm doing this because I need to keep the entire trip under 25,000 miles, and based on NYC being my true origination and final destination city, I need to make sure my trip is compliant with the rules)
AA Explorer ticket:
November 2012 (pre thanksgiving trip): MIA-GIG (Stopover) -SCL (Stopover) - JFK (Stopover)
June 2013 (Honeymoon): JFK -LAX - PPT (Stopover) - LAX - JFK - CMH
The reason I tagged CMH onto the end of my itinerary (and this is probably where I'm looking for the most feedback), is because I couldn't make JFK my final destination (because I'm stopping over between my November trip and my June honeymoon). My concern was that if I picked BOS/PHL/ORD or some other nearby international airport, they would check my bags the whole way through (and we don't intend to take the final leg of the trip).
All in all, the complete itinerary should be 24,708 miles. An extra 11,000 miles flown (basically a free trip to south america in November) in business class all for an extra 25,000 AAdvantage miles per person.
I think everything looks good to me, but I was hoping for some outside eyes.
-JP
#375
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Not here; there!
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 29,531
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Sorry, it's back to the drawing board for you: no oneworld carrier flies from LAX to PPT, and the only non-oneworld carrier you can use on an Explorer is Jetstar on flights that are Qantas codeshares.
And if you check bags in at LAX (after Customs) on an LAX-JFK (connection) - CMH ticket, AA will check your bags through to CMH. If, however, your ticket read PPT-LAX-JFK//LGA-CMH, well ....
Sorry, it's back to the drawing board for you: no oneworld carrier flies from LAX to PPT, and the only non-oneworld carrier you can use on an Explorer is Jetstar on flights that are Qantas codeshares.
And if you check bags in at LAX (after Customs) on an LAX-JFK (connection) - CMH ticket, AA will check your bags through to CMH. If, however, your ticket read PPT-LAX-JFK//LGA-CMH, well ....
Last edited by guv1976; Apr 27, 2012 at 7:57 pm