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FitTraveler May 11, 2012 6:52 pm

Seating confirmed: 3-4-3 on the 777 / 77W ... boooooooo
 
AA -- please stop your continued leadership in the race to the bottom in coach service and comfort standards. None of your marketing wizardry will convince your loyal flyers that this is a good thing, especially on long haul routes!

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The new 777-323ER coach seat information from American Airlines on Facebook, thanks to a recent post by imafaan on 28 May 2012:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...09456401_n.jpg
Main Cabin Extra and Main Cabin / Economy - 30 MCE and 220 Coach seats
(if quick math is OK)

SeatGuru Seat Chart for American Airlines Boeing 777-323ER / 77W: http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ame...777-300_ER.php

AA Announces Initial Boeing 777-300ER / "77W" Schedule (as of 13 Dec 2012) (contains seat charts, photographs of all cabin classes)

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NonRevKid May 11, 2012 7:00 pm

But the loyal flyers will be in MCE. I'd give up 1 inch of width in order to get 4 inches of legroom. I think that this is a good deal for loyal flyers.

Science Goy May 11, 2012 7:08 pm


Originally Posted by NonRevKid (Post 18558941)
But the loyal flyers will be in MCE. I'd give up 1 inch of width in order to get 4 inches of legroom. I think that this is a good deal for loyal flyers.

MCE will be 3-3-3, so the same width as the current configuration, no?

Still, even for loyal flyers, the prospect of having to choose a middle MCE vs. an aisle/window Y is definitely :rolleyes:

Globehopper May 11, 2012 7:15 pm


Originally Posted by FitTraveler (Post 18558913)
AA -- please stop your continued leadership in the race to the bottom in coach service and comfort standards. None of your marketing wizardry will convince your loyal flyers that this is a good thing, especially on long haul routes!


This is grinding.

The only good that can come of this is on less crowded flights, there's the possibility of one empty seat in between a window and aisle.

But as someone who's enjoyed 5 seats across to myself, this is a most unwelcome development if true.

84fiero May 11, 2012 8:00 pm

We did NZ's 3-4-3 configuration on their 777-300 last month AKL-LAX. Didn't care for the tight width, narrow aisles, and just more crowded feel to it. Felt like the lav-to-pax ratio was worse with everyone packed in, but I don't know if that is actually true compared to 9-across lav situation. In any case, I won't voluntarily fly 10-across in a 777 again if I can help it. I'll stick to UA's 9-across, thanks anyway AA.

closetasfan May 11, 2012 8:42 pm

yeah, this is a real downer. I've had window and aisle to myself before on 2-5-2 and it was great, but I wonder how crowded this 10 across is going to be.

ricktoronto May 11, 2012 8:59 pm

Pay for, use miles to upgrade or use an award and fly in J or find an airline with $200 fares and 40" pitch and 24" wide seats.

Everyone wants everything and not to pay for it.

hessinger May 11, 2012 9:28 pm

Interesting revelation, do we know the pitch and width of the seats?

Clipper110A May 11, 2012 9:31 pm


Originally Posted by hessinger (Post 18559430)
Interesting revelation, do we know the pitch and width of the seats?

Whatever it is, I am thinking pitch and width not gonna be pretty...

unfrequentflyer May 11, 2012 9:36 pm

Remember the 300 lb guy who file suit against Wendy's for not making bigger seats? I wonder if he will sue AA for not letting him squeeze into a Y seat.

Science Goy May 11, 2012 9:37 pm


Originally Posted by ricktoronto (Post 18559338)
Pay for, use miles to upgrade or use an award and fly in J or find an airline with $200 fares and 40" pitch and 24" wide seats.

Everyone wants everything and not to pay for it.

No need to draw a caricature. Nobody's demanding $200 fares+24" width; in fact I'd happily pay a 10% premium for 9-across instead of 10-across, but since the vast majority of customers don't share my opinion the market won't provide what I want.

hessinger May 11, 2012 9:40 pm


Originally Posted by Clipper110A (Post 18559436)
Whatever it is, I am thinking pitch and width not gonna be pretty...

Maybe they will sell us the Main Cabin BedŽ, not much different the NZ's SkyCouch. :rolleyes:

fattieonboard May 11, 2012 10:04 pm

Does anyone know if AA will introduce a Person of Size policy?

Clipper110A May 11, 2012 10:09 pm


Originally Posted by hessinger (Post 18559472)
Maybe they will sell us the Main Cabin BedŽ, not much different the NZ's SkyCouch. :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by fattieonboard (Post 18559557)
Does anyone know if AA will introduce a Person of Size policy?


At 6 ft 3, 200 pound relatively gym toned body, I am a person of size on 3-4-3 777 and will need the mAAin cabin bed hahahaha

777-300 for AA not gonna be flying routes like JAL 747SR flying HND-ITM,,,

QueerEyeForDelta May 11, 2012 10:20 pm


Originally Posted by Clipper110A (Post 18559578)
6 ft 3, 200 pound relatively gym toned body...

WOOF... come on up front, the upgrade's on me! :)

AA has done a really good job (from what we've seen) with the F and J cabin re-design. Sadly they missed the opportunity to introduce a true premium economy product, especially in light of the higher density 3-4-3 Y cabin configuration.


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