AA or CX to HKG
Jan 23, 2015, 5:04 pm
#16
Join Date: Mar 2011
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That's right.....right?
Jan 23, 2015, 5:21 pm
#17
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Programs: AA EXP, Hilton Gold
Posts: 653
CX PE gives 1.5 EQP but only 110%EQM so your comparing calculations are a little off
Jan 23, 2015, 7:25 pm
#18
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SEA
Programs: AA EXP (2.5MM), Hilton Gold, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 4,859
Double check your fare code to ensure you're in the Asia3 promo rules
Jan 23, 2015, 9:57 pm
#19
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas, TX
Programs: AA Concierge Key, SPG Plat, Hyatt Diam
Posts: 509
Slightly off topic but I flew CX round trip in first this month to HKG (outbound from JFK and inbound to ORD). They were the most amazing flights ever and I have flown first in BA (sucked), Etihad (pretty nice), and Emirates (too blingy).
Jan 25, 2015, 6:11 pm
#21
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: ORD
Posts: 1,844
This data point means nothing... but that's never stop me from posting before.
Over the last few days, if I talked with an AAgent that seemed to know their "stuff", I'd ask about the PALL order list:
JonNYC: "-B- fares (and -Y-) are at the top of the EXP hierarchy for upgrade priority."
Granted, a phone AAgent is NOT a GA, JonNYC would never steer us in the wrong direction and the Y/B thing makes a lot of sense. BUT, the AAgents said the Y/B thing is not the case, it's all about status and time. Blab.. blab, blab.
One AAgents said it USED to be that way, but it has changed.
OK. My posts on FT are littered with me bashing the inconsistent and wrong information regularly given out by phone AAgents on the EXP desk.
So.. we're back to, either the AAgents are great actors, they don't know or I need to get a life.
My next project will be EF's C Alerts, C availability and the UG Waiting List. Because if what:
are reporting is true... it's a frighting breakdown. Almost like a "scandal" type software glitch.
Over the last few days, if I talked with an AAgent that seemed to know their "stuff", I'd ask about the PALL order list:
JonNYC: "-B- fares (and -Y-) are at the top of the EXP hierarchy for upgrade priority."
Granted, a phone AAgent is NOT a GA, JonNYC would never steer us in the wrong direction and the Y/B thing makes a lot of sense. BUT, the AAgents said the Y/B thing is not the case, it's all about status and time. Blab.. blab, blab.
One AAgents said it USED to be that way, but it has changed.
OK. My posts on FT are littered with me bashing the inconsistent and wrong information regularly given out by phone AAgents on the EXP desk.
So.. we're back to, either the AAgents are great actors, they don't know or I need to get a life.
My next project will be EF's C Alerts, C availability and the UG Waiting List. Because if what:
Jan 25, 2015, 6:38 pm
#22
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Jan 25, 2015, 6:58 pm
#23
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: DTW
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No question, CX. Service from the flight crew in CX PE will rival what you get on AA in J just with domestic F type seats and plastic cups for drinks. I guess if you value a flat seat and fine china (admittely I do not) take your chances with your AA upgrade. That being said, I am one of those flyer talkers that do not understand the 100+ page thread discussing upgrade chances on AA 137/138 when CX offers a substantially superior product from several US gateways.
Jan 25, 2015, 7:25 pm
#24
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Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 25
Well last time I booked B fare about a month out and was #1 on the upgrade list so I'm tempted to say Y/B makes a difference. The upgrade list was 50 deep and two were upgraded.
So I went ahead and booked AA this weekend. I have always flown CX Except my last trip. The deal breaker was the extra miles (16 bonus + LGA to DFW miles x 2 + bonus on the AA credit card) - about 25k total. Not too shabby.
So I went ahead and booked AA this weekend. I have always flown CX Except my last trip. The deal breaker was the extra miles (16 bonus + LGA to DFW miles x 2 + bonus on the AA credit card) - about 25k total. Not too shabby.
Jan 25, 2015, 7:36 pm
#25
Join Date: Nov 2013
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No question, CX. Service from the flight crew in CX PE will rival what you get on AA in J just with domestic F type seats and plastic cups for drinks. I guess if you value a flat seat and fine china (admittely I do not) take your chances with your AA upgrade. That being said, I am one of those flyer talkers that do not understand the 100+ page thread discussing upgrade chances on AA 137/138 when CX offers a substantially superior product from several US gateways.
Jan 25, 2015, 10:21 pm
#26
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: ORD
Posts: 1,844
JonNYC: That's all I've been hoping for, the official, on AA.com, language that states, explicitly, that Y/B is prioritized.
I've been searching, posting my references, but I lack the experience you have.
But having said that, you sort of, a little bit, kept us hanging a couple of times.
Here, when you wrote, and I asked:
and more recently:
So.. if we, with your help, can lock this up, put a pin in the Y/B thing, as easily as a link to AA.com, let’s do it, please.
I've been searching, posting my references, but I lack the experience you have.
But having said that, you sort of, a little bit, kept us hanging a couple of times.
Here, when you wrote, and I asked:
If it sounded derogatory, I didn't mean it to be. That's just been a factor in my personal experience, and nothing they bothers me. #18 on UG list cleared. Not another soul was taken off the list. If it were a J->F UG, then it stands to reason that more than one pax would clear off the UG list since a J seat would open and #1 would clear into J.
But what were your five or six other explanations?
But what were your five or six other explanations?
Last edited by zznoname; Jan 26, 2015 at 7:49 am
Jan 25, 2015, 10:49 pm
#27
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: SEATTLE, WA USA
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My personal opinion fly CX and consider nothing else! ^
Book something now as best you can even if on AA as I bet CX will open seats but in the end the queen of the skies for OW is CX
Book something now as best you can even if on AA as I bet CX will open seats but in the end the queen of the skies for OW is CX
Jan 26, 2015, 3:26 am
#28
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Jan 26, 2015, 7:29 am
#29
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: ORD
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Found it!
Yeah!
https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/e...emwideupgrades
At the bottom: "Systemwide upgrade FAQs" > "Learn more about the upgrade process" > "How is the airport upgrade standby list prioritized?":
"The airport upgrade standby list is prioritized by AAdvantage elite status level first, then your original upgrade request date/time, with fares booked in Y and B first, followed by all other fares. The type of upgrade requested does not have any influence on how your request is prioritized."
Don't know why I'm celebrating, I'm flying Q Fare.
Yeah!
https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/e...emwideupgrades
At the bottom: "Systemwide upgrade FAQs" > "Learn more about the upgrade process" > "How is the airport upgrade standby list prioritized?":
"The airport upgrade standby list is prioritized by AAdvantage elite status level first, then your original upgrade request date/time, with fares booked in Y and B first, followed by all other fares. The type of upgrade requested does not have any influence on how your request is prioritized."
Don't know why I'm celebrating, I'm flying Q Fare.
Last edited by zznoname; Jan 26, 2015 at 7:44 am
Jan 26, 2015, 7:34 am
#30
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: New York
Programs: AAdvantage EP
Posts: 368
JTK, did you booked farecode B? I did this in Dec and was upgraded both times and was # 1 on the upgrade list both times.
Prior to that flight, I always booked CX PE but have never been upgraded even with empty seats in business. I have no Asia miles nor Marco Polo status, just AA EXP.
Prior to that flight, I always booked CX PE but have never been upgraded even with empty seats in business. I have no Asia miles nor Marco Polo status, just AA EXP.
Last edited by JTK; Jan 26, 2015 at 7:37 am Reason: Additional info