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Old Jan 6, 09, 12:39 am   #1
 
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LAX-LHR: F vs. J worth loss of EQM?

Here's my situation: I was lucky enough to find dates where I could get one of the following for LAX-LHR:

Cheap Y ticket ($650) + 50k miles + $700 co-pay for J + aprox. 10k EQM and 12.5k RDM

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My 55k miles + $1,700 for an additional 70k miles for an F seat and no EQM

I will certainly re-make GLD in '09 w/o the 10k, but might have a chance at PLT with them (but nothing is sure enough to know). Is that much time in 777 J vs. F justified considering I'm only out an additional $350 cash and 12.5k miles (RDM earned)?
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Old Jan 6, 09, 3:09 am   #2
 
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Cheap Y ticket ($650) + 50k miles + $700 co-pay for J + aprox. 10k EQM and 12.5k RDM

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My 55k miles + $1,700 for an additional 70k miles for an F seat and no EQM
Between the two, option 1.

LAX -> LHR in J is excellent, IMO.

In your case, less $ and earning substantial EQM/RDM. Easy decision if you ask me.
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Old Jan 6, 09, 3:33 am   #3
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50k miles + $700 co-pay
You should find someone willing to trade eVIPs with you. You'll get 2 eVIPs for a lot less than what you're willing to pony up for a mileage upgrade.
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Old Jan 6, 09, 9:58 am   #4
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+1. That's one of the benefits of being on FT, find some cheap EVIP's.
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Old Jan 6, 09, 10:36 pm   #5
 
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Does the lack of ability to sleep in the J seat, never having flown int'l F before and the fact that I realized i erred in my math and would actually only be out about $1,300 for enough miles to get the F award sway the general opinions? Or would you still opt for biz?
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Old Jan 6, 09, 10:58 pm   #6
 
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IMHO the main point you should consider is the likelihood of making PLT. If you think there's a good chance you should definitely go for it (and even think of an MR if you are going to be a bit short). PLT has huge advantages over GLD.

As fars as class: I will never bend over backwards to fly F over J (yes, it's nicer but to me not worth that much cash, miles or effort). F over Y is another story...

However, since the cost in this case comes very close I would say it's all about PLT.
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Old Jan 6, 09, 11:42 pm   #7
 
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IMHO the main point you should consider is the likelihood of making PLT. If you think there's a good chance you should definitely go for it (and even think of an MR if you are going to be a bit short). PLT has huge advantages over GLD.

As fars as class: I will never bend over backwards to fly F over J (yes, it's nicer but to me not worth that much cash, miles or effort). F over Y is another story...

However, since the cost in this case comes very close I would say it's all about PLT.
It's hard to say, since most of my travel is leisure, but you're right, that is the question to ask. As far as F vs. J, I would agree with you under 99% of circumstances. With the exception of a long overnight flight, three-class F, to me, is an ego flight. Having to sleep makes things different, though.
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Old Jan 7, 09, 1:01 am   #8
 
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Here's my situation: I was lucky enough to find dates where I could get one of the following for LAX-LHR:

Cheap Y ticket ($650) + 50k miles + $700 co-pay for J + aprox. 10k EQM and 12.5k RDM

Or:

My 55k miles + $1,700 for an additional 70k miles for an F seat and no EQM

I will certainly re-make GLD in '09 w/o the 10k, but might have a chance at PLT with them (but nothing is sure enough to know). Is that much time in 777 J vs. F justified considering I'm only out an additional $350 cash and 12.5k miles (RDM earned)?
Not sure if I fully understood, but, If you're paying for a Y ticket and getting 10K EQM's, would you not get 15K EQP's? If so, couldn't you get yourself on a Platinum Challenge and get Platinum immediately after the flight(s)?
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Old Jan 7, 09, 1:57 am   #9
 
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Not sure if I fully understood, but, If you're paying for a Y ticket and getting 10K EQM's, would you not get 15K EQP's? If so, couldn't you get yourself on a Platinum Challenge and get Platinum immediately after the flight(s)?
Y as a class of service, not a specific booking inventory. If I could get a true Y fare for $1,300 and then only spend 20k miles, I'd "brave" J across the continent and pond.
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Old Jan 7, 09, 5:47 am   #10
 
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It's hard to say, since most of my travel is leisure, but you're right, that is the question to ask. As far as F vs. J, I would agree with you under 99% of circumstances. With the exception of a long overnight flight, three-class F, to me, is an ego flight. Having to sleep makes things different, though.
You said you would "certainly requalify for GLD w/o this flight", so you must have another 25-30k EQMs planned. This would put at around 40k, and you still have the whole year to come up with a couple of trips for 10k...

On long hauls I sleep in J just as well as in F (plus on any flight > 9 hrs I take a sleeping pill anyway).

So again, to me, the main consideration would be that I really don't want to end the year with 40k EQMs.. and kicking myself
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Old Jan 7, 09, 7:55 am   #11
 
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You should find someone willing to trade eVIPs with you. You'll get 2 eVIPs for a lot less than what you're willing to pony up for a mileage upgrade.
You should also be honest and tell the OP that what you propose is strictly against the rules of the AAdvantage program.
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Old Jan 7, 09, 10:22 am   #12
 
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You should also be honest and tell the OP that what you propose is strictly against the rules of the AAdvantage program.
Ok, ok. The poster is looking for someone who will give them an eVIP for free, as a gift. Then, after a certain amount of time has passed (never said how much) the OP will come across an abundance of points in some other program and remember the generous FT'er who was so kind as to give him an eVIP.

There. Does that satisfy the lawyer in everyone?

AA allows eVIPs to be gifted to others. There is no requirement that the person who receives it for their status must use it themselves.
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