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Old Jan 3, 08, 5:44 am   #1
 
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E Class on BA showing as World Traveller Plus ?

Hi - have just booked LHR - HKG - ICN RT - asked the agent for World Traveller Plus and the ticket has issued in E class - the partner page tells me that E class is a deep discount economy ticket that will only get 25% mileage and 50% point accrual - how can this be for a 3000 euro ticket ?

The agent tells me that BA changed E class to WTP in November but AA are still showing it as Discount economy ?

Need help quickly as ticket has to issue this afternoon.
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Old Jan 3, 08, 6:15 am   #2
 
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Panic over - found this on the BA forum.....


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Well, it's official now on ba.com
The new classes (R & E) are eligible for Tier Points and Cabin Bonus mileage.

Travel class - Fare class
FIRST F or A
Club Europe & Club World (Business class) J, C, D, R or I
World Traveller Plus W, E or T
Euro Traveller & World Traveller Y, B or H
UK Domestic J, C, D, I, Y, B or H




I also have a verbal confirmation from the Dublin EXP desk that it can be manually changed if it doesn't post as WTP - is this verbal promise any good ...will they backtrack ?

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Old Jan 3, 08, 7:08 am   #3
 
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Panic over - found this on the BA forum.....


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Well, it's official now on ba.com
The new classes (R & E) are eligible for Tier Points and Cabin Bonus mileage.

Travel class - Fare class
FIRST F or A
Club Europe & Club World (Business class) J, C, D, R or I
World Traveller Plus W, E or T
Euro Traveller & World Traveller Y, B or H
UK Domestic J, C, D, I, Y, B or H




I also have a verbal confirmation from the Dublin EXP desk that it can be manually changed if it doesn't post as WTP - is this verbal promise any good ...will they backtrack ?

Just because BA shows the fare as an eligible for tier points it doesn't mean that BA will give you full AA mileage. It's up to BA to inform AA, and perhaps they did, and AA.com has not been updated, but if they didn't, then you will only get 25% mileage. It's BA decision as to how many AA miles you get, not AA's. They are the ones who pay for the miles. Also, effective March 1, 2008, British Airways flights no longer earn elite status bonus miles.
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Old Jan 3, 08, 7:19 am   #4
 
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Took long enough for BA to do this (further granularity of WT+). BA T-fares were probably the only "reasonable" fares for leisure travellers to get, in that they often cost less than H, but accrued both full mileage, and also more Tier Points. And for AA members, 1.5 EQP.

Of course, JL's program rated T as discount economy instead of premium.
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Old Jan 3, 08, 10:03 am   #5
 
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Just because BA shows the fare as an eligible for tier points it doesn't mean that BA will give you full AA mileage. It's up to BA to inform AA, and perhaps they did, and AA.com has not been updated, but if they didn't, then you will only get 25% mileage. It's BA decision as to how many AA miles you get, not AA's. They are the ones who pay for the miles. Also, effective March 1, 2008, British Airways flights no longer earn elite status bonus miles.

That is my fear - I called the EXP desk and they said if it was WTP then it would qualify for 110% mileage and 150% EQP. My travel agent got a different person at AA to say the same thing but neither could email the confirmation.

Am I looking at a bunfight with them to get these miles recorded?

Thanks for the heads up on the March 1 date - have a DUB - PVG on the 16th - guess it will have to be CX from now on that run.
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Old Jan 3, 08, 10:08 am   #6
 
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That is my fear - I called the EXP desk and they said if it was WTP then it would qualify for 110% mileage and 150% EQP. My travel agent got a different person at AA to say the same thing but neither could email the confirmation.

Am I looking at a bunfight with them to get these miles recorded?
did you actually ask about E fare or just a general question about WTP?
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Old Jan 3, 08, 11:30 am   #7
 
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No - I specifically asked about the E class - they got onto the BA Oneworld desk...left me onhold 10 mins and then came back to verbally confirm it was a WTP fare and would qualify - but you know how these things are easily denied.
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Old Jan 3, 08, 1:39 pm   #8
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No - I specifically asked about the E class - they got onto the BA Oneworld desk...left me onhold 10 mins and then came back to verbally confirm it was a WTP fare and would qualify - but you know how these things are easily denied.
E is now a World Traveller Plus fare, however if AA still lists E class in the mileage earning for BA as a 25% mileage earning fare when you travel, I expect that 25% is what you will get.

Maybe by the time you travel, E will have moved to being an eligable WT+ fare, however atm it is not listed as being one

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Old Apr 13, 08, 8:23 pm   #9
 
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BA fare codes on AA -- is aa.com correct? (consolidated)

Checking out http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?...ishAirways.jsp for the list of which BA bucket gets full credit, I see the following:

Class of Service Purchased Fares**
Booked In: Mileage Accrual Percentage
Elite Qualifying Points Per Mile Earned

First Class A, F 100% + 50% bonus 1.50
Business Class C, D, I, J*** 100% + 25% bonus 1.50
World Traveller Plus T, W 100% + 10% 1.50
Full Fare Economy Class B, Y 100% 1.50
Economy Class H 100% 1.00
Discount Economy Class K, L, M, N, O, R 25% 1.00
Discount Economy Class E†, G, Q, S, V 25% .50


However, looking at EF, I see that E is WT+ and both I & R book into Business.

Is AA.com correct on how these are credited? thx.
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Old Apr 13, 08, 11:49 pm   #10
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Not sure where you're seeing that on EF, but their Class Codes for BA are showing E as 'Shuttle Service' and R as 'Club Exc in UK'.
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Old Apr 14, 08, 12:31 am   #11
 
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Not sure where you're seeing that on EF, but their Class Codes for BA are showing E as 'Shuttle Service' and R as 'Club Exc in UK'.
He didn't qoute EF, but the AA partner page for BA
http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?...ishAirways.jsp
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Old Apr 14, 08, 1:58 pm   #12
 
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Not sure where you're seeing that on EF, but their Class Codes for BA are showing E as 'Shuttle Service' and R as 'Club Exc in UK'.
I've got a BA booking; when I view "Fares from LHR to XXX on BA" page, E is a WT+ fare and I & R are both Club World.

I see what you see when I click on the fare code on the search results though.

This could be why there's the info that AA has...but before I spend to buy up to a WT+ fare, I want the miles!
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Old Apr 14, 08, 2:36 pm   #13
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I've got a BA booking; when I view "Fares from LHR to XXX on BA" page, E is a WT+ fare and I & R are both Club World.

I see what you see when I click on the fare code on the search results though.

This could be why there's the info that AA has...but before I spend to buy up to a WT+ fare, I want the miles!
It'd be helpful to know your exact parameters - I searched EF Fare Information for a few LHR-JFK dates, but only see W as World Traveler Plus fares. Or are you saying you're seeing this somewhere on BA.com?

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He didn't qoute EF, but the AA partner page for BA
http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?...ishAirways.jsp
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However, looking at EF, I see that E is WT+ and both I & R book into Business.
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Old Apr 14, 08, 2:50 pm   #14
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Is AA.com correct on how these are credited? thx.
No, that info is out-of-date: http://flyerguide.com/wiki/index.php...g_Classes_(BA)
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Old Apr 14, 08, 2:58 pm   #15
 
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It'd be helpful to know your exact parameters - I searched EF Fare Information for a few LHR-JFK dates, but only see W as World Traveler Plus fares. Or are you saying you're seeing this somewhere on BA.com?
E & T are definitely both WT+ fares. How far in the future did you look? My first guess is EF didn't show you the E & T bucket fares because both have an Advance Purchase requirement of 21 days on some routes, or alternatively if you only search one-way I think both E & T are for round trips.
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