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May 20, 2005, 8:17 am
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Originally Posted by jabrams72
Was this with a stopover? I think, although I may be wrong on this that if this transit was <24 hours, they would count as co-terminals, but if you are stopping for more than 24, then they're technically different.
May 20, 2005, 8:21 am
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Originally Posted by magic111
It is my impression that if the open-jaw is the origin and destination stopovers are not allowed in either.
May 20, 2005, 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by oiRRio
Would typing my posts more s-l-o-w-l-y help...
I now understand what you're trying to say. Here's an example:
DFW (start of itinerary) - LAX (stopover) - SYD (stopover) - PER (stopover) - MEL (stopover) - HKG (stopover) - LAX (end of itinerary)
You're trying to say that because LAX is one end of the open jaw, having a stopover in LAX earlier in the itinerary would result in there being 2 stopovers in LAX, which is not allowed.
Before the recent posts in this thread, I had not seen anything in the official rules or in any flyertalk thread which said that having an open jaw consisting of the beginning and ending cities would cause the passenger to have a stopover in the ending city. (I'm talking about the rules and threads that specifically apply to oneworld awards using AA miles.)
But I am going to take your word for it and add this restriction to the first post of this thread.
Thanks for pointing out this issue.
May 20, 2005, 10:37 am
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In this thread titled Help! AA OW Award Flagged as Invalid the following comment was posted
btw thank you for the original post
The note in the record was that you cannot stopover or transit the origin (which I know) or destination (which is news to me).
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May 20, 2005, 10:47 am
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Originally Posted by magic111
In this thread titled Help! AA OW Award Flagged as Invalid the following comment was posted btw thank you for the original post
May 20, 2005, 11:09 am
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Okay just to cross the tees and dot all the eyes.
The destination if an open-jaw from the origination can't have a stop or a transit.
At least according to the thread above
The destination if an open-jaw from the origination can't have a stop or a transit.
At least according to the thread above
May 20, 2005, 12:35 pm
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The original itinerary in that thread had just one connection through ORD (plus two stopovers). Eliminating the open jaw presumably resulted in the itinerary having two connections through ORD (plus one stopover). So, the connection/open jaw limitation was not an issue in that thread.
If 2 connections and 1 stopover are allowed for any city except the originating city and if we assume that the final city is part of an open jaw, then why wouldn't 2 connections be allowed through the final city? The 1 allowed stopover (but none of the allowed connections) for that city would be used by the open jaw. Correct? If not, then I'm real confused....
If 2 connections and 1 stopover are allowed for any city except the originating city and if we assume that the final city is part of an open jaw, then why wouldn't 2 connections be allowed through the final city? The 1 allowed stopover (but none of the allowed connections) for that city would be used by the open jaw. Correct? If not, then I'm real confused....
May 22, 2005, 11:24 pm
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Do all the flights have to be on One World metal or is a codeshare OK? Like TLV-ZRH (cs) -JFK.
May 22, 2005, 11:30 pm
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USING A BUSINESS CLASS AWARD ON FLIGHTS THAT DO NOT HAVE A BUSINESS CLASS CABIN
This section applies only to a person who is using a business class award.
The person is entitled to first class travel on American Airlines for a flight that does not have a business class cabin, if there is "Z" availability for that flight. If "Z" is unavailable but "T" is available, then the person must travel in economy class.
For a flight on a oneworld airline other than American Airlines, the person must travel in economy class (assuming that there is "X" availability).
This section applies only to a person who is using a business class award.
The person is entitled to first class travel on American Airlines for a flight that does not have a business class cabin, if there is "Z" availability for that flight. If "Z" is unavailable but "T" is available, then the person must travel in economy class.
For a flight on a oneworld airline other than American Airlines, the person must travel in economy class (assuming that there is "X" availability).
So if I do a One World Business Class with IB and BA only, I will actually only get to be in economy class only?
May 22, 2005, 11:39 pm
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No, that clause applies where there is no business class. AFAIK IB and BA have business class on the flights you are considering.
May 22, 2005, 11:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
No, that clause applies where there is no business class. AFAIK IB and BA have business class on the flights you are considering.
So is there no business class when there are two classes of service?
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May 23, 2005, 9:43 am
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Originally Posted by Austinrunner
Thanks. The real problem wasn't explained very well in that thread. But I now see it.
May 23, 2005, 1:05 pm
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Originally Posted by myefre
So is there no business class when there are two classes of service?
May 23, 2005, 1:51 pm
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Previously, I posted that an open jaw might not count toward the 16-segment limit...
However, number_6, in another thread, reminded me that:
So, the itinerary I booked actually has 15 segments (with one multi-flight segment) and an open jaw.
I stand corrected. Austinrunner's OP looks correct to me.
Originally Posted by LRD
... I have just e-ticketed a 16-segment itinerary which includes MEL-LST/HBA-SYD.
A segment is a single flight number.
I stand corrected. Austinrunner's OP looks correct to me.