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Originally Posted by aamilesslave
I hate loose miles
If for a period of 18 months I was not traveling at all .. I would at least purchase something from an on-line store that gave me miles... or donate to USO which gives me miles .. or something.
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Most people are not active members of all FF programs in which they carry a balance.
Most certainly. I have orphaned miles on nearly every domestic airline, from 1,500 on UA to 24k on CO.
I just thank Randy for mileagemanager.com which reminds me when it's time to use/update or lose 'em.
I agree with you BTW, it's not really fair at all in my opinion. I think 5 years or so is more fair. Why should they expire so fast, you've earned them. But for those of us who do pay close attention to such things, as mentioned, it's hard to see a real downside besides the occasional small purchase or whatever to keep an account active.
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1. A longer period is more customer-friendly.
2. It's easier to remember two years from a date than 18 months.
3. The 24-month period means that the inevitable "My miles are expiring" threads would be delayed by 6 months.
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Originally Posted by drtdk
1. A longer period is more customer-friendly.
2. It's easier to remember two years from a date than 18 months.
3. The 24-month period means that the inevitable "My miles are expiring" threads would be delayed by 6 months.
Your making a joke right?
Frequent flyer programs are not credit card point programs. The miles are given as an incentive and subsequently, an award for flying the airline. The elite levels (which so many people seem to think they deserve just for breathing!) are further rewards.
There will always be those people who rarely participate and complain the loudest when they're accounts show zero. They don't opt in to recieve summaries, they don't call and check on their accounts. and they don't pay attention to they're mileage accrual or expiration.
Simply, iff you follow the rules and perform the required actions to keep your account current, a year and a half should be nothing to you.
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Originally Posted by edwin_p_morales
Most certainly. I have orphaned miles on nearly every domestic airline, from 1,500 on UA to 24k on CO.
I just thank Randy for mileagemanager.com which reminds me when it's time to use/update or lose 'em.
I agree with you BTW, it's not really fair at all in my opinion. I think 5 years or so is more fair. Why should they expire so fast, you've earned them. But for those of us who do pay close attention to such things, as mentioned, it's hard to see a real downside besides the occasional small purchase or whatever to keep an account active.
Um..same answer here FREQUENT FLYER. What's frequent about five years?
Frequent flyer programs are not credit card point programs. The miles are given as an incentive and subsequently, an award for flying the airline. The elite levels (which so many people seem to think they deserve just for breathing!) are further rewards.
There will always be those people who rarely participate and complain the loudest when they're accounts show zero. They don't opt in to recieve summaries, they don't call and check on their accounts. and they don't pay attention to they're mileage accrual or expiration.
Simply, iff you follow the rules and perform the required actions to keep your account current, a year and a half should be nothing to you.
First, I think you meant you're, and not your. At least I hope so.
As you say, it's an incentive to fly the airline. I flew; they gave me something. 18 months from now I've still flown that flight- why should they take away something I earned flying that flight? Did I now not fly that flight and give them money
I, personally, have no problem with the expiration. 18 months, 12 months, 6 months. It would all work for me, and most people here. That's not the issue. The discussion is about people who earned these things, then lost them. Academic discussion since none of us will lose these. Certainly not something to get in a huff over, IMO.
Um..same answer here FREQUENT FLYER. What's frequent about five years?
Huh? Which side of the argument are you responding to?
I don't think it's fair that miles expire quickly. People earn them from flying and should have a couple years. That's just a personal opinion - there's not some overarching moral issue, I just think when people earn miles it's only fair that they don't get taken away 18 months later. People can spend 18 months doing many things, in the peace corps, deployed in the army, whatever. That doesn't seem fair to me, personally.
That said, for those of us that do fly frequently and check program levels obsessively there's no real downside to the change, and a possible upside.
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The one thing that pisses me off about these shortened expiration times is how all of the airlines are making them retroactive. Currently my AAdvantage summary has something that says, "Miles with Expiration Deferred Through 5/17/10." Let's say I don't have any activity between now and Dec 15. When exactly will it change to saying expiration deferred through 11/17/08?
And more pertinently, let's say my last activity was 6/15/06 instead. Then presumably my expiration date on AA.com would currently state 6/15/09. So at some point over the next 6 months, AA is going to have to say, oops, sorry, we lied to you. Your expiration date is now 12/15/07. (or perhaps they'll just let 12/15/07 slip by--caveat emptor) And if I checked it say right now and didn't know about the upcoming change, I might not look at my account for another year since AA just told me it was good for another 2 years.
Incidentally, I also find it quite curious how worked up the OP is over this issue, almost as if he/she has a personal stake in this change.
People can spend 18 months doing many things, in the peace corps, deployed in the army, whatever. That doesn't seem fair to me, personally.
This is a very good point. Under the old guidelines, someone who goes into the military for two years would have kept their miles. Under the new guideline, they lose 'em.
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Originally Posted by brp
As you say, it's an incentive to fly the airline. I flew; they gave me something. 18 months from now I've still flown that flight- why should they take away something I earned flying that flight? Did I now not fly that flight and give them money
Isn't this the same thing as a rebate or discount coupon for next purchase included with your item?
Both of the above have expiration dates. You paid for your purchase, received the rebate or discount coupon, but if you don't use it by certain date, sorry......
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Originally Posted by brp
First, I think you meant you're, and not your. At least I hope so.
As you say, it's an incentive to fly the airline. I flew; they gave me something. 18 months from now I've still flown that flight- why should they take away something I earned flying that flight? Did I now not fly that flight and give them money
I, personally, have no problem with the expiration. 18 months, 12 months, 6 months. It would all work for me, and most people here. That's not the issue. The discussion is about people who earned these things, then lost them. Academic discussion since none of us will lose these. Certainly not something to get in a huff over, IMO.
Cheers.
So what you are saying is your just posting to argue. Most people that earn something, pay attention to where that *thing* that is earned is.
