View Poll Results: If AA Citi Exec MC purchases no longer count toward Million Miler status after 2012:
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will definitely keep my card - other benefits worth it
12
7.45%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will probably keep my card
11
6.83%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I'm not sure yet if I will keep or cancel my card
23
14.29%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will probably cancel my card
26
16.15%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will definitely cancel my card - other benefits not worth it
46
28.57%
Obtained card after Nov 30, 2011: I'm already ineligible for this benefit anyways
8
4.97%
I'm not a cardholder: I would enroll if this benefit were offered for new cardholders
22
13.66%
I'm not a cardholder: I would not enroll even if this benefit were offered for new cardholders
3
1.86%
I'm not a cardholder: I just want to see the poll results
10
6.21%
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Archive: AA Citibank Executive / AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard (& MM poll)
Mar 25, 2012, 2:12 pm
#1501
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,905
Besides, why pay 3% forex fee when you can have cards that charges 0%? Unless you are willing to be the sucker to pay the fee just to add a few more miles to your AA account. i.e. for every 100 miles earned via foreign transactions, you are paying $3 for that privilege - that is 3 penny per mile cost! Meanwhile you can use a host of Chase cards to earn UA or BA miles (or hotel points) with 0% forex fee. And if your main spending outside US is hotel and dining, you would earn TWO miles instead of one, with the Chase cards...
I wonder when Citi would wake up and start to improve the AAdvantage cards earning in category spend, as well as offering a 0% forex card.
Mar 25, 2012, 2:27 pm
#1502
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,750
Because of the forex fee, the CHIP and PIN discussion on this card is kind of silly to me especially when this is not even the real CHIP that requires a PIN, but a convenient payment RFID chip... That is my point.
Also talk about thinking out of box, dont wed oneself to one single program and put all one's earning into one single program. It is better to have meaningful balances across alliances, even the Skypesos sometimes can prove to be useful!
Mar 26, 2012, 5:46 pm
#1503
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: MIA
Programs: AA PLAT 2.9MM, Amex Plat, CO Silv, HH Gld, SPG Gld, Hyatt Plat, IC Amb, and... Starbucks Gold (wow!)
Posts: 54
Mar 26, 2012, 7:53 pm
#1504
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: in the vicinity of SFO
Programs: AA 2MM (LT-PLT, PPro for this year)
Posts: 19,781
It is good this works for you because your forex fee is reimbursed. However I can bet you $1 for doughnut that is not the majority of people here.
Because of the forex fee, the CHIP and PIN discussion on this card is kind of silly to me especially when this is not even the real CHIP that requires a PIN, but a convenient payment RFID chip... That is my point.
Because of the forex fee, the CHIP and PIN discussion on this card is kind of silly to me especially when this is not even the real CHIP that requires a PIN, but a convenient payment RFID chip... That is my point.
2) It's not RFID; it's a older-style smartcard with contacts.
Assuming the other benefits (mainly lifetime miles through December, and AC membership) aren't worth whatever the difference is; for me, I just need to save $15 in forex fees (difference between $350 AC membership renewal and $85) to be worth it by your math; I paid about $110 in forex fees last year, all unreimbursed.
Mar 26, 2012, 8:29 pm
#1505
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: LGA
Programs: HHonors Diamond, AA PLT
Posts: 195
Of course there's a chance. I suggested to the AAdvantage program that going forward they and Citi are going to need to do a better job of targetting benefits to the typical customer for this type of card, who is an AA frequent flyer who doesn't need most of the benefits other than perhaps the added eqms -and while they may need lounge access usually can get it cheaper because of their status than what it costs with this card. Some of the ideas I passed on include:
* Linking the amount of credit card related eqms that could be earned to the amount of miles flown on AA in any given qualifying year.
* Extending the luggage and priority boarding benefits to tickets purchased for others by the cardholder.
* Allowing AA Elites the same reduced fees for purchasing AC access for spouse or s.o. that they would otherwise get.
* Linking the amount of credit card related eqms that could be earned to the amount of miles flown on AA in any given qualifying year.
* Extending the luggage and priority boarding benefits to tickets purchased for others by the cardholder.
* Allowing AA Elites the same reduced fees for purchasing AC access for spouse or s.o. that they would otherwise get.
Mar 28, 2012, 9:20 am
#1506
Join Date: May 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP, LT Gold
Posts: 3,146
Got my 10K EQM bonus for 2012 today! A very pleasant surprise! 
Mar 28, 2012, 11:18 am
#1507
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Tokyo
Programs: AA-EXP Hilton Honors-PLT Admirals Club
Posts: 105
Chase UA
I see chase has a new product that offers a lot of the same benefits but also includes 1.5 miles for every dollars spent on everyday purchases. I wonder if citi will eventually match
Mar 28, 2012, 11:19 am
#1508
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Upper Sternistan
Posts: 10,031
Mar 28, 2012, 9:01 pm
#1509
Join Date: May 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP, LT Gold
Posts: 3,146
Indeed.
Mar 28, 2012, 9:17 pm
#1510
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: AA PLT, HH Gold, SPG/Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,091
The PP card is gone now, the United Club card has taken its place (1.5 miles/$ on everyday purchases). The AF is lower (450 vs 395), you get elite status with Hyatt and Avis, along with some other benefits. Obviously if you can choose between UAL or AA, the new club card would be the better deal.
Mar 29, 2012, 5:39 am
#1511
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: South Park, Metropolis
Programs: AA LT PLT 3MM, Hilton/Marriott/SPG/Club Carlson GLD, IHG PLT
Posts: 4,607
I have both cards
The PP card is gone now, the United Club card has taken its place (1.5 miles/$ on everyday purchases). The AF is lower (450 vs 395), you get elite status with Hyatt and Avis, along with some other benefits. Obviously if you can choose between UAL or AA, the new club card would be the better deal.
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Mar 29, 2012, 10:47 am
#1512
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Asia Pac
Programs: AA UA DL AS CXDM JL NH Hilton Hyatt Marriott SPG IHG
Posts: 545
The PP card is gone now, the United Club card has taken its place (1.5 miles/$ on everyday purchases). The AF is lower (450 vs 395), you get elite status with Hyatt and Avis, along with some other benefits. Obviously if you can choose between UAL or AA, the new club card would be the better deal.
Mar 29, 2012, 8:48 pm
#1513
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: MCO- AA EXP-GOLD 4 life
Programs: 2MM by 2013 AA
Posts: 76
I'am loving the card, not only no forex fee, but the MM ......
Already really close to 2MM that is lifetime PLAT, and in top of that thanks to the 10k bonus EQM I'm EXP for the first time, been able to call and have someone answer the phone right away its priceless, booking RTW tickets with EXP agents, its much better, I used to call before and most of the times they did not had any idea what I was talking about, (had to go get a supervisor)
also the conversion from foreign currency to USD its much better, I have used it in many places, and always get a better exchange rate, example (china, HK, Spain, France, UK, Peru)
also the customer service its a little bit better, I still call the same 1800 number, but somehow they are aware its a black card, and they try to be nicer and friendlier.
those are my 2 cents.
Already really close to 2MM that is lifetime PLAT, and in top of that thanks to the 10k bonus EQM I'm EXP for the first time, been able to call and have someone answer the phone right away its priceless, booking RTW tickets with EXP agents, its much better, I used to call before and most of the times they did not had any idea what I was talking about, (had to go get a supervisor)
also the conversion from foreign currency to USD its much better, I have used it in many places, and always get a better exchange rate, example (china, HK, Spain, France, UK, Peru)
also the customer service its a little bit better, I still call the same 1800 number, but somehow they are aware its a black card, and they try to be nicer and friendlier.
those are my 2 cents.
Mar 30, 2012, 5:43 am
#1514
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Chicagoland, IL, USA
Programs: WN CP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 14,184
Mar 30, 2012, 9:49 am
#1515
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: MCO- AA EXP-GOLD 4 life
Programs: 2MM by 2013 AA
Posts: 76
its only a couple of pennies, but it does make a difference, especially if you are in europe, where there is always a fee to exchange USD to Euros, and it changes every day, and at the end of your trip you are not left over with money that you have no use for....