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Originally Posted by UnitedSkies
Put another way, were Southwest to provide upgrades, premium cabins, international services, lounges, etc... all of which cost (and make) money for the legacies, I'm not necessarily sure that Southwest would be as successful.
Don't forget that a routing on WN from New York to London might look like this, since they have traditionally used point-to-point flying: JFK-YAW-GOH-RKV-DUB-LTN.
For AA to be profitable, yep, and I don't think anyone here disputes that.
We're just asking for honest price presentation. If they cAAn't get profitable without the first price presented being bait-and-switch for half the plane, maybe it's time for them to pAAss on into purgAAtory.
Don't forget that a routing on WN from New York to London might look like this, since they have traditionally used point-to-point flying: JFK-YAW-GOH-RKV-DUB-LTN.
I suppose you think the only way to get from BWI to LAX on WN is to make at least three stops?
For AA to be profitable, yep, and I don't think anyone here disputes that.
We're just asking for honest price presentation. If they cAAn't get profitable without the first price presented being bait-and-switch for half the plane, maybe it's time for them to pAAss on into purgAAtory.
I dispute that it has to go up signifigantly anf stay up - rather AA needs to make changes to prevent this situation from happening again and scrape by until they get it all sorted out. Also, their level of service needs to skyrocket if they intend not to fold.
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Originally Posted by brp
They reduced prices and stopped serving food in Y; those that want food can buy it. They eliminated drinks in Y on international flights; those that want a drink can buy one. They added a fee for the second bag; want to check two bags- pay for it. This is just the same philosophy. If I don't check a bag, why should I pay for yours (you, in the general sense ).
I love your creative thinking...
On a short connection I actually don't need a seat. I can stand. It would be great if I didn't have to pay for a seat. I also don't need the lavatory, reading lights, flight attendants, nor the co-pilot etc.
Maybe the boarding card could have a rfid chip attached to it, linked to my ryAAn AAirlines disAAdvantage account?
Also, their level of service needs to skyrocket if they intend not to fold.
I disagree here. I think that the level of service on most (all?) domestic carriers has dropped to a new reality, and these airlines can stay in business with this reduced level. Higher service levels mean more costs, and we've demonstrated that, by and large, we're not willing to pay for that.
On a short connection I actually don't need a seat. I can stand. It would be great if I didn't have to pay for a seat. I also don't need the lavatory, reading lights, flight attendants, nor the co-pilot etc.
This has been said in response already, almost verbatim. Probably hasn't been a new idea in this thread for over 200 posts (and I'm as guilty as the next person ). Carry on repeating yourselves y'all. I'm outta here.
I disagree here. I think that the level of service on most (all?) domestic carriers has dropped to a new reality, and these airlines can stay in business with this reduced level. Higher service levels mean more costs, and we've demonstrated that, by and large, we're not willing to pay for that.
Yet the only consistently profitable airline in the US has not made any significant cuts in service except to start charging for the third checked bag.
Yet the only consistently profitable airline in the US has not made any significant cuts in service except to start charging for the third checked bag.
Not entirely true - while not a service cut per se, there was the implementation of capacity controls on RR tickets.
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I suppose you think the only way to get from BWI to LAX on WN is to make at least three stops?
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