What if AA allowed everyone to carry on board only one personal item that fit under the seat unless you had a tag of some sort for your overhead bin item. They could calculate how many tags would be allowed on each type of plane. Give a tag to all elites, business/first passengers and the rest would be first come/first served at the check in counter. When they run out of tags for that flight everyone else has to check. Tags and checked bags all cost 15 dollars for non-business/elite flyers. No extra bags thru screening, noone trying to gate check stuff.
Ya Know This TSA and security delay arguement is starting to get tedious. In my last million miles i've seen maybe 6 people go thru security without a carryon. Now magically theres gonna be a big problem??? People are creatures of habit, they will pay the 15 bucks and get on with life, or choose some other carrier. Thinking everyone is going to stop checking bags (that they normally do) and jam evrything into one rollaboard (which they normally carry also) is just plain silly
You have no idea what you are talking about. People absolutely WILL carry on everything they normally would have checked. Wake up.
Ya Know This TSA and security delay arguement is starting to get tedious. In my last million miles i've seen maybe 6 people go thru security without a carryon. Now magically theres gonna be a big problem??? People are creatures of habit, they will pay the 15 bucks and get on with life, or choose some other carrier. Thinking everyone is going to stop checking bags (that they normally do) and jam evrything into one rollaboard (which they normally carry also) is just plain silly
I agree with the poster that the all hell breaking loose at the overhead bins is being somewhat over dramatized here at FT (although JFK, MIA-particularly MIA, and SJU are nothing like ORD or DFW in this respect, but the tale of two airlines is for another thread). The problem I see are the poor check in agents when they tell Ma and Pa Kettle and their two dirty, poorly behaved monsters (oh I mean't children) are going to pay $120 R/T to check their bags. Because Ma and Pa Kettle really don't read the newspaper about what's going on and are too concerned about Britney Spears and the two Davids on American Idol, and AA probably won't set something up in booking process to advise paxs before booking about the new fees.
You have no idea what you are talking about. People absolutely WILL carry on everything they normally would have checked. Wake up.
With the fees not yet in effect, and with no idea what your level of experience is with airports/security/AA (no profile info), I'm not sure how you can be so adamant.
Personally, I think there's going to be a bit of both. Here's the scenario I see playing out often enough:
Mr. Kettle arrives at the airport, already slightly perturbed at the cost of parking and the wait time of the bus ride from the remote parking lot. His anger meter is now at 10%.
Kettle, who's an infrequent traveler and will ultimately be in Group 6, attempts to check his bag at the counter, hears about the fee, scoffs, utters a few choice words to the "thieves and bandits" behind the counter, and tries to lug his suitcase through security. Mr Kettle's anger meter has reached 30%.
Security notices the size of the bag and turns him away with instructions to go back to the counter to check the bag. Kettle, now at anger level 50%, briskly walks to the counter and cuts in line to speak to the agent who initially told him about the fee, demanding service. Eventually, after the agent attempts to calm him down and make him wait until she's finished with the current customer, Kettle's bag is checked, his Visa charged $15, and he's promised the agent that he will be contacting AA corporate (who he refers to as "charlatans") to complain.
Mr. Kettle, who's anger meter is at 70%, reaches his gate after a second long wait through security, only to have been forced to throw away his shampoo which was 7oz.
Group 6 is finally called to board, but by the time Mr. Kettle reaches 13F on the MD80, there is no more room for his smaller roll-aboard in the overhead and it's too large to fit under his seat, so the FA instructs him that he will have to gate-check it. Kettle is now at 85% and climbing.
After everyone is seated, the Captain announces that the ATC has slowed the traffic pattern at ORD due to weather, so the plane will be pushing back and waiting approx 45mins before taking off.
Somewhere over Missouri, Mr. Kettle, having exceeded his anger limit, stands up and loudly berates an FA after being told that there is no more Jack Daniels.
With the fees not yet in effect, and with no idea what your level of experience is with airports/security/AA (no profile info), I'm not sure how you can be so adamant.
Personally, I think there's going to be a bit of both. Here's the scenario I see playing out often enough:
Mr. Kettle arrives at the airport, already slightly perturbed at the cost of parking and the wait time of the bus ride from the remote parking lot. His anger meter is now at 10%.
Kettle, who's an infrequent traveler and will ultimately be in Group 6, attempts to check his bag at the counter, hears about the fee, scoffs, utters a few choice words to the "thieves and bandits" behind the counter, and tries to lug his suitcase through security. Mr Kettle's anger meter has reached 30%.
Security notices the size of the bag and turns him away with instructions to go back to the counter to check the bag. Kettle, now at anger level 50%, briskly walks to the counter and cuts in line to speak to the agent who initially told him about the fee, demanding service. Eventually, after the agent attempts to calm him down and make him wait until she's finished with the current customer, Kettle's bag is checked, his Visa charged $15, and he's promised the agent that he will be contacting AA corporate (who he refers to as "charlatans") to complain.
Mr. Kettle, who's anger meter is at 70%, reaches his gate after a second long wait through security, only to have been forced to throw away his shampoo which was 7oz.
Group 6 is finally called to board, but by the time Mr. Kettle reaches 13F on the MD80, there is no more room for his smaller roll-aboard in the overhead and it's too large to fit under his seat, so the FA instructs him that he will have to gate-check it. Kettle is now at 85% and climbing.
After everyone is seated, the Captain announces that the ATC has slowed the traffic pattern at ORD due to weather, so the plane will be pushing back and waiting approx 45mins before taking off.
Somewhere over Missouri, Mr. Kettle, having exceeded his anger limit, stand up and loudly berates an FA after being told that there is no more Jack Daniels.
He is greeted at ORD by LEO's.
LOL. Poor old Mr Kettle. You should write scripts for movies. ROFL!!!!!
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Moderators, can you lock this thread? After all this is a forum for frequent travelers. Most of the comments in this thread are from well meaning casual travellers who object to a $15 fee.
Moderators, can you lock this thread? After all this is a forum for frequent travelers. Most of the comments in this thread are from well meaning casual travellers who object to a $15 fee.
Don't lock this thread. Many of us have family members and friends who fly and aren't elites on any airline. Many times they will come to us asking for advice on travel, since we know the ends and outs of the system better than they do (I swear Travel Agent is my night job). These fees directly affect them.
May 23 (Bloomberg) -- AMR Corp.'s American Airlines, UAL Corp.'s United Airlines and Delta Air Lines Inc. raised fares as much as $60 round trip to recoup record jet-fuel costs.
) are going to pay $120 R/T to check their bags. Because Ma and Pa Kettle really don't read the newspaper about what's going on and are too concerned about Britney Spears and the two Davids on American Idol, and AA probably won't set something up in booking process to advise paxs before booking about the new fees.
