View Poll Results: If AA Citi Exec MC purchases no longer count toward Million Miler status after 2012:
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will definitely keep my card - other benefits worth it
12
7.45%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will probably keep my card
11
6.83%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I'm not sure yet if I will keep or cancel my card
23
14.29%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will probably cancel my card
26
16.15%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will definitely cancel my card - other benefits not worth it
46
28.57%
Obtained card after Nov 30, 2011: I'm already ineligible for this benefit anyways
8
4.97%
I'm not a cardholder: I would enroll if this benefit were offered for new cardholders
22
13.66%
I'm not a cardholder: I would not enroll even if this benefit were offered for new cardholders
3
1.86%
I'm not a cardholder: I just want to see the poll results
10
6.21%
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Archive: AA Citibank Executive / AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard (& MM poll)
Jul 18, 2011, 10:06 am
#46
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: AA EXP, AA LT Gold, SPG Plat 75
Posts: 889
The Amex is also a great card for families who don't all have the same primary air carrier. My brother and I (along with two others) got the Amex Plat for this reason. I flew AA, he flew DL and the others (until the merger) flew NW. So for a total of $675 we each got access to the lounge of our choice airline.
This new card would be alright if the annual fee was halved or if the EQM came earlier in the spending. As someone who usually approaches 40k BIS miles each year, the 10k would be nice, but I don't know I'd pay that kind of money for it.
I feel as though there should be a discount for elite members, not just out of self interest (since I am one) but because most of the benefits are already included for those members. All we're getting is the lounge access (already have that via Amex), the concierge service and the extra EQM. But I already wait in the short lines, get free checked bags, board at the beginning and have no mileage cap on my other Citi cards. This card basically gives you GLD minus the upgrades and second free checked bag.
However, if people report back here that the concierge service is head and shoulders above Amex then maybe it would be worth it. Hopefully Amex decides to up their game by allowing the transfer of MR points to AAdvantage miles.
This new card would be alright if the annual fee was halved or if the EQM came earlier in the spending. As someone who usually approaches 40k BIS miles each year, the 10k would be nice, but I don't know I'd pay that kind of money for it.
I feel as though there should be a discount for elite members, not just out of self interest (since I am one) but because most of the benefits are already included for those members. All we're getting is the lounge access (already have that via Amex), the concierge service and the extra EQM. But I already wait in the short lines, get free checked bags, board at the beginning and have no mileage cap on my other Citi cards. This card basically gives you GLD minus the upgrades and second free checked bag.
However, if people report back here that the concierge service is head and shoulders above Amex then maybe it would be worth it. Hopefully Amex decides to up their game by allowing the transfer of MR points to AAdvantage miles.
Jul 18, 2011, 10:18 am
#47
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: WAS
Posts: 1,626
The Amex is also a great card for families who don't all have the same primary air carrier. My brother and I (along with two others) got the Amex Plat for this reason. I flew AA, he flew DL and the others (until the merger) flew NW. So for a total of $675 we each got access to the lounge of our choice airline.
This new card would be alright if the annual fee was halved or if the EQM came earlier in the spending. As someone who usually approaches 40k BIS miles each year, the 10k would be nice, but I don't know I'd pay that kind of money for it.
I feel as though there should be a discount for elite members, not just out of self interest (since I am one) but because most of the benefits are already included for those members. All we're getting is the lounge access (already have that via Amex), the concierge service and the extra EQM. But I already wait in the short lines, get free checked bags, board at the beginning and have no mileage cap on my other Citi cards. This card basically gives you GLD minus the upgrades and second free checked bag.
However, if people report back here that the concierge service is head and shoulders above Amex then maybe it would be worth it. Hopefully Amex decides to up their game by allowing the transfer of MR points to AAdvantage miles.
This new card would be alright if the annual fee was halved or if the EQM came earlier in the spending. As someone who usually approaches 40k BIS miles each year, the 10k would be nice, but I don't know I'd pay that kind of money for it.
I feel as though there should be a discount for elite members, not just out of self interest (since I am one) but because most of the benefits are already included for those members. All we're getting is the lounge access (already have that via Amex), the concierge service and the extra EQM. But I already wait in the short lines, get free checked bags, board at the beginning and have no mileage cap on my other Citi cards. This card basically gives you GLD minus the upgrades and second free checked bag.
However, if people report back here that the concierge service is head and shoulders above Amex then maybe it would be worth it. Hopefully Amex decides to up their game by allowing the transfer of MR points to AAdvantage miles.
Jul 18, 2011, 10:32 am
#48
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott Plat
Posts: 699
"With the Citi ExecutiveSM / AAdvantage® World EliteTM MasterCard® credit card, you and up to eight additional people in your reservation can each save up to $50 on round-trip travel (baggage charge amount is subject to change)."
How can you have that many people on an AA reservation
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How can you have that many people on an AA reservation
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Jul 18, 2011, 10:34 am
#49
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: DFW
Programs: AS, BA, AA
Posts: 3,670
Link on the AA website: https://www.aa.com/i18n/urls/citiexecutive.jsp
I fail to see the connection given that the perk is EQMs, not MM miles.
Obviously you haven't been following that thread, if you think that a 'connection' is required. 
This should be more grist for the http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...r-program.html thread
Jul 18, 2011, 10:39 am
#50
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 117
I would wonder about the concierge too. I would think, at least on the surface, that based on length of time doing this and relationships forged, Amex should have a legs up on restaurant reservations, etc. There have been a few times where I couldn't get myself into a restaurant that Amex squeezed me into, particularly hot spots in big cities. Or helped make special requests at hotels, particularly those within FHR. Though its status has declined, I think Amex Plat calling anyone may still get more respect than Citi. In terms of responsiveness, personal attention and so on, that would be easier to match.
Jul 18, 2011, 10:40 am
#51
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 467
If they're going to top it with $450 in annual fees, the least they could do is add an EMV chip to it. Why should I pay more when I can get a card that's more secure for a lower annual fee? 
Jul 18, 2011, 10:41 am
#52
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: LAX
Programs: AA EXP 1.5MM, Asiana Club Silver, KE Morning Calm, Hyatt Platinum, Amtrak Select
Posts: 7,161
My bad, I didn't see page 3. ^
But it'd be nice if the EMV functionality was promoted more visibly to stand out from other cards; hard to tell if the benefit isn't shown, especially when the main target for this card seems to be for Citi's and AA's globe-trotting clientele.
Adding an option for built-in PayPass would be nice to rival US Bank FlexPerks card.
But it'd be nice if the EMV functionality was promoted more visibly to stand out from other cards; hard to tell if the benefit isn't shown, especially when the main target for this card seems to be for Citi's and AA's globe-trotting clientele.
Adding an option for built-in PayPass would be nice to rival US Bank FlexPerks card.
Last edited by kebosabi; Jul 18, 2011 at 10:53 am
Jul 18, 2011, 11:22 am
#53
Join Date: Mar 2007
Programs: AA 1MM
Posts: 3,182
True, which is why I like Amex better as it stands. However, keep in mind that with Amex you pay for additional cardholders, whereas with this you don't appear to. That said, three additional cardholders are only $175, so it's less than $60/yr for each to have their own AA/DL club access.
Jul 18, 2011, 11:25 am
#54
Join Date: Mar 2007
Programs: AA 1MM
Posts: 3,182
I would wonder about the concierge too. I would think, at least on the surface, that based on length of time doing this and relationships forged, Amex should have a legs up on restaurant reservations, etc. There have been a few times where I couldn't get myself into a restaurant that Amex squeezed me into, particularly hot spots in big cities. Or helped make special requests at hotels, particularly those within FHR. Though its status has declined, I think Amex Plat calling anyone may still get more respect than Citi. In terms of responsiveness, personal attention and so on, that would be easier to match.
Jul 18, 2011, 11:28 am
#55
Join Date: Mar 2007
Programs: AA 1MM
Posts: 3,182
Either way, that really isn't why I keep Amex; it's the AC access (already discussed why Amex is better for me on that front) and the consumer protection (if I have to buy something where I see some risk).
Were the AC to drop Amex now (as CO did), then I'd probably switch.
Jul 18, 2011, 11:34 am
#56
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 308
True, which is why I like Amex better as it stands. However, keep in mind that with Amex you pay for additional cardholders, whereas with this you don't appear to. That said, three additional cardholders are only $175, so it's less than $60/yr for each to have their own AA/DL club access.
Jul 18, 2011, 11:38 am
#57
Join Date: Mar 2007
Programs: AA 1MM
Posts: 3,182
Right, forgot about that! That reminds me, have to look into actually activating that...
I think that, in general, the ONLY reason to get this card is if you are consistently 10k away from the next elite tier up. Non-elites probably travel infrequently enough that the benefits don't justify the costs and there aren't enough benefits that elites aren't already entitled to to justify the cost.
Now, if it were like DL, where you had multiple opportunities to get bonus EQM and could get 10k immediately and another 30k by spending 60k (would have to combine work and personal purchases on one card), then it's a better looking deal.
I don't advocate AA offering that generous a bonus, so as not to overfill the elite ranks too much. Then again I don't really care about a bunch of PLTs who fly 15k/yr, as they won't provide much competition for anything and won't even understand the benefits. I would advocate that no more than, say, 10k of the bonus EQM may count towards EXP (since you're talking about a lot of SWUs floating around, which impact upgrade award availability for everyone).
I think that, in general, the ONLY reason to get this card is if you are consistently 10k away from the next elite tier up. Non-elites probably travel infrequently enough that the benefits don't justify the costs and there aren't enough benefits that elites aren't already entitled to to justify the cost.
Now, if it were like DL, where you had multiple opportunities to get bonus EQM and could get 10k immediately and another 30k by spending 60k (would have to combine work and personal purchases on one card), then it's a better looking deal.
I don't advocate AA offering that generous a bonus, so as not to overfill the elite ranks too much. Then again I don't really care about a bunch of PLTs who fly 15k/yr, as they won't provide much competition for anything and won't even understand the benefits. I would advocate that no more than, say, 10k of the bonus EQM may count towards EXP (since you're talking about a lot of SWUs floating around, which impact upgrade award availability for everyone).
Last edited by JumboD; Jul 18, 2011 at 11:49 am
Jul 18, 2011, 11:47 am
#58
Join Date: May 2008
Location: San Francisco, where else?
Programs: EXP,EX-CK 2.5mm, now lifetime Platinum, ex-UA1K, Marriott- Platinum, Hertz 5*
Posts: 991
I'd bet this card will eventually have some pretty hefty signup bonuses (ala Chase's 100K limited time offer [now expired] for the BA card) down the road given the high annual charge and the low signup bonus now re: past Citi offers.
Also AC "access" is very different from AC membership and believe me, the AAngels I've spoken with know the difference...they value the AC members much more than the Amex Platinums...at least the AAngels I've asked about this. I doubt they are going to do proactive rebooking / trip disruption IRROPS work for someone using this card vs full-fledged members.
Also AC "access" is very different from AC membership and believe me, the AAngels I've spoken with know the difference...they value the AC members much more than the Amex Platinums...at least the AAngels I've asked about this. I doubt they are going to do proactive rebooking / trip disruption IRROPS work for someone using this card vs full-fledged members.
Jul 18, 2011, 12:03 pm
#59
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: LAX
Programs: AA EXP 1.5MM, Asiana Club Silver, KE Morning Calm, Hyatt Platinum, Amtrak Select
Posts: 7,161
Also AC "access" is very different from AC membership and believe me, the AAngels I've spoken with know the difference...they value the AC members much more than the Amex Platinums...at least the AAngels I've asked about this. I doubt they are going to do proactive rebooking / trip disruption IRROPS work for someone using this card vs full-fledged members.
Jul 18, 2011, 12:09 pm
#60
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: AA Plat, Marriott Plat
Posts: 736
I don't advocate AA offering that generous a bonus, so as not to overfill the elite ranks too much. Then again I don't really care about a bunch of PLTs who fly 15k/yr, as they won't provide much competition for anything and won't even understand the benefits. I would advocate that no more than, say, 10k of the bonus EQM may count towards EXP (since you're talking about a lot of SWUs floating around, which impact upgrade award availability for everyone).