Feb 18, 2013, 1:46 pm
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We do not have an inkling of what the new AA-US merged Frequent Flyer Program (FFP) will like. Nonetheless, as a topic dear to FlyerTalkers' hearts, people want to discuss the various parameters, motivations and possible outcomes for the new FFP. Please speculate and discuss those various possibilities in this thread. As we hear what the FFP will look like from the new management / management team, we will then open new threads.
And if you are an AA FFP, don't forget to check the US Airways Dividend Miles Forum to see what came about after the reverse takeover of US Airways by America West under the direction of Doug Parker.
Thank you, the American AAdvantage Forum Moderation Team
We do not have an inkling of what the new AA-US merged Frequent Flyer Program (FFP) will like. Nonetheless, as a topic dear to FlyerTalkers' hearts, people want to discuss the various parameters, motivations and possible outcomes for the new FFP. Please speculate and discuss those various possibilities in this thread. As we hear what the FFP will look like from the new management / management team, we will then open new threads.
And if you are an AA FFP, don't forget to check the US Airways Dividend Miles Forum to see what came about after the reverse takeover of US Airways by America West under the direction of Doug Parker.
Thank you, the American AAdvantage Forum Moderation Team
ARCHIVE: Speculation and discussion of what the new merged FFP might look like (conso
Oct 22, 2014, 3:11 pm
#301
Join Date: May 2007
Location: ORD, DEL
Programs: AA (Plt Pro; 1.5 MM)
Posts: 6,185
Oct 22, 2014, 3:23 pm
#302
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: los angeles, calif.
Programs: Alaska Airlines Gold MVP
Posts: 7,170
That's Southeast Asia, though. South Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Maldives) must route via Europe/Middle East with the exception of Sri Lanka, which can go via North or Southeast Asia.
Oct 22, 2014, 3:36 pm
#303
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,631
What 'AAdvantage remains AAdvantage' most likely means is that there will be few really major changes. Revenue-based earning would be an example of a major change.
Oct 22, 2014, 3:41 pm
#304
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,631
United uses awful nonstandard terminology under which Southeast Asia is called South Asia and the Indian subcontinent (South Asia) is called Central Asia. (I forget what they call central Asia.) The AAdvantage names for the regions (Indian subcontinent / Middle East, and Asia Zone 2) are at least unambiguous.
Last edited by SeeBuyFly; Oct 22, 2014 at 3:48 pm
Oct 22, 2014, 4:53 pm
#305
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: ORD
Posts: 986
I'm excited to hear they will not be murdering the program--I think we were all a little worried that might happen.
Oct 22, 2014, 5:53 pm
#306
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: BOS
Programs: AA EXP, DL PM, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 2,028
The changes (without knowing any details other than what's posted here) sound "positive," but you bet your ... I'm booking a speculative award trip for the two of us on Cathay F right now. Tons of availability on BOS-HKG 330 days out. I want to believe that AA learned their lesson when they made overnight changes a few months back, but you really never, never know.
Oct 22, 2014, 9:45 pm
#307
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Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Programs: OWEmerald; STARGold; BonvoyPlat; IHGPlat/Amb; HiltonGold; A|ClubPat; AirMilesPlat
Posts: 38,186
If the New AAdvantage is indeed being born March 1st 2015, I would suggest any AA elites who anticipate ending the year with 70K EQMs/EQPs consider a transcon MR to pick up another 5K since I cannot see the program not having four tiers to satisfy those US elites who have earned 75k+ but under 100K to get Platinum Preferred.
Otherwise I don't expect too much of a radical recasting of the AAdvantage we know today. Having requalified for ExecPlat already, I received 8 eVIPs so this element of the program won't be changing (though I suppose AA/UA could put a minimum fare on their eligibility for overseas flights as UA and DL do). And I suspect that the NAmerican upgrading program will be AA's requiring 500s to be used by non-ExecPlats. To assuage US elites AA would likely give them a bunch of 500s to start the year off with, since AA elites have been able to earn them throughout the past year.
Just my speculation proven right or wrong by the end of the month or early next month I suppose.
Otherwise I don't expect too much of a radical recasting of the AAdvantage we know today. Having requalified for ExecPlat already, I received 8 eVIPs so this element of the program won't be changing (though I suppose AA/UA could put a minimum fare on their eligibility for overseas flights as UA and DL do). And I suspect that the NAmerican upgrading program will be AA's requiring 500s to be used by non-ExecPlats. To assuage US elites AA would likely give them a bunch of 500s to start the year off with, since AA elites have been able to earn them throughout the past year.
Just my speculation proven right or wrong by the end of the month or early next month I suppose.
Oct 22, 2014, 10:28 pm
#308
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: NYC: UA 1K, DL Platinum, AAirpass, Avis PC
Posts: 4,599
The real award chart changes already happened. That was the April event where AA was aligned with US 5 tier.
Next is about elite program rules, overall fees, and earning adjustments.
No 'revenue based' now doesn't mean they won't do it the following year.
Next is about elite program rules, overall fees, and earning adjustments.
No 'revenue based' now doesn't mean they won't do it the following year.
Oct 23, 2014, 6:45 am
#309
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Programs: AA P-Pro, Chase SP, SPG Gold
Posts: 556
Citibank
I wonder if the answer doesn't lie with Citibank? They re-branded their cards now have four names/levels:
Gold
Platinum
Platinum Select
Executive
I wonder if the answer doesn't lie with Citibank? They re-branded their cards now have four names/levels:
Gold
Platinum
Platinum Select
Executive
Oct 23, 2014, 7:05 am
#310
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: SJC/VCE
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I'm not sure how that would relate to the AAdvantage program since those level of cards have no relation to someone's elite status (e.g., someone w/no status can get an Executive Citibank card; I'm an EXP & have a Citi Gold card)
Oct 23, 2014, 7:12 am
#311
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Programs: AA P-Pro, Chase SP, SPG Gold
Posts: 556
Of course (card does not equate status) but the timing and the naming are oddly coincidental.
Oct 23, 2014, 4:30 pm
#312
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: NYC
Programs: AA 2MM, Bonvoy LTT, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 14,636
I don't think citi's move have any relations. It only adds to the confusion if the AA program levels are named similar.
Oct 23, 2014, 8:39 pm
#313
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Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Programs: OWEmerald; STARGold; BonvoyPlat; IHGPlat/Amb; HiltonGold; A|ClubPat; AirMilesPlat
Posts: 38,186
I have no information, but given the tenor of the times, I think it is unrealistic to expect that there will be any reductions in the miles charged. (Although possibly the transatlantic mileage to South Asia could be increased to even things out!)
What 'AAdvantage remains AAdvantage' most likely means is that there will be few really major changes. Revenue-based earning would be an example of a major change.
What 'AAdvantage remains AAdvantage' most likely means is that there will be few really major changes. Revenue-based earning would be an example of a major change.
Oct 24, 2014, 7:29 am
#314
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,296
Although not every level has been available from Citi at all times, those four names are not anything new. I've had one Platinum Select and one Platinum Citi AAdvantage card since before the merger.
Last edited by DCAstudent; Oct 24, 2014 at 7:29 am Reason: grammar
Oct 24, 2014, 11:04 am
#315
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Is there actually a difference between "Platinum" and "Platinum Select"?