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The interplay between carryon bin space and charges for luggage will be interesting. As an elite, I'm now going to have to give more attention to being at the gate before boarding, under the assumption that elite boarding is the only way to guaranty my rollaboard a spot in the bin.
Will AA charge for over-sized "carry on" luggage that is gate checked?
UA management had already announced a 9 percent reduction in domestic capacity for the fall. And UA was the one that started the $25 second bag fee, so not sure how UA's team is sitting on their thumbs.
I agree. UA was actually the one being more proactive with AA the follower. Also, don't foget the $150 change fee that UA implemeted a few weeks ago that AA just matched this week.
to think southwest started this by charging for the third bag. they must be laughing as the legacies begin to push price conscious travelers into their arms. the airlines are not the only ones affected by todays economic situation and as they start charging more those, both individuals and businesses, will start looking at their costs and imho southwest stands to come out seriously on top.
anybody know what percentage of aa's routes overlap with wn.
Please, if Southwest were really that great and cheap all the time, then the legacies should have lost most leisure travelers' business a long time ago. Yet Southwest maintains load factors that are well below legacy carriers. Clearly some people don't like Southwest or else everyone will be flying them already.
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The thing I miss about Air Force One is they don't lose my luggage. - President George Bush Sr.
While I think that the new fee will impact the cabin stowage (and I do care about that), I disagree with your approach. I'm all in favor of having people pay for what they use, rather than having to subsidize it. This is in principle, of course, as the $15 doesn't really matter than much to me in reality.
They reduced prices and stopped serving food in Y; those that want food can buy it. They eliminated drinks in Y on international flights; those that want a drink can buy one. They added a fee for the second bag; want to check two bags- pay for it. This is just the same philosophy. If I don't check a bag, why should I pay for yours (you, in the general sense ).
Let's not try to make this appear any different than what it is. The airline industry in the US has become a pay-for-service proposition. It's not going to change. We can either accept it with a sigh or b$%@& and moan about it.
Cheers.
I agree with you on this.
Actually the buy-on-board model is one of the success stories of this decade. Turn a costly item into one that actually generates profit.
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The thing I miss about Air Force One is they don't lose my luggage. - President George Bush Sr.
It's great that they are charging for every single bag now, as it won't affect me for business travel, but some people might think twice when planning family vacations.
My mother-in-law is the reason these policies are created
Please, if Southwest were really that great and cheap all the time, then the legacies should have lost most leisure travelers' business a long time ago. Yet Southwest maintains load factors that are well below legacy carriers. Clearly some people don't like Southwest or else everyone will be flying them already.
Yet WN remains more profitable at lower LF! If they need to fill up their planes to 110% LF (ahem UA) to be profitable, they'd charge even less to boost traffic.
The reality is, they don't need to. Even more to their benefit, they have plenty of room to shift or reduce capacity while continuing to grow traffic.
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Will AA charge for over-sized "carry on" luggage that is gate checked?
My thought exactly.
So, how long will it take for the millions of non-elites to figure out how to beat the $15 (or $25 if it's the second bag) and bring the bag on board knowing it will likely be gate-checked and not pay the fee? Don't expect the FA's to collect it and risk getting into an arguement or the GA's who are under constant pressure to push back on time.
This is going to fun to watch from the comfort of my F seat.
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While I think that the new fee will impact the cabin stowage (and I do care about that), I disagree with your approach. I'm all in favor of having people pay for what they use, rather than having to subsidize it. This is in principle, of course, as the $15 doesn't really matter than much to me in reality.
They reduced prices and stopped serving food in Y; those that want food can buy it. They eliminated drinks in Y on international flights; those that want a drink can buy one. They added a fee for the second bag; want to check two bags- pay for it. This is just the same philosophy. If I don't check a bag, why should I pay for yours (you, in the general sense ).
Hey, why not charge to use the bathroom. Not everyone uses it. Why should I pay for it when I don't use it? Same thing for air sickness bag, they can sell them too. I don't use the reading light either.....
Like someone else said, AA is now like RyanAir and not a full service carrier.
Suppose someone boards late due to a late connecting flight and their regulation size carry-on doesn't fit? Are they going to get charged?
Please, if Southwest were really that great and cheap all the time, then the legacies should have lost most leisure travelers' business a long time ago. Yet Southwest maintains load factors that are well below legacy carriers. Clearly some people don't like Southwest or else everyone will be flying them already.
Regardless of what Southwest's load factors are, they have proven to be profitable flying with those load factors, so I'm not sure what your point is.
It's inarguable some people don't like Southwest, but it's pricing decisions like charging for the first bag (when Southwest doesn't even charge for the second bag!) and raising change fees to $150 (when Southwest doesn't even have change fees!) that will only make Southwest more popular. I don't think the money-losing legacies can really afford to cede any passengers to still profitable Southwest at this point ...
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